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<h1>- DRAFT -</h1>
<h1>Multimedia Semantics XG - Telecon 14-09-2006</h1>
<h2>14 Sep 2006</h2>
<p><a href=
'http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Sep/0007.html'>
Agenda</a></p>
<p>See also: <a href="http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-irc">IRC
log</a></p>
<h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>
<div class="intro">
<dl>
<dt>Present</dt>
<dd>Giovanni, Chris, Thomas, George, Paola, Massimo,
Patricia, Ovidio, Roberto_Ellero, Raphael, Jacco, Michael,
Melli, Stamatia, Pasquale_(by_IRC)</dd>
<dt>Regrets</dt>
<dd>Ioannis, Susanne, Jeff, Thierry, Paul</dd>
<dt>Chair</dt>
<dd>Raphael</dd>
<dt>Scribe</dt>
<dd>Jacco</dd>
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<h2>Contents</h2>
<ul>
<li>
<a href="#agenda">Topics</a>
<ol>
<li><a href="#item01">ADMIN</a></li>
<li><a href="#item02">LIAISON</a></li>
<li><a href="#item03">XG UPDATES</a></li>
<li><a href="#item04">3.1 Bio-medical Image Use case:
(Melliyal)</a></li>
<li><a href="#item05">3.2 Music Use case: (Giovanni,
Christian, Thierry)</a></li>
<li><a href="#item06">3.3 News Use case: (Raphael, Thierry,
IPTC)</a></li>
<li><a href="#item07">3.4 Media Production Use case:
(Vassilis)</a></li>
<li><a href="#item08">3.5 MPEG-7 metadata interoperability
Use case: (Stamatia, Yiannis,</a></li>
<li><a href="#item09">3.6 Semantics from Multimedia
Authoring Use case: (Susanne)</a></li>
<li><a href="#item10">3.7 Algorithm representation Use
case: (Massimo, Patrizia, Ovidio)</a></li>
<li><a href="#item11">3.8 Low level feature extraction Use
case: (Ioannis, Vasileios ...</a></li>
<li><a href="#item12">4. Future Metings</a></li>
<li><a href="#item13">AOB</a></li>
</ol>
</li>
<li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
</ul>
<hr />
<div class="meeting">
<p class='phone'> </p>
<p class='phone'>pointer</p>
<p class='phone'>rssagent, pointer</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>> hi michael</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> hello there</p>
<p class='phone'>topic 1. ADMIN</p>
<h3 id="item01">ADMIN</h3>
<p class='irc'><<cite>alessio</cite>> hi all</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> re all</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>christian</cite>> Hi, for some
reason the cnference code does not work...</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>stamatia</cite>> hi all</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>stamatia</cite>> i'm having some
problmes with the phone connection, i hope to join you soon</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>rellero_</cite>> 04 01Zakim,
[IPcaller is Roberto_Ellero</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>OS</cite>> hi all from Ovidio,
Massimo & Patrizia</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>rellero_</cite>> Hi to all</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> i am still not a
zakim geek clearly</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>christian</cite>> your not</p>
<p class='phone'>chris, we also tried the conference code in
vain earlier, but now it works. Could you try again?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> chris, type
slowly</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>christian</cite>> I'm trying...but
I cannt talk with the operator as well :-)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Melli</cite>> I will be leaving in
25 minutes or so</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>rellero_</cite>> hi pasquale</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>pasquale</cite>> hi roberto and
all; sorry, but i can only irc today</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>stamatia</cite>> i don't know abou
tyou but i can harldy hear you</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chalaschek</cite>> the echo is
really bad</p>
<p class='phone'>Chairs welcomes Paola</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> clap clap</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chalaschek</cite>> great</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>christian</cite>> :-)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>rellero_</cite>> ok</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> agree</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>anadiotis</cite>> agree</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Thomas</cite>> agree</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chalaschek</cite>> agree</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>stamatia</cite>> agree</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>christian</cite>> agree</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>OS</cite>> agree</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> yay for the
current minutes</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>rellero_</cite>> agree</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chalaschek</cite>> agree</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> agree</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>anadiotis</cite>> ok</p>
<p class='phone'>PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 20 July
2006 telecon:</p>
<p class='phone'><a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html:">http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html:</a>
ACCEPTED</p>
<p class='phone'>PROPOSED next telecon 14 September 2006:
ACCEPTED</p>
<h3 id="item02">LIAISON</h3>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> jrvosse: next
telcon on 28 Sep ...</p><a name="action01" id="action01"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Yannis to report back to the group
about the outcome of the [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>
<p class='phone'>MPEG7 liason attempts after a visit of ITI in
Austria [recorded in</p>
<p class='phone'><a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action01</a>]:
CONTINUED</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>christian</cite>> zakim. ipcaller
is christian</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> yup .. we are
also asking people who we consider very knowledgable on the
topic to join but w3c membership is an issue for many</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Vassilis:</cite> don't think new members
were found</p>
<p class='phone'>"Image annotation on the Semantic Web" is
transfered to the XG, will not be published by SWBPD WG</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> i think it sounds
good ideed</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> work more</p>
<p class='phone'>Chair asks opinion about status draft</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Vassilis:</cite> member should first
read the doc</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chalaschek</cite>> where is the
latest version (ie, url etc.)?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>anadiotis</cite>> i have not read
the latest version - i will do so and provide feedback</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> indeed, I want to assign
reviewers from the XG</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>rellero_</cite>> sorry, my line was
out and now passcode is not valid, i follow in irc</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> is there any way
to quickly have a delta from the sept 1 version? its not a wiki
page unfortunately</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>christian</cite>> rellero, you can
ask for the operator (*0) and then ask to join</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>rellero_</cite>> i try</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>rellero_</cite>> but i connect with
skype</p><a name="action02" id="action02"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Ovidio, Stamatia to review <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/MM/image_annotation.html">
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/MM/image_annotation.html</a>
before mid October teleconf [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action02</a>]</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Vassilis:</cite> if we could add things,
it would be nice, but it should be ok as is</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> ok thanks</p>
<h3 id="item03">XG UPDATES</h3><a name="action03" id=
"action03"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> All to make sure you have your
homepage on the XG wiki [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action03</a>]</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Michael:</cite> in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Ontological_Commitments">
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Ontological_Commitments</a>
I tried to step back for a metaview, using three levels<br />
... is this worth doing?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> Metalevel seems to apply
to every use case</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jacco:</cite> What about the link
between the essence and domain?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Michael:</cite> I'm not sure, feel free
to add stuff</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Vassilis:</cite> Apart from the use
cases we also have to have the solutions...<br />
... and how are these solutions related?<br />
... how different are they?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> I agree, we should start
writing solutions down and discuss them</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Vassilis:</cite> this means there is
time pressure, we have to hurry and put everything as soon as
possible</p>
<h3 id="item04">3.1 Bio-medical Image Use case: (Melliyal)</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>Melli:</cite> I am looking for more
members to join in<br />
... I have not made much progress in the example images and
metadata<br />
... can I setup a web demo?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> zakin, unmute
me</p><a name="action04" id="action04"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Melli to set up a web demo for 28
September teleconf [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action04</a>]</p>
<h3 id="item05">3.2 Music Use case: (Giovanni, Christian,
Thierry)</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>Giovanni:</cite> too many ways to solve
things, this is not good</p>
<p class='phone'>We added lyrics as metadata in the use
case</p>
<p class='phone'>We also suggest ways to use the semantic web
to collect more metadata</p>
<p class='phone'>Use many RDF channels to collect metadata</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Giovanni:</cite> I got several emails
about this use case, very productive<br />
... I will cc as much as possible</p>
<p class='phone'>We should have someone from UPF in
Barcelona</p><a name="action05" id="action05"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Chairs to contact UPF [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action05</a>]</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Giovanni:</cite> still looking forward
to get comments (is this still realistic)</p><a name="action06"
id="action06"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> George and Raphael to review music use
case by next teleconf [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action06</a>]</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Vassilis:</cite> When do you expect
providing the solution?</p>
<p class='phone'>We will provide a solution, but it may be too
specific or not fully realistic</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> Giovanni, don't forget
the XG is about metadata interoperability</p>
<h3 id="item06">3.3 News Use case: (Raphael, Thierry,
IPTC)</h3>
<p class='irc'><<cite>christian</cite>> kakim, mute
me</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>christian</cite>> zakim mute me</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> we did not made much
progress, we will meet with IPTC next week</p>
<h3 id="item07">3.4 Media Production Use case: (Vassilis)</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>Vassilis:</cite> I would like to drop
this, will help Stamatia's use case instead</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Chris:</cite> in this case I would like
to join the news use case</p>
<p class='phone'>No objections</p>
<h3 id="item08">3.5 MPEG-7 metadata interoperability Use case:
(Stamatia, Yiannis,</h3>
<p class='phone'>Michael)</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Stamatia:</cite> Not much progress</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Vassilis:</cite> we will have a separate
teleconf now we have a bigger team</p><a name="action07" id=
"action07"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Vassilis et al to inform group by mail
about the time table for this use case [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action07</a>]</p>
<h3 id="item09">3.6 Semantics from Multimedia Authoring Use
case: (Susanne)</h3>
<p class='phone'>and Tagging Use case: (George, Susanne,
Thomas)</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>George:</cite> just made a major
update</p>
<p class='phone'>Is het a good idea to have a common structure
to all use cases?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>>
helemal</p><a name="action08" id="action08"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Vassilis to prepare structure for all
use cases by next Monday [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action08</a>]</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>George:</cite> we added intro and
references, Thomas contributed to the motivating scenario<br />
... there is already a section about the possible solutions, we
will continue to work on that</p>
<h3 id="item10">3.7 Algorithm representation Use case:
(Massimo, Patrizia, Ovidio)</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>Patrizia:</cite> Not much time during
the summer, but we are thinking about more focus, it is now too
vague</p>
<p class='phone'>Will focus more on the image annotation
aspects</p>
<p class='phone'>Others are welcome to join</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> what is the plan from
know? To focus on representing image analysis alghoritms?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Patrizia:</cite> Yes<br />
... There is a lot of similarities among the the use
cases</p><a name="action09" id="action09"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Patrizia and Massimo: report on
similarities among use cases [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action09">http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action09</a>]</p><a name="action10"
id="action10"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Michael and Stamatia to review tagging
use case for next teleconf [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action10">http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action10</a>]</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> I think the other use
cases are not mature enough to review</p>
<h3 id="item11">3.8 Low level feature extraction Use case:
(Ioannis, Vasileios ...</h3>
<p class='phone'>addition by Susanne)</p>
<p class='phone'>Deferred to next meeting</p>
<h3 id="item12">4. Future Metings</h3>
<p class='phone'>See <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Sep/0006.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Sep/0006.html</a></p>
<p class='phone'>We will have a phone and IRC connection during
the next f2f meeting coloacted with SAMT</p><a name="action11"
id="action11"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> chairs to set up questionnaire before
next teleconf [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action11">http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action11</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> i'm fine</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Thomas</cite>> bye</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> bye</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> bye bye</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>christian</cite>> bye all</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>anadiotis</cite>> bye everyone</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>OS</cite>> by</p>
<h3 id="item13">AOB</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>Paola:</cite> There is also meeting of
the mm ontology harmonisation group, everybody from this group
is welcome</p>
<p class='phone'>Will send invitation later</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>rellero_</cite>> bye</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> exit</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> quit</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>pasquale</cite>> bye all, ciao</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> Scribe: Jacco</p>
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<h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> All to make sure
you have your homepage on the XG wiki [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action03</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Chairs to contact
UPF [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action05</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> chairs to set up
questionnaire before next teleconf [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action11">http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action11</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> George and
Raphael to review music use case by next teleconf [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action06</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Melli to set up a
web demo for 28 September teleconf [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action04</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Michael and
Stamatia to review tagging use case for next teleconf [recorded
in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action10">http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action10</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Ovidio, Stamatia
to review <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/MM/image_annotation.html">
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/MM/image_annotation.html</a>
before mid October teleconf [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action02</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Patrizia and
Massimo: report on similarities among use cases [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action09">http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action09</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Vassilis et al to
inform group by mail about the time table for this use case
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action07</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Vassilis to
prepare structure for all use cases by next Monday [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action08</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Yannis to report
back to the group about the outcome of the [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-mmsem-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br />
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Agenda: <a href=
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