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  <h1>- DRAFT -</h1>

  <h1>Social Web Incubator Group Teleconference</h1>

  <h2>18 Nov 2009</h2>

  <p>See also: <a href="http://www.w3.org/2009/11/18-swxg-irc">IRC
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  <h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>

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    <dl>
      <dt>Present</dt>

      <dd>DKA, petef, tinkster, tpa, claudio, +49.238.aaaa,
      FabGandon, martin, pchampin, melvster</dd>

      <dt>Regrets</dt>

      <dt>Chair</dt>

      <dd>DKA</dd>

      <dt>Scribe</dt>

      <dd>Claudio</dd>
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  <h2>Contents</h2>

  <ul>
    <li>
      <a href="#agenda">Topics</a>

      <ol>
        <li><a href="#item01">approval of last meeting
        minutes</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item02">final report</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item03">invited experts</a></li>
      </ol>
    </li>

    <li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
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    <p class='phone'>&nbsp;</p>

    <p class='phone'>&nbsp;</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Date: 18 November
    2009</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>DKA</cite>&gt; MacTed you are down as
    scribe - are you happy about that / planning to join us</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>DKA</cite>&gt; ?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>DKA</cite>&gt; Scribe: Claudio</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>DKA</cite>&gt; ScribeNick: claudio</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tinkster</cite>&gt; +1</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>DKA</cite>&gt; <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2009/11/11-swxg-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2009/11/11-swxg-minutes.html</a></p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>DKA</cite>&gt; So resolved.</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>DKA</cite>&gt; +1</p>

    <h3 id="item01">approval of last meeting minutes</h3>

    <p class='phone'>approved</p>

    <p class='phone'>DKA topic: review of user stories</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>DKA</cite>&gt; <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/UserStories">http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/UserStories</a></p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>DKA:</cite> let's try to focus on
    portability and provenance and context awareness user
    stories</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Fabian:</cite> propose to focus on the
    ones we have champions for...<br />
    ... for example we should expand the business related user
    stories, boeing can help</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>DKA</cite>&gt; Stories - from a
    Developer's standpoint, from a User's standpoint, ...</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>rreck</cite>&gt; i submitted our
    provenance usecases to the provenance XG</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>DKA</cite>&gt; Something for a
    "non-believer"</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>DKA</cite>&gt; Multi-cultural
    aspect.</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>tpa:</cite> different scenarios on the
    identified areas addressed through the said developer and user
    viewpoints</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>DKA</cite>&gt; ACTION tpa to develop 3
    outlines - story 1, story 2, story 3 - and relate to existing
    user stories.</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Sorry, couldn't
    find user - tpa</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tpa</cite>&gt; ACTION timanglade to
    develop 3 outlines - story 1, story 2, story 3 - and relate to
    existing user stories.</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Sorry, couldn't
    find user - timanglade</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tpa</cite>&gt; ACTION tanglade to
    develop 3 outlines - story 1, story 2, story 3 - and relate to
    existing user stories.</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-107
    - Develop 3 outlines - story 1, story 2, story 3 - and relate
    to existing user stories. [on Tim Anglade - due
    2009-11-25].</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>DKA:</cite> we should target more
    outreach around this topic</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>DKA</cite>&gt; Should the final report
    follow a certain structure...?</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>DKA:</cite> the user stories document
    shouldn't be constrained to a given structure<br />
    ... wouldn't worry about giving it a particular structure..</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>DKA</cite>&gt; "User Narratives"</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>tpa:</cite> propose to create a wiki
    page to capture business and developing narratives</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>DKA</cite>&gt; "Narratives" page -
    with "User Narrative"; "Developer Narrative"; "Business
    Narrative"</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>DKA</cite>&gt; With deep links into
    the user stories page.</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>DKA:</cite> you could flash out the
    proposed outlines by the next week</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>DKA</cite>&gt; Adam anything to tell
    us about on your action regarding use case for enterprise
    social network?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tpa</cite>&gt; Adam, would you be
    available to brainstorm on Narratives?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Adam</cite>&gt; no sir, no updates</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Adam</cite>&gt; tpa, i would be happy
    to ... have a specific time in mind?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>danbri</cite>&gt; (folks, i'll have to
    sit out this call... sorry all, regrets!)</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>tpa:</cite> ok to flash outlines out but
    require some inputs from the XG</p>

    <h3 id="item02">final report</h3>

    <p class='phone'><cite>DKA:</cite> do we need an editor?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>petef</cite>&gt; Can you remind me
    what the timeframe for delivery of the final report is?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tpa</cite>&gt; Adam =&gt; see private
    messages</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tinkster</cite>&gt; Sorry, got to
    go.</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>DKA:</cite> of course we need
    contributors first</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>DKA</cite>&gt; <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/OneLiners">http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/OneLiners</a></p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>DKA:</cite> we should catalogue existing
    initiatives in the area</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>petef</cite>&gt; +q</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>DKA:</cite> we need to collect and
    organize this material<br />
    ... final report is expected for march</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>melvster</cite>&gt; I would be happy
    to review one liners to the extent of my knowledge, tho perhaps
    this is more or a two person action?</p>

    <h3 id="item03">invited experts</h3>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>DKA</cite>&gt; Maybe we can have Chris
    M for the 2nd of December...</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>DKA</cite>&gt; PeteF to confirm.</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>melvster</cite>&gt; bbc was mischa -
    he sent regrets</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>DKA:</cite> any other ideas?<br />
    ... AOB?<br />
    ... let's rejoin next week</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>petef</cite>&gt; Bye everyone</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>melvster</cite>&gt; bye</p>

    <p class='phone'>bye</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>DKA</cite>&gt; trackbot, make
    minutes</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Sorry, DKA, I
    don't understand 'trackbot, make minutes'. Please refer to
    <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc">http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc</a>
    for help</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>DKA</cite>&gt; thanks claudio!</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>DKA</cite>&gt; trackbot, make
    minutes</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Sorry, DKA, I
    don't understand 'trackbot, make minutes'. Please refer to
    <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc">http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc</a>
    for help</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>DKA</cite>&gt; trackbot, end
    meeting</p>
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  <h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
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