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<h1>Multimedia Semantics XG - Telecon 22-06-2006</h1>
<h2>22 Jun 2006</h2>
<p><a href=
'http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Jun/0006.html'>
Agenda</a></p>
<p>See also: <a href="http://www.w3.org/2006/06/22-mmsem-irc">IRC
log</a></p>
<h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>
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<dl>
<dt>Present</dt>
<dd>Jeff Pan, Raphael, Thomas, Chris Halaschek,, Melliyal Annamalai, Pasquale Popolizio,
Patrizia Asirelli, Yiannis Avrithis, Giovanni Tummarello, Paul Buitelar, Vassilis Tzouvaras, Giorgos Stamou,
Jacco (IRC), Thristo (IRC), Alessio Cartocci (IRC), Ioannis Pratika (IRC), Massimo Martinelli (IRC)</dd>
<dt>Regrets</dt>
<dd>Susanne Boll, Roberto Ellero, George Anadiotis</dd>
<dt>Chair</dt>
<dd>Jeff</dd>
<dt>Scribe</dt>
<dd>Raphael</dd>
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<h2>Contents</h2>
<ul>
<li>
<a href="#agenda">Topics</a>
<ol>
<li><a href="#item01">1. Admin</a></li>
<li><a href="#item02">2. XG Updates</a></li>
<li><a href="#item03">3. LIAISON SWBPD</a></li>
<li><a href="#item04">4. Face 2 Face</a></li>
<li><a href="#item05">5. AOB</a></li>
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</li>
<li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
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<p class='phone'> </p>
<p class='phone'> </p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> Scribe: raphael</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> ScribeNick:
raphael</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>JeffP</cite>> Hi Raphael</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>pasquale</cite>> hi all from
pasquale</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>alessio</cite>> hi all</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>JeffP</cite>> Hi pasquale</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> Meeting: Multimedia
Semantics XG - Telecon 22-06-2006</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> Chair: Jeff</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> ScribeNick:
raphael</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> Scribe: raphael</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> Agenda: <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Jun/0006.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Jun/0006.html</a></p>
<p class='phone'>could you please all join us on the phone
?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>alessio</cite>> i'm sorry... today
i can't use the bridge</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>patriziaasirelli</cite>> hi all,
I'm Patrizia Asirelli and with me there is also Massimo
Martinelli</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>iavr</cite>> the name is Yannis,
not Yiannis :-)</p>
<h3 id="item01">1. Admin</h3>
<p class='irc'><<cite>pasquale</cite>> regrets also
roberto ellero</p>
<p class='phone'>Agenda approved</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> hello</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> :-)</p>
<p class='phone'>Overall goal of this XG: give advice to the
W3C, what to do with the multimedia topic in general ? WG ?
Recommendation Track ?</p>
<h3 id="item02">2. XG Updates</h3>
<p class='phone'>Self presentation!</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> CWI, Amsterdam, interest
in multimedia ontologies, aligning ontologies, interoperability
problems with several multimedia vocabularies</p>
<p class='phone'>Jeff Z. Pan, lecturer in University of
Aberden, interest in formal logic, RDF</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>ipratika</cite>> I’m Ioannis
Pratikakis, working as a Research Scientist at the Institute of
Informatics and Telecommunications of the NCSR
“Demokritos”, Athens, Greece. My research interests
include content-based multimedia search and retrieval as well
as knowledge-driven multimedia analysis concerning modalities
like images, video and 3D graphics.</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> is this
logged/wikied?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>jacco</cite>> yes, this is
logged</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Thomas:</cite> University of Koblenz,
DE, work in aceMedia, XMedia, and K-Space. Liaison work for
Koblenz between the XG and these projects</p>
<p class='phone'>K-Space member of W3C from July 1st
officially</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Vassilis:</cite> NTUA, Greece. Interest:
multimedia semantics, fuzzy description logics</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Giorgos:</cite> knowledge technologies
for multimedia, uncertainty</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Chris:</cite> University of Maryland,
US. Interest: image annotation using ontologies</p>
<p class='phone'>Melliyal, Oracle, US. Interest: work on
semantics, how semantics can be used for better search of media
items, interoperability of metadata</p>
<p class='phone'>Pasquale, Napoli, Italy, EU: Web accessible
specialist, maintain the Italian Semantic Web portal</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> what is the
order? web page ? which web page? :-) such a newbie.. sorry</p>
<p class='phone'>Patrizia, CNR, Pisa, Italy: work in the MUSCLE
NoE</p>
<p class='phone'>Massimo, CNR, Pisa, Italy: MUSCLE project,
interest in ontologies and multimedia</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>alessio</cite>> I'm Alessio
Cartocci, an italian senior consultant in accessibility, web
standards and multimedia application. As IWA Italy member i
partecipate to the project "Webaccessibile". My research
interests are semantics, media streaming and distribution,
cross-links between standards, accessibility and cultural
projects.</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>alessio</cite>> :-)</p>
<p class='phone'>Yiannis, NTUA, Greece: image processing and
analysis; has been involved in several projects dealing with
multimedia and SW technologies (aceMedia, K-Space, MeSH,
XMedia); local organizer of the SAMT conference</p>
<p class='phone'>Giovanni, University of Ancona, Italy.
Interests: interoperability MPEG-7/RDF, Peer to Peer
technologies</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>thristo</cite>> ovviamente si</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>thristo</cite>> ops...</p>
<p class='phone'>Paul, DFKI, DE: represents Thierry and Stefan.
Expertise in linguistic technologies, connection between
linguistics descriptors and images descriptors and
ontologies</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>thristo</cite>> I'm Christian
Morbodoni from University of Ancona Italy, I'm doing my PhD and
I work with Giovanni, so I think He already said the important
things...</p>
<h3 id="item03">3. LIAISON SWBPD</h3>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> resources that
might be of interest to define our backgroup (Semedia) <a href=
"http://dbin.org">http://dbin.org</a> - Semantic Web rich
client featuring P2P for rdf annotations exchange <a href=
"http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpeg7audiodb">http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpeg7audiodb</a>
<a href=
"http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpeg7audioenc">http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpeg7audioenc</a>
Extraction and processing of MPEG-7 audio metadata</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>patriziaasirelli</cite>> we would
have to say that Ovidio Salvetti is in our group and he will
register as member as well</p>
<p class='phone'>Image Semantic on the Semantic Web: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/MM/image_annotation.html">
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/MM/image_annotation.html</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chalaschek</cite>> This is fine
with me.</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Melli</cite>> Yes.</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>pasquale</cite>> ok</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>patriziaasirelli</cite>> this is
fine for us</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>TastenTom</cite>> its fine, ok</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> ok</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>thristo</cite>> yup</p>
<p class='phone'>Accept ownership of the documents produced by
the SWBPD MM Task Force</p>
<p class='phone'>?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> where do i find a
definition of "accepting the ownership" ? :-)</p>
<p class='phone'>RESOLVED</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>JeffP</cite>> who is talking?</p>
<p class='phone'>Views / Expectations of this XG</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Thomas:</cite> representation of
multimedia metadata, different aspect of multimedia metadata,
multimedia ontologies (DOLCE, MPEG-7)</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Chris:</cite> following the work done in
the MM TF</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Melliyal:</cite> show practically how
semantics can be useful ! showcase, killer application</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> +1 for real
applications</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Pasquale:</cite> web accessibility
(combine knowledge) ... don't get the end :-(</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>pasquale</cite>> My desire: an
accessible Web more Semantic, and a Semantic Web more
accessible ;-)</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Patrizia:</cite> Retrieval of multimeia
content, inference</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Yiannis:</cite> automatic analysis,
automatic annotation of images, News Video (TrecVideo), many
vocabularies used</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Giovanni:</cite> real applications, real
use cases where semantics is needed in multmedia
applications</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Paul:</cite> automatic annotation (video
and images)</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Vassilis:</cite> continue the work of
the MM TF</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>VassilisTzouvaras</cite>> sorry my
line was droped</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>VassilisTzouvaras</cite>> but I
wanted to point the interoperability issue in the cultural
domain</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>VassilisTzouvaras</cite>> and the
multilinguality issue</p>
<p class='phone'>Rapahel & Jacco: use case, guidelines,
best practices for adding a semantic layer (RDF) on top of the
many existing multimedia standards, vocabularies, format</p>
<h3 id="item04">4. Face 2 Face</h3>
<p class='phone'>only 4 answers so far</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> Me and Christian
Morbidoni will be in Amsterdam, no matter if we can reach the
form or not :-) (we dont have the password)</p>
<p class='phone'>ok Giovanni, thanks</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>patriziaasirelli</cite>> I have
tried to register but I think I need to become a member
first?</p>
<p class='phone'>yes Patrizia, just you will come in Amsterdam
from Pisa ?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>TastenTom</cite>> i also don't have
an account yet but i am going to participate in the F2F
meeting!</p>
<p class='phone'>ok, thanks Tom !</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Melli</cite>> I apologize that I
will not be able to make it to this face-to-face meeting, I
will also fill the form.</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>patriziaasirelli</cite>> I intnd to
come, I an not 100% sure yet</p>
<p class='phone'>ok, thanks Melli, the next F2F will be
hopefully in US, more convenient for you :-)</p><a name=
"action01" id="action01"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Jeff, Raphael to propose the first
draft of the F2F meeting agenda [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/06/22-mmsem-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2006/06/22-mmsem-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>
<h3 id="item05">5. AOB</h3>
<p class='phone'>USE the PUBLIC mailling list !</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>ipratika</cite>> ipratika</p>
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<h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Jeff, Raphael to
propose the first draft of the F2F meeting agenda [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/06/22-mmsem-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2006/06/22-mmsem-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br />
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