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<p><a href="http://www.w3.org/">W3C</a> | <a
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<h1>W3C TAG meeting 7-9 June 2010 in London, UK, USA</h1>
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<p>Nearby: <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues">issues
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      <td align="left" valign="top">08:00-9:00</td>
      <td align="left" valign="top">Arrive &amp;
        Set up. Please have your computers and network connections set up
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	<li><a href="07-minutes.html#item01">Convene, review agenda</a></li>
	<li><a href="07-minutes.html#item02">Web Applications: Overview</a></li>
	<li><a href="07-minutes.html#item03">HTML / XML Unification</a></li>
	<li><a href="07-minutes.html#item04">Domain name persistence (workshop planning)</a></li>
	<li><a href="07-minutes.html#item05">Web Applications: Client-side state</a></li>
	<li><a href="07-minutes.html#item06">Web Applications: Security</a></li>


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      <td align="left" valign="top">09:00-09:30</td>
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          <li><a href="#Convene">Convene, review agenda</a></li>

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      <td align="left" valign="top">09:30-10:30</td>
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	       <li><a href="#WebApps">Web Applications: Overview</a></li>
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      <td align="left" valign="top">10:30-10:45</td>
      <td align="left" valign="top">Break (15 mins)</td>
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	       <li><a href="#xmlhtml">HTML / XML Unification</a> (session #1 of 2)</li>
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      <td align="left" valign="top">Lunch (75 mins)</td>
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      <td align="left" valign="top">13:15-15:00</td>
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          <li><a href="#persistence">Domain name persistence</li>
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      <td align="left" valign="top">Break (30 mins)</td>
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      <td align="left" valign="top">15:30-16:15</td>
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          <li><a href="#WebAppsSec">Web Applications: Security</a></li>
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          <li><a href="#Admin">Administrative issues</a>:
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		   <li>Future F2F meetings</li>
		   <li>Summer telcons</li>
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          <li><a href="#sniffing">Content-type override (sniffing)</a></li>
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        <li><a href="08-minutes.html#item01">Content-type Override (sniffing)</a></li>
	<li><a href="08-minutes.html#item02">http semantics</a></li>
	<li><a href="08-minutes.html#item03">Client-side storage</a></li>
	<li><a href="08-minutes.html#item04">Web Applications: Security</a></li>

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          <li><a href="#awwsw">HTTP Semantics</a></li>
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          <li><a href="#state">Web Applications: Client-side state</a></li>
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      <td align="left" valign="top">14:00-15:15</td>
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          <li><a href="#WebAppsSec">Web Applications: Security</a></li>
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          <li><a href="#WebAppsID">Web Applications: Identification and URIs</a></li>
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        <li><a href="9-minutes.html#item02">Content-type override (ACTION-370 revisited)</a></li>

        <li><a href="9-minutes.html#item03">Fragment ID semantics and XML Media types (continued)</a></li>

        <li><a href="9-minutes.html#item04">Web Applications: Identification and URIs</a></li>

        <li><a href="9-minutes.html#item05">Review Pending Actions</a></li>

        <li><a href="9-minutes.html#item06">Overdue actions</a></li>

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      London, UK (near Paddington)</dd>
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	  <li>Scribes: TAG members are encouraged to sign up by email in advance of the meeting</li>
	  <li>Roll call</li>
          <li>F2F Main Goals: 
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	    <li>Make progress on writing related to Web Application Architecture</li>
	    <li>XML / HTML integration</li>
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      <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/434">ACTION-434</a>: on - Daniel Appelquist - Prepare discussion of structure of what we want to do about web apps architecture... - Due: 2010-05-27 - OPEN</li>
      <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/355">ACTION-355</a>: on - John Kemp - Explore the degree to which AWWW and associated findings tell the interaction story for Web Applications - Due: 2010-06-07 - OPEN &#8212; this isn't due until after the F2F, but minutes of 13 May 2010 say: johnk: busy, hoping to make progress before f2f (it will be close); ashok: JohnK and I will talk &amp; then provide f2f agenda input.</li>
      <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/416">ACTION-416</a>: on - John Kemp - Work on diagrams in "From Server-side to client-side" section of webapps material - Due: 2010-06-06 - OPEN</li>
      <li>Notes from DanA on ACTION-434: <a href=http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/05/web-apps-notes.html"">Web Application Architecture</a> (suggested reading)</li>
      <li>Email from John Kemp on ACTION-355: <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2010Jun/0034.html">AWWW and the Web interaction model </a> (suggested reading)</li>
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      <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/340">ACTION-340</a>: on - John Kemp - summarize recent discussion around XHR and UMP - Due: 2010-06-04 - OPEN</li>
      <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/412">ACTION-412</a>: on - Dan Connolly - Try the clarification question, blog item, or wiki approach to metadata-in-uris vs CSRF - Due: 2010-05-25 - OPEN</li>
      <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/417">ACTION-417</a>: on - John Kemp - Frame section 7, security - Due: 2010-06-06 - OPEN (John unsure if progress will be made on this)</li>
      <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/435">ACTION-435</a>: on - Jonathan Rees - Consult Tyler Close regarding UMP-informed web storage vulnerability analysis - Due: 2010-06-03 - OPEN</li>
      <li>See also:
           <ul>
      <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/280">ACTION-280</a>: on - Dan Connolly - (with John K) to enumerate some CSRF scenarios discussed in Jun in Cambridge - Due: 2010-05-25 - OPEN</li>
      <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/33">ACTION-33</a>: on - Henry S. Thompson - revise naming challenges story in response to Dec 2008 F2F discussion - Due: 2010-06-01 - OPEN</li>
      <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/344">ACTION-344</a>: on - Jonathan Rees - Alert TAG chair when CORS and/or UMP goes to LC - Due: 2010-06-10 - OPEN</li>
      <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/06/01-cross-domain.html">CORS, UMP and XHR</a> by John Kemp (required reading)</li>

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    </ul>
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    <ul>
      <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/422">ACTION-422</a>: on - T.V. Raman - Examine the current text of his client state finding and update appropriately with Noah's email from ACTION-353 - Due: 2010-05-31 - OPEN</li>
      <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/432">ACTION-432</a>: on - Noah Mendelsohn - Review client state finding update w.r.t. maps case - Due: 2010-05-18 - PENDING REVIEW</li>
      <li>Email thread starting with email message <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2010May/0038.html">ACTION-432 and ACTION-422: Maps use case in client side state finding</a> from Noah (required reading)</li>
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    <ul>
      <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/430">ACTION-430</a>: on - Ashok Malhotra - Propose a plan for his contributions to section 5: Client-side state - Due: 2010-06-07 - OPEN</li>
      <li>See newly added section on "client side storage" in <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/05/WebApps.html">Web Applications Architecture</a> (required reading &#8212; <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2010May/0062.html">announcement email from Ashok</a>)</li>
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  <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/24">ISSUE-24</a> (contentTypeOverride-24): <a name="sniffing" id="sniffing">Content-type override (sniffing)</a>
    <ul>
      <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/425">ACTION-425</a>: on - Larry Masinter - Draft updated MIME finding(s), with help from DanA, based on www-tag discussion - Due: 2010-05-31 - PENDING REVIEW</li>
      <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/370">ACTION-370</a>: on - Henry S. Thompson - HST to send a revised-as-amended version of http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Dec/0068.html to the HTTP bis list on behalf of the TAG - Due: 2010-05-17 - PENDING REVIEW</li>
      <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/387">ACTION-387</a>: on - Henry S. Thompson - Review JK/NM's stuff on sniffing, authoritative metadata, self-describing web, incl. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2010Jan/0025.html - Due: 2010-06-07 - PENDING REVIEW</li>
      <li>See also: <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/424">ACTION-424</a>: on - Larry Masinter - Start discussion on www-tag about additional finding/web architecture around MIME types in web architecture, updating existing findings - Due: 2010-06-07 - CLOSED</li>
      <li><a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2010May/0063.html">MIME and the Web </a> (required reading -- see also thread following from that email)</li>
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  <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/50">ISSUE-50</a> (URNsAndRegistries-50): <a name="persistence" id="persistence">Domain name persistence</a>
    <ul>
      <li>We are expecting to discuss the possibility of organizing a workshop on Domain Name persistence</li>
      <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/414">ACTION-414</a>: on - Henry S. Thompson - Prepare a draft agenda, including goals and means, for a proposed afternoon session with invited guests, and circulate for discussion prior to a decision, on the subject of addressing the persistence of domain names - Due: 2010-06-01 - OPEN</li>
      <li>See also: <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/33">ACTION-33</a>: on - Henry S. Thompson - revise naming challenges story in response to Dec 2008 F2F discussion - Due: 2010-06-01 - OPEN</li>
      <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/06/persistence-teaser.html">Some persistence talking points</a> from Jonathan Rees (<a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2010Jun/0032.html">announcement email</a>)</li>
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  <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/57">ISSUE-57</a> (HttpRedirections-57): <a name="awwsw" id="awwsw">HTTP Semantics</a>
    <ul>
       <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/201">ACTION-201</a>: on - Jonathan Rees - Report on status of AWWSW discussions - Due: 2010-05-29 - OPEN</li>
       <li>See also: <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/282">ACTION-282</a>: on - Jonathan Rees - Draft a finding on metadata architecture. - Due: 2010-05-31 - OPEN</li>
       <li>See also: <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/413">ACTION-413</a>: on - Dan Connolly - Suggest a path thru some logic terminology that might speed up httpSemantics discussions - Due: 2010-05-07 - CLOSED</li>

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  <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/54">ISSUE-54</a> (TagSoupIntegration-54): <a name="xmlhtml" id="xmlhtml">HTML / XML Unification</a>
    <ul>
      <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/05/WebApps.html">Note from T.V. Raman</a></li>
      <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/433">ACTION-433</a>: on - Dan Connolly - Help Tim get in touch with staff etc. re XML/HTML unification - Due: 2010-05-28 - OPEN</li>
      <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/427">ACTION-427</a>: on - John Kemp - Read 4 distributed extensibility proposals and summarize them w.r.t. proposals TAG has discussed to date - Due: 2010-06-06 - OPEN</li>
      <li><a href="http://dev.w3.org/html5/html-xhtml-author-guide/html-xhtml-authoring-guide.html">HTML/XHTML Compatibility Authoring Guidelines</a> (draft from HTML WG)</li>
    </ul>
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  <li><a name="fragmedia" id="fragmedia">Fragment ID semantics and XML Media types (added to agenda during F2F)
    <ul>
      <li>During our discussion on 8 June, we noticed what appears to be a conflict between the fragment ID semantics
          for <a href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3870#section-3">media type application/rdf+xml</a>, and <a href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3023#section-7">RFC 3023</a> as published, and also with <a href="http://www.w3.org/2006/02/son-of-3023/draft-murata-kohn-lilley-xml-03.html#frag">proposed revisions to RFC 3023</a> (see also <a href="http://www.w3.org/2006/02/son-of-3023/draft-murata-kohn-lilley-xml-03.html#naming">section: A Naming Convention for XML-Based Media Types)</a>.  We agreed to continue the discussion on 9 June.</li>
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  <li><a name="Admin" id="Admin">Administrative issues</a>: 
    <ul>
      <li>Future TAG F2F meetings
          <ul>
	      <li>Tentative plan for meeting at Google in Mountain View in Oct.</li>
	      <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/429">ACTION-429</a>: on - Noah Mendelsohn - Work on arrangements for a TAG F2F, probably @ Google early Oct (self-assigned) - Due: 2010-07-15 - OPEN</li>
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      <li>Summer telcons</li>
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    <ul>
      <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/pendingreview">Pending review actions</a> in <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/">Tracker</a></li>
      <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/overdue">Overdue actions</a> in <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/">Tracker</a></li>
      <li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/open">Open actions</a> in <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/">Tracker</a></li>
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