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<h1>Agenda of 2 November 2009 TAG F2F Meeting at (<a href="http://www.w3.org/2009/11/TPAC/">TPAC 2009</a>)</h1>
<h2>Note proposed start time: 1:30 PM</h2>
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<li>Convene
<ul>
<li>Chair: Noah, Scribe: TBD</li>
<li>Roll call -- Regrets: John Kemp, Jonathan Rees</li>
<li>Note future regrets: Tim: [Nov 12, 19, 26; 3 December 3 (probable regrets)]; Noah: [Nov 19 & 26]</li>
<li>Agenda Review - <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/11/02-agenda">this agenda</a>
</li>
<li>Next Meeting: 6 November 2009 (morning - at <a href="http://www.w3.org/2009/11/TPAC/">TPAC 2009</a>) Chair: Noah; Scribe: TBD</li>
<li>Future scribes: Ashok -> John -> Larry</li>
</ul>
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<li>Approve minutes of prior meeting(s)
<ul>
<li> Approve <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/23-agenda">Minutes of 23-25 September 2009 F2F</a></li>
<li>Approve <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/08-minutes">minutes of 8 October 2009</a></li>
<li>Approve <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/22-minutes">minutes of 22 October 2009</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Administrative items
<ul>
<li>Appoint scribes</li>
<li>Reminder that, per <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/08-minutes#item02">agreement on the 8th</a>, our meetings at TPAC have been moved to Monday <em>afternoon</em> and Friday <em>morning</em>.</li>
<li>The TAG will hold a joint meeting with the HTML Working group at TPAC on Thursday, after lunch. Exact time is still TBD.</li>
<li>Proposal: next teleconference will be on Friday, 12 Nov. Note that Noah will be unavailable on Nov. 19 and Nov. 26 (US Thanksgiving).</li>
<li>The chair thanks those "shepherds" who have responded to the <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Oct/0051.html">request</a> to update issue status. Other TAG members are requested to update their issues as soon as practical.</li>
<li>Reminder of future F2F meetings:
<ul>
<li>8-10 December 2009 @ MIT (Per <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/25-minutes.html#item03">resolution of 25 June 2009</a> - note that Raman and John Kemp have confirmed the acceptability of this date, though Raman is unsure he'll attend).</li>
<li>17-19 March 2010 @ MIT (per <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/25-minutes.html#item04">decision at Sept. 2009 F2F</a>)</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><a id="privacy">Privacy policy</a>
<ul>
<li>From <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/10/08-minutes#item05">minutes of 8 Oct 2009</a>: RESOLVED that that LMM edit 2009Sep/0073 lightly as discussed 8 Oct and Noah send to Device APIs and Policy Working Group on behalf of the TAG</li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/318">ACTION-318</a> Send note to Device APIs and Policy (DAP) Working Group on behalf of the TAG - on Noah Due: 15 Oct 2009
</li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/321">ACTION-321</a> Bug Larry about his input to
ACTION-318 - on Noah Due: 29 Oct 2009
</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><a id="exi">Efficient XML Interchange</a>
<ul>
<li>Background:
<ul>
<li>The TAG and EXI working groups held a discussion at the 2008 Mandelieu TPAC. Taki Kamiya <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Mar/0003.html">provided a summary</a> of what we discussed. There were two main subjects:
<ol>
<li>How to indicate use of EXI when transmitting XML using HTTP</li>
<li>Request by the TAG for improvements to performance analysis of EXI</li>
</ol>
</li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/176">ACTION-176</a> send comments on exi w.r.t. evaluation and efficiency - on Noah CLOSED: 26 March 2009</li>
<li>(NEW) Taki informs the TAG that <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Nov/0003.html">content-coding tag "exi" has been registered in the IANA registry</a>. Taki notes that: "This content-coding value will be mentioned in the CR version of EXI specification which is expected to be ready for publication soon after the TPAC week."</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Goals:
<ul>
<li>Discuss the new exi content-coding token.</li>
<li>Consider possible response from the TAG to the EXI working group.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><a id="HTML">TPAC Meetings with HTML Working Group</a>
<ul>
<li>Background:
<ul>
<li>TAG will meet with W3C HTML Working Group on Thursday 5 November (afternoon <span style="color:red">exact time TBD -- Noah has query in to HTML WG chairs</span>)</li>
<li><a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Oct/0077.html">Suggested list of TPAC discussion items</a> for HTML WG and TAG (responses from <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Oct/0078.html">Paul Cotten with suggested reading</a>; <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Oct/0082.html">Henry pointing out that the TAG has a concern with the treatment of XHTML documents served as text/html</a>; Dan saying: <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Oct/0083.html">nope, not that concern: what bothers me is requiring that any document that "happens to conform to XML syntax MUST be sent
using the application/xhtml+xml media type"</a>; Dan asking <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Oct/0085.html">has Microdata really been split out?</a> )</li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/HTMLIssuesRevised.pdf">Prioritized list of HTML-related issues</a>, originally developed at Sept. 2009 F2F. (An Open Document Format <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/HTMLIssues.ods">.ods</a> version and an Excel <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/09/HTMLIssues.xls">.xls</a> version are also available.)</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Earlier background:
<ul>
<li>Discussion of versioning and HTML at June 2009 TAG F2F (<a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/23-minutes.html#item03">session 1</a> and <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/24-minutes.html#item03">session 2</a>)
</li>
<li>June 2009 F2F discussion of <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/25-minutes.html#item06">plans to review HTML 5 drafts</a></li>
<li><a href="http://w3.org/2001/tag/doc/versioning-html/versioning-html-20090611.html">Architectural Considerations for Language Versioning for the Web</a> (Note from Larry Masinter and Jonathan Rees)</li>
<li>HTML working group intention to take HTML to W3C Last Call sometime between October and December, 2009 (per <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Aug/0058.html">note from HTML WG co-chair Sam Ruby</a>)</li>
<li>Paul Cotton and Maciej Stchowiak join Sam Ruby as HTML WG co-chairs (<a href="http://www.w3.org/News/2009#item148">announcement</a>)</li>
<li><a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Jul/0026.html">Division of labour for TAG reading the HTML 5 draft specification</a> that we <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/07/23-minutes#item03">agreed to</a> on July 23.</li>
<li>Dan Connolly and Michael Sperberg-McQueen draft <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Mar/att-0444/draft.html">Web addresses in HTML 5</a>, which is factored from the HTML 5 draft. (see <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Mar/0444.html">email from Dan announcing the draft</a>). This was discussed on 23 April 2009 and the associated <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/253">ACTION-253</a> requesting that Dan brief us was closed.
</li>
<li>Ian Hickson <a href=" http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-comments/2009Jun/0016.html">announces</a>
availability of initial drafts of HTML 5 authoring specifications. This is, in part, in response to a <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-comments/2008Oct/0003.html">suggestion</a> made by Noah in October 2008, shortly after the HTML/TAG joint working group meeting
at the Mandelieu Technical Plenary.
</li>
<li>Larry Masinter <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Aug/0064.html">announces</a> new
draft of <a href="http://larry.masinter.net/tag-versioning.html">Architectural Considerations for Language Versioning for the Web
</a>. Chair's <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Aug/0037.html">response</a> from Noah (member-only).</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>TAG Issues relating to this discussion:
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/20">ISSUE-20</a> (errorHandling-20) What should specifications say about error handling? shepherd: Henry Thompson</li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/33">ISSUE-33</a> (mixedUIXMLNamespace-33) Composability for user interface-oriented XML namespaces (no shepherd)</li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/20">ISSUE-41</a> (LanguageVersioning-41) What are good practices for designing extensible languages and for handling versioning? shepherd: Larry Masinter</li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/54">ISSUE-54</a> (TagSoupIntegration-54) Tag soup integration. shepherd: Henry Thompson</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>TAG Actions relating to this discussion:
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/299">ACTION-299</a> on T.V. Raman: Notify the TAG when the HTML WG gets closer to closing issue-4 html-versioning - Due: 2009-10-15</li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/302">ACTION-302</a> on Noah Mendelsohn: Raise (as individual issue) question of 3 words "other applicable specifictions" in 3.2.1 (3.3.1) of HTML 5 Due: 2009-10-20</li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/305">ACTION-305</a> on Noah Mendelsohn: Schedule time at TPAC for joint session with HTML WG - Due: 2009-10-15 (see: <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Oct/0018.html">email from Noah to HTML chairs</a>)</li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/315">ACTION-315</a> on Dan Connolly: Follow up on best plan for HTML / TPAC PENDING REVIEW</li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/316">ACTION-316</a> on Henry Thompson: Henry S. Thompson to draft for tag@w3.org proposed TAG feedback on the text/html media type registration in the 25 September draft of HTML5 Due: 2009-10-02</li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/317">ACTION-317</a> on T.V. Raman: Read http://html5.digitalbazaar.com/specs/html5-epb.html and send some notes to the TAG Due: 2009-10-20</li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/319">ACTION-319</a> on Noah: Consider HTML media type issue for TPAC agenda(s) PENDING REVIEW</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Goals:
<ul>
<li>Prepare for joint TAG/HTML disucussion on Thursday</li>
<li>Review status of TAG actions and issues relating to HTML -- plan next steps</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
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<li><a id="packageURI"></a><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/61">ISSUE-61: Forbidding hyperlinks</a> (uriBasedPackageAccess-61)
<ul>
<li>Background <span style="color:red">(need to flesh out description of this agenda item)</span>:
<ul>
<li>Dan Connolly has requested that we discuss Widget package scheme.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
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<li>Background:
<ul>
<li>Member-only <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-forum/2009OctDec/0058.html">discussion</a> asks about the increasing prevalence of Web sites
that forbid linking to both the "home" page and to "nested" pages. Discussion includes a <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-forum/2009OctDec/0084.html">suggestion</a> that the TAG become involved.</li>
<li>TAG Finding: <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/deeplinking-20030911">"Deep Linking" in the World Wide Web</a> (Sept. 2003)</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Goals:
<ul>
<li>Decide whether the TAG wishes to further investigate the appropriateness of prohibitions on linking.</li>
<li>If so, assign responsibility for further work.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
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<li><a href="Websock">Web Sockets URI schemes and protocols</a>
<ul>
<li>Background:
<ul>
<li>Ian Hickson <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/uri/2009Aug/0002.html">announces</a> the
<a href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hixie-thewebsocketprotocol-35#section-8">IETF registration for the Web socket-related URI schemes</a> ws and wss (I've corrected the fragment identifier from Ian's announcement...NM)
</li>
<li>Alan Ruttenberg <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Aug/0055.html">asks</a> whether the new
Web socket protocol is needed
</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Goals:
<ul>
<li>Decide whether the TAG has concerns with the proposed ws and wss URI schemes
</li>
<li>Decide whether the TAG has concerns with the proposed Web sockets protocol</li>
<li>If "yes" to either of the above, determine next steps.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
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<li><a id="WebApps">Architecture of the Web of Applications</a>
<ul>
<li>Background:
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/25-minutes.html#item04">Agreement</a> at the June 2009
technical plenary that architectural issues relating to Web Applications will be
a <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/TagPriorities.txt">TAG priority</a>.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/webAppsTOC.html">Draft Table of Contents</a> for TAG work on Web Applications.</li>
<li>June 2009 F2F discussions:
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/23-minutes.html#item02">W3C work on APIs</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/23-minutes.html#item04">Web Application State Management</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/23-minutes.html#item05">Javascript security</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/24-minutes.html#item01">Mobile Web</a></li>
<li>Web Architecture for Applications (<a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/24-minutes.html#item04">session 1</a>
and <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/25-minutes.html#item05">session 2</a>)</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Ashok <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Jul/0049.html">asks</a> whether TAG should review the
<a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-geolocation-API-20090707/">Geolocation last call</a> draft.</li>
<li>We have published a working draft <a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-hash-in-uri-20090415/">Usage Patterns For Client-Side URI parameters </a> (<a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/23-minutes.html#item04">discussion of Web Application State</a> at the June 2009 F2F - we decided
at the end of this discussion to delay further work on this draft until more progress is made in framing the broader issues relating to Web Application architecture.)</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>TAG Issues relating to this discussion:
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/60">ISSUE-60</a> (webApplicationState-60) Web Application State Management shepherd: T.V. Raman</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>TAG Actions relating to this discussion:
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/264">ACTION-264</a>: Draft agenda item for upcoming telcon discussion of geolocation and privacy - Ashok Malhotra. Due: 2009-07-11</li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/273">ACTION-273</a>: Carry forward framing issues around Archicture of APIs, with help from JK and LM - Ashok Malhotra. Due: 2009-06-15</li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/275">ACTION-275</a>: Propose concrete steps wrt GeoPriv after consultion with W3C members/staff - Dan Connolly. Due: 2009-06-30 CLOSED</li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/276">ACTION-276</a>: Take GeoPriv discussion with IETF forward in person in July - Larry Masinter. Due: 2009-06-30</li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/278">ACTION-278</a>: Draft changes to 2.7 of Metadata in URIs to cover the "Google Calendar" case - Jonathan Rees. Due: 2009-07-07</li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/279">ACTION-279</a>: Draft a message to webapps chairs relaying TAG concerns around CORS - Henry Thompson. Due: 2009-06-24 CLOSED</li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/280">ACTION-280</a>: (with John K) to enumerate some CSRF scenarios discussed in Jun in Cambridge - Dan Connolly. Due: 2009-06-30</li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/284">ACTION-284</a>: Flesh out the Web Application (http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/webAppsTOC.html) outline with as many sentences as he can - Jonathan Rees. Due: 2009-07-01</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Goals:
<ul>
<li>Larry <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Aug/0006.html">requests</a> that we discuss GEOPRIV and Geolocation
next steps.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
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<li><a id="metadata">Metadata</a>
<ul>
<li>Background:
<ul>
<li>June 2009 F2f <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/24-minutes.html#item02">discussion of metadata access and formats</a></li>
<li><a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Jul/0153.html">Framing an Architecture for Metadata on the Web</a> (email from Larry Masinter in relation to <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/254">ACTION-254</a>; see also <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Jul/0154.html">response from Ashok</a>)</li>
<li>
Pre-June F2F Background
<ul>
<li>Pursuant to <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/227">ACTION-227</a>, Jonathan Rees prepared <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/02/metadata-survey.html">a survey of issues relating to metadata</a>. </li>
<li>See email thread starting with <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Feb/0221.html">Jonathan's announcement of the survey document</a>.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>TAG Issues relating to this discussion:
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/36">ISSUE-36</a> (siteData-36) Web site metadata improving on robots.txt, w3c/p3p and favicon etc. shepherd: Dan Connolly</li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/55">ISSUE-55</a> (utf7Encoding-55) Security issues with incorrect metadata (no shepherd)</li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/63">ISSUE-63</a> (Metadata Architecture for the Web) Metadata Architecture for the Web shepherd: Larry Masinter</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>TAG Actions relating to this discussion:
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/254">ACTION-254</a>: Send email to www-tag announcing issue-63 - Larry Masinter. PENDING REVIEW</li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/281">ACTION-281</a>: Keep an eye on progress of link header draft, report to TAG, warn us of problems - Ashok Malhotra. Due: 2009-08-01</li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/282">ACTION-282</a>: Draft a finding on metadata architecture - Jonathan Rees. Due: 2009-08-31</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Goals:
<ul>
<li>Review Larry's proposal for <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Jul/0153.html">Framing an Architecture for Metadata on the Web</a>.</li>
<li>Review progress on action items.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
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<li style="color:red"><a id="tagSoup">TagSoupIntegration-54</a> (<a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/54">ISSUE-54</a>) and liaison with HTML working group
<ul>
<li>HTML Working Group chair Sam Ruby will be joining us for this discussion</li>
<li>Background:
<ul>
<li> On teleconference of 28 May 2009, the chair was
<a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/05/28-minutes#item04">asked to invite HTML WG chair Sam Ruby</a> to join
us on a TAG telcon soon, and/or to invite him to call in to one of our F2F sessions.
</li>
<li>Efforts at AC meeting, etc., to bring HTML5 and XHTML communities together</li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/versioning-html">Draft on versioning and HTML</a> (originally prepared by Larry Masinter; checked
into W3C URI space by Jonathan Rees (<a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Jun/0037.html">announcement email</a>).
NOTE: this document has not been reviewed in detail by other TAG members; it does not represent consensus of the
TAG.</li>
<li><a href="http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#microdata">Microdata section</a> in <a href="http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html">HTML 5 Draft Specification</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Goals:
<ul>
<li>Get an update from Sam on areas of mutual interest, including efforts to bring
HTML5/XHTML communities, RDFa discussions, etc.</li>
<li>Briefly review with Sam the work is doing in areas of potential interest for HTML</li>
<li>Explore how the TAG can be most helpful to the HTML WG and associated community</li>
<li>Review with Sam the TAG's tentative explorations of language versioning in the context
of HTML (next topic)</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
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<li style="color:red"> <a id="versioning">LanguageVersioning-41</a> (formerly XMLVersioning-41) (<a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/41">ISSUE-41</a>).
<ul>
<li>Background (recent):
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/272">ACTION-272</a> - Report back to the TAG on outcome of collaboration with LM on Versioning - on Jonathan Rees - Due on: 2009-06-04</li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/versioning-html">Draft on versioning and HTML</a> (originally prepared by Larry Masinter; checked
into W3C URI space by Jonathan Rees (<a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Jun/0037.html">announcement email</a>).
NOTE: this document has not been reviewed in detail by other TAG members; it does not represent consensus of the
TAG.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Background (older reference material):
<ul>
<li>Larry Masinter email <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Apr/0061.html">update ISSUE-41</a>, including announcement that Larry has "renamed this issue from 'XML Versioning' to 'Language Versioning', updated the description, and added a note about the direction [he hopes] our discussion will take" (29 April 2009)</li>
<li>Larry Masinter email <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009May/0004.html">Versioning and HTML - recap</a> (1 May 2009) </li>
<li><a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Mar/0146.html">Chair's message summarizing status of versioning work in the TAG</a> (sent 24 March 2009).
</li>
<li><a href="http://intertwingly.net/blog/2009/04/08/HTML-Reunification">Sam Ruby blog posting on HTML reunification</a></li>
<li><a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Apr/0028.html">Larry Masinter review of TAG work on versioning</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/04/09-minutes#item05">9 April 2009 TAG teleconference</a> discussion of versioning and 16 April 2009 TAG teleconference discussion of versioning <span style="color:red">(minutes not yet available)</span>.</li>
<li>
HTML working group action 108 <a href="http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/108">requests that the TAG consider HTML when working on versioning</a></li>
<li>The TAG had earlier decided not to actively pursue development
of the finding on versioning.</li>
<li>TAG Blog posting: <a href="http://www.w3.org/QA/2007/12/version_identifiers_reconsider.html">Version Identifiers Reconsidered</a></li>
<li>
Thread starting with <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Feb/0147.html">John Kemp email on updating AWWW good practice note on versioning</a>
</li>
<li>At 23 March 2009 AC meeting there was at least an informal sense that the AC wanted the TAG to help with the extensibility issue,
primarily in the context of HTML.
Tim took an action (from the AC, not the TAG) to see that the TAG takes a look at this.</li>
<li>The following TAG actions are open or pending under ISSUE-41:
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/272">ACTION-272</a> - Report back to the TAG on outcome of collaboration with LM on Versioning - on Jonathan Rees - Due on: 2009-06-04</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Goals:
<ul>
<li>Review progress on ACTION 272</li>
<li>Continue consideration of Larry's <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009May/0004.html">recap note</a></li>
<li>Try to move toward framing discussion of versioning, in the context of HTML, for the June F2F</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
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<li style="color:red"><a id="F2FPlanning">F2F Agenda Planning</a>
<ul>
<li>Background
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/271">ACTION-271</a> Work with jar to draft strawman agenda for F2F - due 28 May 2009 (unclear whether a draft will be ready for discussion on Thurs. Will make best effort. [Noah])</li>
<li><a href="">Discussion of F2F planning</a> from 28 May 2009 teleconference.</li>
<li>List of <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/open">open actions</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/23-agenda">Draft agenda for the F2F</a></li>
<li><a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Jun/0025.html">Email</a> (member-only) outlining responsibilities of shepherds.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Goals
<ul>
<li>Review and refine the <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/23-agenda">draft F2F agenda</a>
</li>
<li>Review <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Jun/0025.html">responsibilities of shepherds</a>.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
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<li>Security
<ul>
<li>Background
<ul>
<li style="color:red"><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/274">ACTION-274</a> See if I can reconstruct a discussion with tlr where present course and speed will lead to GET-based links becoming regarded as unsafe - on Dan Connolly - Due 4 June 2009
</li>
<li>Discussion of security on 28 March 2009 teleconference <span style="color:red"><== link to minutes when avialable</span></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Goals
<ul>
<li>Discuss issues relating to Web security.</li>
<li>Consider closing <a href="ACTION-204">ACTION-204</a>.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
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<li><a>IRIEverywhere-27</a> (<a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/27">ISSUE-27</a>):
<ul>
<li>Discussed 7 May. See minutes of 7 May, and especially poll and associated decision
on next steps. <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/265">http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/265</a> ACTION-265 - Dan Connolly to work with Larry, Henry to frame technical issues relating to the vairous overlapping specs. about URIs, IRIs and encoding on the wire - due 2009-05-14 - OPEN. We'll see how they do to decide about scheduling this.</li>
<li>Background:
<ul>
<li>As <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/04/23-minutes#item04">promised</a> during teleconference
of 23 April 2009, Henry Thompson has prepared an email titled <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Apr/0081.html">A new RFC for Web Addresses/Hypertext References: Background wrt LEIRIs</a>. This will be the framework for
our discussion this week.</li>
<li>Dan Connolly and Michael Sperberg-McQueen draft <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Mar/att-0444/draft.html">Web addresses in HTML 5</a>, which is factored from the HTML 5 draft. (see <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Mar/0444.html">email from Dan announcing the draft</a>). This was discussed on 23 April 2009 and the associated <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/253">ACTION-253</a> requesting that Dan brief us was closed.
</li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/188">ACTION-188</a> on Dan Connolly: Investigate the URL/IRI/Larry Masinter possible resolution of the URL/HTML5 issue. - due 2009-03-17 - closed.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/24">ACTION-24</a> on Tim Berners-Lee: clarify <a href="http://www.w3.org/2003/04/iri">http://www.w3.org/2003/04/iri</a>, perhaps by using N3 - due 2009-06-17 - open</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Goals:
<ul>
<li>Assign a shepherd for <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/27">ISSUE-27</a></li>
<li>Discuss relationship of 5 specifications as outlined in <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Apr/0081.html">above referenced email from Henry</a>.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
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<li><a id="apis"></a>Should the TAG look into architectural issues relating to APIs?
<ul>
<li>Background
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/273">ACTION-273</a> Carry forward framing issues around Archicture of APIs, with help from JK and LM - on Ashok Malhotra - Due 4 June 2009 - OPEN
</li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/274">ACTION-274</a> See if I can reconstruct a discussion with tlr where present course and speed will lead to GET-based links becoming regarded as unsafe - on Dan Connolly - PENDING REVIEW</li>
<li><a href="http://code.google.com/p/google-caja/">Caja</a> A source-to-source translator for securing Javascript-based web content (and similar architectures being considered for standardization in ECMAScript.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Goals
<ul>
<li>Review progress made by Ashok, John, and Larry in framing issues relating to Architecture of APIs for the Web
</li>
<li>Determine whether this should be a serious are of focus for the TAG, and whether to devote time to it at the upcoming F2F.</li>
<li>Assign responsibility for next steps.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
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<li><a id="sniffing">contentTypeOverride-24</a> (<a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/24">ISSUE-24</a>):
<ul>
<li>Discussion will be led by: Dan Connolly (Dan has not confirmed that he's available to do this; if not we'll defer discussion.)</li>
<li>Background:
<ul>
<li>TAG Finding <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/mime-respect-20060412">Authoritative Metadata</a> (12 April 2006)</li>
<li>Dan Connolly <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Feb/0233.html">suggests</a> that we discuss the draft <a href="http://ietfreport.isoc.org/idref/draft-abarth-mime-sniff/">Content-Type Processing Model</a>, by Ian Hickson and Adam Barth; the draft proposes interoperable rules for Content-type "sniffing" in browsers. Note that the draft acknowledges at one point that it is in "... willful violation of the HTTP specification. [<a href="http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2616.txt">RFC2616</a>]".
</li>
<li>16 April 2009 TAG teleconference <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/04/16-tagmem-minutes#item05">discussion of content type override</a> and the Internet Draft cited above. We agreed to pick up discussion on a telcon within the next few weeks.</li>
<li><a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Apr/0020.html">Larry Masinter email</a> pointing to <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Apr/0020.html">Minutes from the IETF/HTML liaison meeting in March</a>, including discussion of content sniffing.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/257">ACTION-257</a> on Noah Mendelsohn: Schedule TAG to revisit progress in IETF/HTML liaison on content sniffing (invite Mark Not or Lisa D?) - due 2009-05-15 - open</li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/261">ACTION-261</a> on Larry Masinter: Followup with Mark Nottingham and Lisa D. regarding Adam Barth's sniffing draft - due 2009-04-23 - open</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Goals:
<ul>
<li>Continue discussion started on 16 April 2009.</li>
<li>Decide on specific steps TAG can take to maximize
impact of TAG Finding <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/mime-respect">Authoritative Metadata</a> or to otherwise positively
impact industry directions regarding Content-type "sniffing"</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
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<li>webApplicationState-60 (<a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/60">ISSUE-60</a>): Web Application State Management
<ul>
<li style="color:red">Discussed 7 May. General sentiment that this is worth doing well, probably leading
to a finding. Some ambivilence regarding appropriateness of aiming for Recommendation. Raman has a concern
that if he pursues this, he needs some serious participation from other TAG members. Noah also (action 266)
to announce to community that draft is open for discussion. (That action was discharged almost immediately.) Tentatively, we will not schedule discussion on 14
May, but this is being left as a placeholder to remind to doublecheck before finalizing the agenda. </li>
<li>Background:
<ul>
<li>We have published a working draft <a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-hash-in-uri-20090415/">Usage Patterns For Client-Side URI parameters </a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/236">ACTION-236</a> on Noah Mendelsohn: Schedule discussion of the stress on media types imposed by client-side synthesised content - due 2009-04-28 - pending review</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Goals:
<ul>
<li>Decide next steps on issue 60 now that WD is published.</li>
<li>Consider issues relating to media types. When we establish rules for fragment identifiers synthesized
at the client, are media type specifications involved in determining the interpretation of those
ids?</li>
<li>Appoint shepherd for issue 60. Task the shepherd with updating the issue description
to point to working draft and reflect agreed plans.</li>
<li>Close <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/236">ACTION-236</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
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<li><a id="namespaceState">nameSpaceState-48</a> (<a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/48">ISSUE-48</a>) (Brief):
<ul>
<li style="color:red">Discussed 7 May. Hope is that we'll resolve this in email discussion ahead of 14 May. See minutes of 7 May.</li>
<li>Background:
<ul>
<li>Dan <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Apr/0059.html">alerts us</a> (member only) that working draft <a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-namespaceState-20060329/
">http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-namespaceState-20060329/</a> is way overdue for update
</li>
<li><a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Apr/0061.html">Reply from Norm Walsh</a> (member only)</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Goals:
<ul>
<li>Decide whether to:
<ol>
<li>do nothing; it'll default to "WD no longer in development" and probably not be easy to find
</li>
<li>re-publish as Note</li>
<li>re-publish as WD (incorporating comments, though it's not apparent we've received any)
</li>
</ol>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
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<li style="color:red"><a id="CURIE">CURIEs</a> in RDFa, @rel, and the HTML profile attribute
<ul>
<li>Discussion will be led by: John Kemp (unconfirmed)</li>
<li>Background:
<ul>
<li>The TAG been <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Feb/0295.html">asked to help resolve concerns
with the use of CURIEs in RDFa and with the HTML profile attribute</a>. </li>
<li>See also the very long email thread that began with an <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Feb/0270.html">email message from Mark Nottingham to www-tag titled "Using XMLNS in link/@rel"</a>, which in turn led to a message to the public-html list from Julian Reschke titled <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Feb/0753.html">@rel syntax in RDFa (relevant to ISSUE-60 discussion), was: Using XMLNS in link/@rel</a>. The long thread starts with that; early messages in the thread were not cross-posted to www-tag, but later ones were (starting with <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Feb/0279.html">this one</a>).</li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/240">ACTION-240</a> on John Kemp: read thread on RDFa, CURIEs and profile and summarize <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Feb/0295.html">http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Feb/0295.html</a> - - due 2009-03-21 - - OPEN.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Goals:
<ul>
<li>Review www-tag discussion of this issue</li>
<li>Decide what steps, if any, the TAG wants to take to help
the community resolve these concerns.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
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<li><a id="resources">Semantics of "resources" in RFC 3986 and RFC 2616</a>
<ul>
<li>Background:
<ul>
<li>Pat Hayes <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Jul/0170.html">note</a> expressing interest
in TAG's opinion of a position taken by Henrik Nordstrom. The question relates
to compatibility, or lack thereof, of the concept of "Resource" as used
in <a href="http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2616.txt">RFC 2616</a> vs. in <a href="http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3986.txt">RFC 3986</a>, and in the context of the TAG's <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2005Jun/0039">resolution</a> of
issue <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html?type=1#httpRange-14">httpRange-14</a> (now tracked
as <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/14">ISSUE-14</a> - CLOSED).
The note summarizing Henrik's view is included as a forward in the note from Pat.
In any case, Pat says "I do not expect a reply, but I put it to y'all...".</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Goals:
<ul>
<li>Decide whether we want to consider the question(s) posed by Pat, and if so, establish next steps.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
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<li><a id="sniffing">contentTypeOverride-24</a> (<a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/24">ISSUE-24</a>):
<ul>
<li>Background:
<ul>
<li>Larry <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Aug/0006.html">requests</a> that we discuss
origin header and content sniffing in <a href="http://www.ietf.org/dyn/wg/charter/httpbis-charter.html">HTTPbis</a>.</li>
<li>Discussion on 13 August 2009 <span style="color:red">(minutes not yet available)</span></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Goals:
<ul>
<li>Discuss progress on...oops, ACTION 297 was closed as soon as it was opened (see minutes of 13 Aug when
available)</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
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<li><a id="IRI">IRIEverywhere-27</a> (<a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/27">ISSUE-27</a>):
<ul>
<li>Goals:
<ul>
<li>Get a review from Larry of his <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Aug/0008.html">informal discussions about IRIs</a> at the recent IETF meeting. The specific concern is "around making sure that no host name
containing a % or containing raw non-ascii is ever passed to
a DNS resolver".</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>On Aug 13 we agreed ACTION-298, Larry to notify TAG when new IRI draft avaialble.</li>
</ul>
</li>
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<li>Pending Review Items:
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/pendingreview">Pending review actions</a> in <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/">Tracker</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Overdue Action Items:
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/overdue">Overdue actions</a> in <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/">Tracker</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Any other business
</li>
</ol>
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