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<p><a href="http://www.w3.org/">W3C</a> | <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/">TAG</a> | Previous teleconference: <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2006/09/26-tagmem-minutes">21 Nov.</a> |
Next teleconference: 19 Dec.</p>

<h1>TAG face-to-face meeting, 11-13 December 2006, Cambridge, MA,
USA</h1>

<p>Nearby: <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html">issues list</a> -
<a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/findings">findings</a> - <a
href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/">www-tag archive</a> - <a
href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/">tag archive</a> - <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/actions_owner.html">pending actions</a></p>

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<div style="background-color: silver; padding-left: .8em" id="minutes">
<h2>Minutes</h2>
<ul>
  <li><a href="11-minutes">Mon, 11
    Dec. </a>
    <ol>
        <li><a href="11-minutes#item01">Administration</a></li>

        <li><a href="11-minutes#item02">F2F Planning (First Pass)</a></li>

        <li><a href="11-minutes#item03">Agenda review</a></li>

        <li><a href="11-minutes#item04">Possible TAG Participation in Workshop on Web of Services for  Enterprise Computing</a></li>

        <li><a href="11-minutes#item05">Issue passwordsInTheClear-52</a></li>

        <li><a href="11-minutes#item06">metadataInURI-31</a></li>

        <li><a href="11-minutes#item07">Issue xmlFunctions-34</a></li>

        <li><a href="11-minutes#item08">Issue whenToUseGet-7, WS-Transfer</a></li>

        <li><a href="11-minutes#item09">TagSoupIntegration-54</a></li>
    </ol>
  </li>
  <li><a
    href="12-tagmem-minutes">Tue, 12 Dec</a>
      <ol>
        <li><a href="12-tagmem-minutes#item01">XMLVersioning-41</a></li>

        <li><a href="12-tagmem-minutes#item02">Web Services issues</a></li>

        <li><a href="12-tagmem-minutes#item03">Issue TagSoupIntegration-54 (cont)</a></li>

        <li><a href="12-tagmem-minutes#item04">Issue XMLVersioning-41
        (cont)</a></li>
      </ol>

  </li>
  <li><a href="13-morning-minutes">Wed. 13 Dec.</a>
  <ol>
    <li><a href="13-morning-minutes#item01">Semantic Web</a></li>
    <li><a href="13-morning-minutes#item02">Issue namespaceDocument-8</a></li>

    <li><a href="13-morning-minutes#item03">TAG face-to-face meeting schedule
    (cont)</a></li>

    <li><a href="13-morning-minutes#item04">Issue RDFinXHTML-35</a></li>

    <li><a href="13-morning-minutes#item05">Issue xml11Names-46</a></li>

    <li><a href="13-morning-minutes#item06">Concluding Remarks</a></li>
  </ol>

  </li>
</ul>
</div>

<p>Contents:</p>

<div class="toc">
<ul>
  <li><a href="#Logistics">1. Logistics</a></li>
  <li><a href="#L305">2. Recommended readings</a></li>
  <li><a href="#L97">3. Agenda</a>
    <ul>
      <li><a href="#L99">3.1. Administrative</a></li>
      <li><a href="#L1370">3.2. Issue passwordsInTheClear-52</a></li>
      <li><a href="#L247">3.3. Issue metadataInURI-31</a></li>
      <li><a href="#L122">3.4. Issue whenToUseGet-7</a></li>
      <li><a href="#L1334">3.5. Issue XMLVersioning-41</a></li>
      <li><a href="#L1251">3.6. Issue TagSoupIntegration-54</a></li>
      <li><a href="#L1386">3.7. Issue namespaceDocument-8</a></li>
      <li><a href="#L400">3.8. Issue xmlFunctions-34</a></li>
      <li><a href="#L427">3.9. Issue RDFinXHTML-35</a></li>
      <li><a href="#L1280">3.10. Semantic Web Architecture</a></li>
      <li><a href="#L542">3.11. Issue xml11Names-46</a></li>
      <li><a href="#L168">3.12. Priorities and plans</a></li>
    </ul>
  </li>
</ul>
</div>
</div>

<h2 id="Logistics">1. Logistics</h2>
<dl>
  <dt>Venue</dt>
    <dd>W3C/MIT<br />
      Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory <br
      clear="none" />
      32 Vassar St.<br clear="none" />
      Cambridge, MA 02139<br clear="none" />
      USA
      <p><a
      href="http://www.w3.org/Consortium/directions.html#mit">Directions</a>,
      <a href="http://www.csail.mit.edu/contact/contact.html">more
      directions</a>, <a
      href="http://whereis.mit.edu/map-jpg?mapterms=32&amp;mapsearch=go">map</a></p>
      <p>Tel: +1 (617) 253 2613</p>
      <p>We will use two meeting rooms:</p>
      <ul>
        <li>Monday: <a
          href="https://www.csail.mit.edu/resources/maps/6G/G631.gif">room
          G631</a> located directly above the W3C area on the 5th floor</li>
        <li>Tuesday &amp; Wednesday: CSAIL Board room (room 601), located off
          a corridor between the Gate and Dreyfoos towers on the 6th floor<br
          />
        </li>
      </ul>
    </dd>
  <dt>Schedule</dt>
    <dd>Monday 11 Dec.: 9:00 - 17:30<br />
      Tuesday 12 Dec.: 9:00 - 17:30<br />
      Wednesday 13 Dec.: 9:00 - 15:00</dd>
</dl>

<h2 id="L305">2. Recommended readings</h2>
<ul>
  <li>Draft finding: <a
    href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/passwordsInTheClear-52">Passwords in
    the Clear</a> (13 Nov. 06)</li>
  <li>Draft finding: <a
    href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/metaDataInURI-31">The use of
    Metadata in URIs</a> (4 Dec. 06)</li>
  <li>Draft finding: <a
    href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/versioning">Extending and Versioning
    Languages Part 1</a> (29 Sep. 06)</li>
  <li>Draft finding: <a
    href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/nsDocuments/">Associating Resources
    with Namespaces</a> (13 Dec. 05)</li>
  <li>Note: <a href="http://www.w3.org/2004/01/rdxh/specbg.html">Storing Data
    in Documents: The Design History and Rationale for GRDDL</a></li>
  <li>Draft: <a
    href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2006Dec/att-0034/SEMWEB.html">Data
    on the Web</a> (8 Dec. 06)</li>
</ul>

<h2 id="L97">3. Agenda</h2>

<h3 id="L99">3.1. Administrative</h3>

<p>Convene, take roll, review agenda </p>

<p>Regrets: TV, Norm will participate remotely on Monday, Dave will arrive
around 11:30 on Monday</p>

<p>Appoint scribes for the three days:<br />
Mon am: NM, pm: ER, Tue am: HT, pm: DC, Wed am: NW, pm:TBL</p>

<p>Approve <a href="http://www.w3.org/2006/11/21-tagmem-minutes.html">minutes
of previous teleconference</a> (21 Nov.)</p>

<p>Next teleconference: 19 Dec. regrets: ?, scribe (propose Noah)</p>

<p>Next f2f: should we pencil a date (around mid-March 2007) and a location
before the election of new members?</p>

<p>Accept this agenda?</p>

<p>TAG participation in the <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2006/10/wos-ec-cfp.html">Workshop on Web of Services
for Enterprise Computing</a></p>

<h3 id="L1370">3.2. Issue <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html#passwordsInTheClear-52">passwordsInTheClear-52</a></h3>

<p>Discussion of the latest <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/passwordsInTheClear-52">draft
finding</a> (11 Dec. 06)</p>

<p><a
href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2006Nov/0089.html">Suggestion</a>
from Noah for new section.</p>

<p>Pending action:</p>
<ul>
  <li>ER, accepted on 21 Nov 2006: Produce a new version with these
  changes.</li>
</ul>

<h3 id="L247">3.3. Issue <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html#metadataInURI-31">metadataInURI-31</a></h3>

<p>New <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/metaDataInURI-31">draft
finding</a> (4 Dec. 2006), <a
href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2006Dec/0003.html">announcement</a>
-- reviewers: Dan, Ed.</p>

<p>Could we approve this as the final version?</p>

<p>Pending actions:</p>
<ul>
  <li>DC, accepted on 4 Oct 2006: Review security section on risks of serving
    executables as .jpeg to metadataInURI draft. Confirmed on 14 Nov
  2006.</li>
  <li>NM, accepted on 14 Nov 2006: Rework metadataInURI 1st example to be
    more explicit as per Tim's suggestion, and update GPN per Dan's
    suggestion.</li>
  <li>HT, accepted on 14 Nov 2006: Seek a copy of the official court record
    of the UK case on ../../ etc.</li>
</ul>

<h3 id="L122">3.4. Issue <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html#whenToUseGet-7">whenToUseGet-7</a></h3>

<p>See <a href="http://www.w3.org/Submission/2006/08/">WS-Transfer
Submission</a></p>

<p>See also issue <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html#endPointRefs-47">endPointRefs-47</a></p>

<p>Last action (24 Oct. 2006): message from Tim, <a
href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2006Oct/0061.html">WS-Transfer
and HTTP, re TAG Issues whenToUseGet-7 &amp; endPointRefs-47</a></p>

<p>What is the next step?</p>

<p>TAG participation in the <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2006/10/wos-ec-cfp.html">Workshop on Web of Services
for Enterprise Computing</a></p>

<h3 id="L1334">3.5. Issue <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html#XMLVersioning-41">XMLVersioning-41</a></h3>

<p>How to resume progress on this issue? We could consider breaking up the <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/versioning">draft finding</a> (29 Sep.
2006)</p>

<p>Pending actions:</p>
<ul>
  <li>VQ, accepted on 3 Mar 2006: Write to www-tag about CSS versioning being
    a problem "levels"</li>
  <li>DC, accepted on 8 Aug 2006: Review definitions of partial
    understanding, backward compatible, and forward compatible</li>
  <li>HT, accepted on 5 Oct 2006: Henry to extend his paper to a definition
    of monotonicity and its relevance to our versioning finding.</li>
  <li>DC, accepted on 5 Oct 2006: Capture UML diagram for the minutes [of
    Vancouver f2f]</li>
</ul>

<h3 id="L1251">3.6. Issue <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html#TagSoupIntegration-54">TagSoupIntegration-54</a></h3>

<p>Anything new on this issue? What happened at the Backplane meeting?</p>

<p>Last discussion: <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2006/11/07-minutes.html#item08">7 Nov.
2006</a></p>

<h3 id="L1386">3.7. Issue <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html#namespaceDocument-8">namespaceDocument-8</a></h3>

<p>How to get organized to make progress on the draft finding?</p>

<p>See draft finding <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/nsDocuments/">Associating Resources with
Namespaces</a> (13 Dec. 2005, Norm ed.)</p>

<p>See <a
href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2006Dec/0031.html">proposed
update</a> from Norm</p>

<p>See <a
href="http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/200612/msg00044.html">RDDL: new
natures</a> and thread (new <a href="http://www.rddl.org/natures/">natures
document</a>)</p>

<p>See <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2006/11/14-tagmem-minutes#item03">latest
discussion</a> and <a
href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2006Nov/0086.html">request</a>
from the GRDDL WG: "follow your nose from XML documents to namespace
documents?"</p>

<p>Pending actions:</p>
<ul>
  <li>HT, accepted on 6 Sep 2005: track progress of #int bug 1974 in the XML
    Schema namespace document in the XML Schema WG</li>
  <li>NW, accepted on 10 Jan 2006: propose to Jonathan Borden that he changes
    to using a file of Natures.</li>
  <li>TBL, accepted on 5 Oct 2006: With Norm, draft semantic web architecture
    stories and such.</li>
</ul>

<h3 id="L400">3.8. Issue <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html#xmlFunctions-34">xmlFunctions-34</a></h3>

<p>Could we start drafting a TAG finding on this issue?</p>

<p>Pending actions:</p>
<ul>
  <li>NW, accepted on 6 Dec 2005: with help from HT, produce a draft finding
    on XML functions in January [2006]</li>
  <li>TVR, accepted on 27 Feb 2006: summarize history of
    DTD/namespace/mimetype version practice, including XHTML, SOAP, and
  XSLT</li>
  <li>TBL, accepted on 27 Feb 2006: write a short email to make his point so
    we capture this for future</li>
</ul>

<h3 id="L427">3.9. Issue <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html#RDFinXHTML-35">RDFinXHTML-35</a></h3>

<p>What is the next step on this issue?</p>

<p>Not much discussion in the TAG during the last 12 months.</p>

<p>See <a href="http://www.w3.org/2004/01/rdxh/specbg.html">Note from
Dan</a></p>

<h3 id="L1280">3.10. Semantic Web Architecture</h3>

<p>We need to get the TAG to focus more on the semantic Web. What could be
done in addition to the above issues?</p>

<p>See <a
href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2006Dec/att-0034/SEMWEB.html">Data
on the Web</a> by Norm</p>

<h3 id="L542">3.11. Issue <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html#xml11Names-46">xml11Names-46</a></h3>

<p>Status update</p>

<p>Last discussion: <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2006/01/31-tagmem-minutes.html#item08">31 Jan
2006</a></p>

<p>Pending actions:</p>
<ul>
  <li>NW, accepted on 4 Oct 2005: Check on current status of issue
    xml11Names-46 with XML CG</li>
  <li>HT, accepted on 7 Feb 2006: Bring us back to xml11Names-46 after the
    XML Schema WG publishes its expected Last Call WD.</li>
</ul>

<h3 id="L168">3.12. Priorities and plans</h3>

<p>What are our priorities for the next months?</p>

<p>A few people may be leaving in February. Could we try to finish the work
they are involved in?</p>

<p>Review <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/actions.html">pending
actions</a></p>

<p>Reassign issues owned by those who will be leaving.</p>
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