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<p><a href="http://www.w3.org/">W3C</a> | <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/">TAG</a> | Previous teleconference: <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2006/06/06-agenda.html">6 June</a> | Next
teleconference: <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2006/06/27-agenda.html">27 June</a></p>
<h1>Agenda of TAG face-to-face meeting, 12-14 June 2006, Amherst, MA, USA</h1>
<p>Nearby: <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html">issues list</a> -
<a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/findings">findings</a> - <a
href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/">www-tag archive</a> - <a
href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/">tag archive</a> - <a
href="../../actions_owner.html">pending actions</a></p>
<div style="background-color: silver" id="minutes">
<h2>Minutes</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="12-tagmem-minutes.html">Monday 12 June</a></li>
<li>Tuesday 13 June: <a href="13-morning-minutes.html">Morning</a>, <a
href="13-afternoon-minutes.html">Afternoon</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2006/06/14-minutes.html">Wednesday
14 June</a></li>
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<h2>Agenda</h2>
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<ul>
<li><a href="#Logistics">1. Logistics</a></li>
<li><a href="#L305">2. Recommended readings</a></li>
<li><a href="#Admin">3. Administrative</a></li>
<li><a href="#Technical">4. Technical discussions</a>
<ul>
<li><a href="#Versioning">4.1. Day 1</a>
<ul>
<li><a href="#Issue">4.1.1. Issue genericResources-53</a></li>
<li><a href="#Issue1">4.1.2. Issue XMLVersioning-41</a></li>
<li><a href="#L971">4.1.3. Issue URNsAndRegistries-50</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><a href="#Security">4.2. Day 2: Security and related issues</a>
<ul>
<li><a href="#Issue2">4.2.1. Issue ultimateQuestion-42</a></li>
<li><a href="#issue">4.2.2. issue passwordsInTheClear-52</a></li>
<li><a href="#issue1">4.2.3. issue siteData-36</a></li>
<li><a href="#L888">4.2.4. Security and decentralized identity
systems</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><a href="#Metadata">4.3. Day 3: Metadata, URIs, namespaces</a>
<ul>
<li><a href="#L170">4.3.1. Issue metadataInURI-31</a></li>
<li><a href="#L620">4.3.2. CURIEs</a></li>
<li><a href="#Issue3">4.3.3. Issue RDFinXHTML-35</a></li>
<li><a href="#Issue4">4.3.4. Issue namespaceDocument-8</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><a href="#Other">4.4. Other issues</a>
<ul>
<li><a href="#Issue5">4.4.1. Issue abstractComponentRefs-37</a></li>
<li><a href="#Issue6">4.4.2. Issue endPointRefs-47</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
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<h2 id="Logistics">1. Logistics</h2>
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<dt>Venue</dt>
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<p>The Board Room, 2nd floor<br />
Computer Science Building<br />
<span class="street-address">140 Governors Drive</span><br />
<span class="additional-address">University of Massachusetts</span><br
/>
<span class="locality">Amherst</span>, <span class="region">MA</span>
<span class="postal-code">01003-9264</span></p>
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<p>More details on the <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2006/06/12-logistics.html">logistics
page</a></p>
</dd>
<dt>Schedule</dt>
<dd>Monday 12 June: 9:00 - 17:30<br />
Tuesday 13 June: 9:00 - 17:30<br />
Wednesday 14 June: 9:00 - 17:00</dd>
</dl>
<h2 id="L305">2. Recommended readings</h2>
<ul>
<li>Draft finding (first version): <a
href="../../doc/alternatives-discovery.html">On Linking Alternative
Formats To Enable Discovery And Publishing</a> -- reviewers: Dave,
Norm</li>
<li>Draft finding <a href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/state.html">State
in Web application design</a> -- reviewers: Ed, Noah, Norm</li>
<li>Draft finding (first version): Sending Passwords in the Clear (to be
published) -- reviewers: DanC, VQ</li>
<li>First Working Draft: <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2006/appformats/group/AccessControlTF?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=AC-2006-05-15.html">Authorizing
Read Access to XML Content Using the <?access-control?> PI</a></li>
<li>Draft finding: <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/metaDataInURI-31">The use of
Metadata in URIs</a> -- reviewers: Ed TV</li>
<li>Dan's notes on <a href="http://www.w3.org/2006/03dc-aus-lga/swauth">Web
security architectures</a></li>
<li>Draft finding: <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/URNsAndRegistries-50.html">URNs,
Namespaces and Registries</a> -- reviewers: DanC, Ed</li>
</ul>
<h2 id="Admin">3. Administrative</h2>
<p>Monday</p>
<ol>
<li>Convene, take roll, review agenda
<p>Regrets: none</p>
<p>Appoint scribes for the three days, propose @@@</p>
<p>Approve <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2006/06/06-tagmem-minutes">minutes</a>
of previous teleconference</p>
<p>Next teleconference: cancel 20 June? regrets: Noah, Norm, Tim, Dave</p>
<p>Accept this agenda?</p>
</li>
<li>Summer schedule
<p>Discuss dates for summer break (if any)</p>
</li>
<li>Future f2f meetings
<p>Current status:</p>
<ul>
<li>4-5 Oct 2006, Vancouver, BC, Canada, hosted by <a
href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2005Dec/0023.html">BEA</a>
(<a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2006/02/27_minutes.html#L44">discussed</a>
27 Feb. 2006, <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2006/04/25-tagmem-minutes#item01">confirmed</a>
25 April 2006)</li>
<li>6-8 Dec. 2006 (?) at MIT (?) (<a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2006/02/27_minutes.html#L44">discussed</a>
27 Feb. 2006, to be revisited) -- <a
href="http://2006.xmlconference.org/">XML 2006</a>, 5-7 Dec. 2006,
Boston</li>
</ul>
<p>Decide about the date and location of the winter meeting</p>
</li>
</ol>
<h2 id="Technical">4. Technical discussions</h2>
<p>Refer to preparatory discussions (<a
href="http://www.w3.org/2006/05/16-tagmem-minutes.html#item01#item01">16
May</a>, <a href="http://www.w3.org/2006/05/30-tagmem-minutes.html#item02">30
May</a>)</p>
<h3 id="Versioning">4.1. Day 1</h3>
<h4 id="Issue">4.1.1. Issue <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html#genericResources-53">genericResources-53</a></h4>
<p>Reviewing first draft: <a href="../../doc/alternatives-discovery.html">On
Linking Alternative Formats To Enable Discovery And Publishing</a></p>
<p>Reviewers: Dave, Norm</p>
<h4 id="Issue1">4.1.2. Issue <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html#XMLVersioning-41">XMLVersioning-41</a></h4>
<p>Update on the current situation and plans</p>
<p>Draft finding: <a
href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2004Nov/att-0071/versioning-part1.html">Extending
and Versioning XML Languages Part 1</a>, <a
href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2004Nov/att-0071/versioning-part2.html">Part
2: Schema Languages</a> (Dave, Norm, 24 Nov 2004)</p>
<p>Last discussion: <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2006/03/03-tagmem-minutes.html#item01">03
Mar 06</a></p>
<p>Pending actions:</p>
<ol>
<li>DO, <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2005/09/22-tagmem-minutes.html#action01">accepted
on 22 Sep 2005</a>: Update finding with ext/vers</li>
<li>DO, <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2005/09/22-tagmem-minutes.html#action05">accepted
on 22 Sep 2005</a>: With NM continue and extrapolate the versioning work
DO et al have been doing already, updating the terminology section.
Reconfirmed <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2005/12/05-tagmem-minutes.html#action03">5 Dec
2005</a>, <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2006/02/14-tagmem-minutes#action05">14
Feb 2006</a>.</li>
<li>HT, <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2005/09/22-tagmem-minutes.html#action04">accepted
on 22 Sep 2005</a>: Make sure that what he is doing with ontology of XML
infoset fits with what DanC is doing on ontology of Language etc.</li>
<li>DO, <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2005/12/05-tagmem-minutes.html#action03">accepted
on 5 Dec 2005</a>: Produce a new draft of his versioning finding by the
end of the year</li>
<li>DO, <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2006/02/21-tagmem-minutes.html#action01">accepted
on 21 Feb 2006</a>: Provide two diagrams: one XML-ignorant, one
XML-aware</li>
<li>VQ, <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2006/03/03-tagmem-minutes.html#action02">accepted
on 3 Mar 2006</a>: Write to www-tag about CSS versioning being a problem
"levels"</li>
<li>DC, <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2006/03/03-tagmem-minutes.html#action03">accepted
on 3 Mar 2006</a>: Look at the document and see if it is good for
informing on this SMIL problem of multiple namespaces</li>
</ol>
<h4 id="L971">4.1.3. Issue <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html#URNsAndRegistries-50">URNsAndRegistries-50</a></h4>
<p>Reviewing ther latest version of <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/URNsAndRegistries-50.xml">URNs,
Namespaces and Registries</a></p>
<p>Reviewers: DanC, Ed (<a
href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2006Jun/0039.html">notes</a>)</p>
<p>Pending action:</p>
<ol>
<li>HT, <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2006/04/18-tagmem-minutes.html#item10">accepted
on 18 Apr 2006</a>: Henry and David to update draft finding URNs,
Namespaces and Registries</li>
</ol>
<h3 id="Security">4.2. Day 2: Security and related issues</h3>
<p>Tuesday 13 June, with two invited participants: B. Adida, Th. Roessler
[remotely]</p>
<h4 id="Issue2">4.2.1. Issue <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html#ultimateQuestion-42">ultimateQuestion-42</a></h4>
<p>Reviewing draft finding <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/state.html">State in Web application
design</a></p>
<p>Reviewers: Ed (<a
href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2006Jun/0040.html">notes</a>),
Noah (<a
href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2006Jun/0009.html">notes</a>),
Norm</p>
<p>Open a new issue?</p>
<p>Pending action:</p>
<ol>
<li>NDW, <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2006/04/25-tagmem-minutes#action05">accepted
on 25 Apr 2006</a>: Review draft state finding for 9 May.</li>
</ol>
<h4 id="issue">4.2.2. issue <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html#passwordsInTheClear-52">passwordsInTheClear-52</a></h4>
<p>Reviewing new draft finding from Ed (to be published soon)</p>
<p>Reviewers: DanC, VQ</p>
<p>Pending action:</p>
<ol>
<li>ER, <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2006/04/18-tagmem-minutes.html#action01">accepted
on 18 Apr 2006</a>: Ed to communicate new issue and produce first draft
finding</li>
</ol>
<h4 id="issue1">4.2.3. issue <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html#siteData-36">siteData-36</a></h4>
<p><a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/access-control/"><?access-control?>
PI</a>: should the TAG get involved in this work? see <a
href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2006May/0000.html">email</a>
from Dan.</p>
<p>Pending action:</p>
<ol>
<li>DC, <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2004/01/12-tag-summary.html#siteData-36">accepted
on 12 Jan 2003</a>: Propose an example of a site description.</li>
</ol>
<h4 id="L888">4.2.4. Security and decentralized identity systems</h4>
<p>Investigation of decentralized identity systems (OpenID, SXIP). Ed is
reviewing DIX documents from IETF</p>
<p>New work for the TAG on security?</p>
<h3 id="Metadata">4.3. Day 3: Metadata, URIs, namespaces</h3>
<h4 id="L170">4.3.1. Issue <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html#metadataInURI-31">metadataInURI-31</a></h4>
<p id="L1701">Reviewing the latest version of the draft finding <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/metaDataInURI-31">The use of Metadata in
URIs</a> (<a
href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2006Jun/0037.html">email</a>
from Noah)</p>
<p id="L17011">Reviewers: Ed (<a
href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2006Jun/0041.html">notes</a>),
TV</p>
<p id="L170111">Could we reach a final agreement on this finding?</p>
<p>Pending actions:</p>
<ol>
<li>DO, <a href="http://www.w3.org/2003/07/21-tag-summary.html">accepted on
21 Jul 2003</a>: Send rationale about why WSDL WG wants to peek inside
the URI.</li>
<li>NM, <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2006/05/30-tagmem-minutes.html#action06">accepted
on 30 May 2006</a>: Produce new version of The use of Metadata in
URIs</li>
</ol>
<h4 id="L620">4.3.2. CURIEs</h4>
<p>Follow up from the AC meeting. Reviewing proposals.</p>
<h4 id="Issue3">4.3.3. Issue <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html#RDFinXHTML-35">RDFinXHTML-35</a></h4>
<p>Quick update</p>
<h4 id="Issue4">4.3.4. Issue <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html#namespaceDocument-8">namespaceDocument-8</a></h4>
<p>Status update</p>
<p>Draft finding <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/nsDocuments/">Associating Resources with
Namespaces</a></p>
<p>Pending actions:</p>
<ol>
<li>NW, <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2005/07/12-minutes.html#action01">accepted
on 12 Jul 2005</a>: Follow up on noah's <a
href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2005Jun/0067.html">message</a>
on ns name. Reconfirmed on <a
href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2006Jan/att-0003/Jan102005.html#action01">10
Jan 2006</a></li>
<li>HT, <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2005/09/06-minutes.html#action04">accepted
on 6 Sep 2005</a>: Track progress of <a
href="http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=1974">#int bug
1974</a> in the XML Schema namespace document in the XML Schema WG</li>
<li>NW, <a
href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2006Jan/att-0003/Jan102005.html#item03">accepted
on 10 Jan 2006</a>: Propose to Jonathan Borden that he changes to using a
file of Natures</li>
</ol>
<h3 id="Other">4.4. Other issues</h3>
<h4 id="Issue5">4.4.1. Issue <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html#abstractComponentRefs-37">abstractComponentRefs-37</a></h4>
<p>Last discussion: <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2006/05/16-tagmem-minutes.html#item04">16 May
06</a></p>
<p>Draft finding: <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/abstractComponentRefs.html">Abstract
Component References</a></p>
<p>Pending actions:</p>
<ol>
<li>DO, <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2003/10/20-tag-summary#abstractComponentRefs-37">accepted
on 20 Oct 2003</a>: Revise draft finding based on comments at 20 Oct
teleconf.</li>
<li>DO, <a
href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2003Nov/0008.html">proposal
on 3 Nov 2003</a>: IJ published this from material sent by DO to IJ
privately on 30 Oct 2003.</li>
</ol>
<h4 id="Issue6">4.4.2. Issue <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html#endPointRefs-47">endPointRefs-47</a></h4>
<p>Last discussion: <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2006/03/28-tagmem-minutes.html#item02">28 Mar
2006</a></p>
<p>Pending action:</p>
<ol>
<li>DO, <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2005/10/04-minutes.html#action02">accepted
on 4 Oct 2005</a>: draft something indicating the issues with EPR and
potential solutions</li>
</ol>
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Vincent Quint for TAG<br />
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