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<h1>Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference</h1>
<h2>25 Mar 2009</h2>
<p><a href=
'http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Mar/0057.html'>
Agenda</a></p>
<p>See also: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/03/25-mediafrag-irc">IRC log</a></p>
<h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>
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<dl>
<dt>Present</dt>
<dd>Thierry, Yves, Jack, Davy, Raphael</dd>
<dt>Regrets</dt>
<dd>Erik</dd>
<dt>Chair</dt>
<dd>Raphael</dd>
<dt>Scribe</dt>
<dd>raphael</dd>
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<h2>Contents</h2>
<ul>
<li>
<a href="#agenda">Topics</a>
<ol>
<li><a href="#item01">4. Issues</a></li>
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</li>
<li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
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<p class='phone'> </p>
<p class='phone'> </p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Date: 25 March
2009</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Gui</cite>> +regrets Gui</p>
<p class='phone'>Hi Guillaume, you cannot make the telecon?</p>
<p class='phone'>Yves, try to dial another number?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> scribenick:
raphael</p>
<p class='phone'>Topic 1. ADMIN</p>
<p class='phone'>Propose to accept the minutes of last
telecon?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>All:</cite> accept without changes</p>
<p class='phone'><strong class='resolution'>RESOLUTION: minutes
accepted</strong></p>
<p class='phone'>Topic 2. F2F meeting</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> we need to discuss the
agenda, build it together<br />
... what are your objectives?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jack:</cite> it would be good if we
could discuss concrete implementations<br />
... mine could be ready, if we clarify the range unit
syntax<br />
... then it is a 1/2 day coding</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> my expectation would be
also to discuss test cases, and of course the main document</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Yves:</cite> we need to build a story
around the 4-ways handshake<br />
... also talk about the link header</p>
<p class='phone'>Topic 3. Main Document</p>
<p class='phone'>3.1: Syntax</p>
<p class='phone'>ACTION-46?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-46 -- Yves
Lafon to check the formal validity of the grammar -- due
2009-03-25 -- OPEN</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/46">http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/46</a></p>
<p class='phone'>close ACTION-46</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-46 Check
the formal validity of the grammar closed</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Yves:</cite> I have built a small parser
in java / cc that validates the grammar<br />
... no mistake in the grammar</p>
<p class='phone'>3.2 Use Cases and requirements</p>
<p class='phone'>Silvia and Guillaume will finish it by the end
of this week</p>
<p class='phone'>3.3 Technology Survey</p>
<p class='phone'>Erik would like to know if he could take
action to improve this section</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> what changes can we
bring?<br />
... I think for example that the formal grammar of TimedText is
unnecessary</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jack:</cite> what about a companion
document ?<br />
... I would suggest summarize the wiki page in the main
document<br />
... and provide an informative reference to the complete wiki
page<br />
... I would like to have this technology survey perhaps
published as a Working Group note since I find it useful</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Davy:</cite> 5.1 should be in the ref
section</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> yes, the examples come
actually from 5.3</p><a name="action01" id="action01"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Erik to summarize the content of the
wiki page to put in the main document, with few examples and a
short story [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/03/25-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2009/03/25-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-51
- Summarize the content of the wiki page to put in the main
document, with few examples and a short story [on Erik Mannens
- due 2009-04-01].</p>
<p class='phone'>3.4 HTTP implementation</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> I would like to replace
all the examples with the real videos Jack took in
Ghent</p><a name="action02" id="action02"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Raphael to replace all examples in the
wiki page with the video Jack took [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/03/25-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2009/03/25-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Sorry, couldn't
find user - Raphael</p>
<p class='phone'>trackbot, status</p><a name="action03" id=
"action03"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Rapha�l to replace all examples in the
wiki page with the video Jack took [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/03/25-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2009/03/25-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Sorry, couldn't
find user - Rapha�l</p><a name="action04" id="action04"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Raphaël to replace all examples in the
wiki page with the video Jack took [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/03/25-mediafrag-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2009/03/25-mediafrag-minutes.html#action04</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-52
- Replace all examples in the wiki page with the video Jack
took [on Raphaël Troncy - due 2009-04-01].</p>
<p class='phone'>ACTION-49?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-49 -- Yves
Lafon to draft the HTTP-Range syntax for different units
(completing all the syntax for the two way handshake) -- due
2009-03-25 -- OPEN</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/49">http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/49</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Yves:</cite> I will definitively make
that before the f2f<br />
... starts with seconds first, so to not block
implementation</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jack:</cite> do you want to copy the
movies on the W3C server?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> yes, to have permanent
URI for these resources<br />
... which format we will use? mp4, ogg?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jack:</cite> ffmpeg should be able to
slice the movie, need to check</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Davy:</cite> we have a piece of software
that should be able to slice a media file independantly of the
codec format<br />
... I will demo this software during the f2f meeting</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Yves:</cite> media.w3.org works on
Apache, would be good to check for deployment</p><a name=
"action05" id="action05"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Jack to check whether ffmpeg can slide
movies easily, need for implementation on client and server
side [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/03/25-mediafrag-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2009/03/25-mediafrag-minutes.html#action05</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-53
- Check whether ffmpeg can slide movies easily, need for
implementation on client and server side [on Jack Jansen - due
2009-04-01].</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Yves:</cite> also consider the file://
protocol, everything on client</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Davy:</cite> I'm also experimenting to
provide a RTSP implementation<br />
... I could report my current work at the f2f meeting</p>
<h3 id="item01">4. Issues</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> we cannot discuss them,
since neither Michael nor Silvia are here</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael_</cite>> meeting will be
back at the normal hour next week</p>
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<h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Erik to summarize
the content of the wiki page to put in the main document, with
few examples and a short story [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/03/25-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2009/03/25-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Jack to check
whether ffmpeg can slide movies easily, need for implementation
on client and server side [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/03/25-mediafrag-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2009/03/25-mediafrag-minutes.html#action05</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Raphael to
replace all examples in the wiki page with the video Jack took
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/03/25-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2009/03/25-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Raphaël to
replace all examples in the wiki page with the video Jack took
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/03/25-mediafrag-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2009/03/25-mediafrag-minutes.html#action04</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Rapha�l to
replace all examples in the wiki page with the video Jack took
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/03/25-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2009/03/25-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03</a>]<br />
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