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  <h1>Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference</h1>

  <h2>16 Feb 2011</h2>

  <p><a href=
  'http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Feb/0011.html'>
  Agenda</a></p>

  <p>See also: <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2011/02/16-mediafrag-irc">IRC log</a></p>

  <h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>

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      <dt>Present</dt>

      <dd>Erik, Davy, Silvia, Philip</dd>

      <dt>Regrets</dt>

      <dd>Raphael, Thomas, Yves</dd>

      <dt>Chair</dt>

      <dd>Erik</dd>

      <dt>Scribe</dt>

      <dd>Erik</dd>
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  <h2>Contents</h2>

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      <a href="#agenda">Topics</a>

      <ol>
        <li><a href="#item01">ADMIN</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item02">MEDIA FRAGMENT SPECIFICATION</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item03">HTML5 / WHATWG Liaison</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item04">AOB</a></li>
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    <li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
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    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Date: 16 February
    2011</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt; scribe: Erik</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt; ScribeNick: Erik</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>foolip</cite>&gt; I'll be on IRC</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>foolip</cite>&gt; but would like to go
    for lunch soon</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>foolip</cite>&gt; what does "approve"
    mean, and what happens if I don't?</p>

    <h3 id="item01">ADMIN</h3>

    <p class='phone'>PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the last
    week telecon: <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2011/02/02-mediafrag-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2011/02/02-mediafrag-minutes.html</a></p>

    <p class='phone'>+1</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>davy</cite>&gt; +1</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; +1</p>

    <p class='phone'><strong class='resolution'>RESOLUTION: last
    week's minutes accepted</strong></p>

    <h3 id="item02">MEDIA FRAGMENT SPECIFICATION</h3>

    <p class='phone'>So Philip, are you happy with the spec now
    (concerning your issue-19)?</p>

    <p class='phone'>fyi ... ISSUE-19 [Philippe]: Parsing must be
    defined normatively in the MF spec itself</p>

    <p class='phone'>fyi ... ISSUE-19 [Philippe]: Parsing must be
    defined normatively in the MF spec itself</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>foolip</cite>&gt; no, not last I
    checked</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>foolip</cite>&gt; let me dig up the
    mail I sent</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>foolip</cite>&gt; <a href=
    "http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010Dec/0035.html">
    http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010Dec/0035.html</a></p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>foolip</cite>&gt; no reply to that yet
    and no spec change as far as I'm aware</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>foolip</cite>&gt; <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/19">http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/19</a>
    is still in state OPEN, as it should</p>

    <p class='phone'>OK, chicken vs egg ...</p>

    <p class='phone'>are you happy to commit these 4 patches
    yourself?</p>

    <p class='phone'>and then the rest of the group has to object
    within a week ...</p>

    <p class='phone'>if no objections, we go to LCWD, what do you
    think?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>foolip</cite>&gt; I could, but I'm
    certain that it won't be popular</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>foolip</cite>&gt; I could perhaps be
    more moderate and only *add* stuff, leaving in things that I'd
    personally rather see removed</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>foolip</cite>&gt; ok, will give it a
    go</p>

    <p class='phone'>foolip ... no disagreement any more (about
    e.g. parsing name-value pairs)</p>

    <p class='phone'>foolip ... some patches were already
    installed, others were omitted ... some patches will add stuff,
    others will remove stuff</p>

    <p class='phone'>foolip ... but most is editorial stuff, no
    real issues anymore</p><a name="action01" id="action01"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> philip to merge the first 3 patches of
    his mail of 15/12/2010 into the spec [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2011/02/16-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2011/02/16-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-212
    - Merge the first 3 patches of his mail of 15/12/2010 into the
    spec [on Philip Jägenstedt - due 2011-02-23].</p>

    <p class='phone'>for the record: if no objections by the rest
    of the group, Philippe (as the last one of the WG) is happy to
    move on to LCWG for the 2nd time</p>

    <h3 id="item03">HTML5 / WHATWG Liaison</h3>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; <a href=
    "http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Feb/0002.html">
    http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Feb/0002.html</a></p>

    <p class='phone'>davy ... will comment on Silvia's thread too
    on mailing list</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; if people could
    please send their opinions on this, too, that would be
    appreciated</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; email to the
    thread</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; then we can decide
    next week</p>

    <p class='phone'>silvia ... really wants all comments by next
    week, so she can move forward with this issue to the HTML5
    group</p>

    <p class='phone'>all other topics will be handled next week
    when we have more people on board!</p>

    <h3 id="item04">AOB</h3>

    <p class='phone'>- Davy and Erik attended Web &amp; TV workshop
    @ Berlin last week ... most prominent discussions were:</p>

    <p class='phone'>and minutes are to be found : <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2011/02/08-webtv-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2011/02/08-webtv-minutes.html</a></p>

    <p class='phone'>and <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-webtv-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-webtv-minutes.html</a></p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>scribe:</cite> summary of workshop will
    be available soon.</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>davy</cite>&gt; W3C Web &amp; TV
    workshop: lots of discussions regarding HTTP adaptive
    streaming</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>davy</cite>&gt; MPEG DASH seems to
    become the standard for HTTP streaming</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>davy</cite>&gt; there are still some
    doubts whether DASH will be royalty free or not</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>davy</cite>&gt; Also, the integration
    of MPEG DASH within HTML5 was discussed</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>davy</cite>&gt; -&gt; related with the
    Multitrack API</p>
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  <h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
  Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> philip to merge
  the first 3 patches of his mail of 15/12/2010 into the spec
  [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2011/02/16-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2011/02/16-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br />

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