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<h1>Social Web Incubator Group Teleconference</h1>
<h2>16 Sep 2009</h2>
<p>See also: <a href="http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-irc">IRC
log</a></p>
<h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>
<div class="intro">
<dl>
<dt>Present</dt>
<dd>AlexPassant, AndreaP, tinkster, rreck, +1.314.683.aabb,
Dsr, +1.510.931.aacc, pchampin, bblfish, hhalpin, DKA,
FabGandon</dd>
<dt>Regrets</dt>
<dd>Mischa, PeterF, Joaquin, Hakan, cperey</dd>
<dt>Chair</dt>
<dd>hhalpin</dd>
<dt>Scribe</dt>
<dd>rreck</dd>
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<h2>Contents</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="#agenda">Topics</a></li>
<li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
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<hr />
<div class="meeting">
<p class='phone'> </p>
<p class='phone'>say something</p>
<p class='phone'>yes i hear you</p>
<p class='phone'>whose money?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> trackbot, start
meeting</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Date: 16 September
2009</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> 1. Convene SWXG WG
meeting of 2009-09-16T13:00-15:00Z</p>
<p class='phone'>money could be saved using asterix</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> Hans?</p>
<p class='phone'>hides</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tinkster</cite>> not today, i may
have to rush off</p>
<p class='phone'>sure i will</p>
<p class='phone'>i just need help knowing who is talking
sometimes</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> PROPOSED: to
approve SWXG WG Weekly -- 9th September 2009 (only text IRC
notes!) as a true record</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/02-swxg-irc.txt">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/02-swxg-irc.txt</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tinkster</cite>> you mean this?
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/09-swxg-irc">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/09-swxg-irc</a></p>
<p class='phone'>+1 accept</p>
<p class='phone'>yes</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>bblfish</cite>> yes</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>MacTed</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>bblfish</cite>> I think it was
making you talk very fast</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> RESOLVED: to
approve SWXG WG Weekly -- 9th September 2009 (only text IRC
notes!) as a true recor</p>
<p class='phone'>headsets are powered by USB some
places</p><a name="action01" id="action01"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> hhalpin needs to convert previous
minutes into HTML via some script [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-85
- Needs to convert previous minutes into HTML via some script
[on Harry Halpin - due 2009-09-23].</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> PROPOSED: to meet
again Wed. Sept. 23rd</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> 2. General
Organization and Task Forces</p>
<p class='phone'>ok, what is the next item to meet again?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tinkster</cite>> yes</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tinkster</cite>> much better</p>
<p class='phone'>what is the acronym?</p>
<p class='phone'>TPAC?</p>
<p class='phone'>thanks</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>dan:</cite> TPAC is a multigroup meeting
scheduled for 2 days</p>
<p class='phone'>zakim: mute me</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>harry:</cite> has requested days but has
yet to receive confirmation</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>dan:</cite> scheduled for Monday only
ATM<br />
... open day Monday but business on Tuesday<br />
... W3C is asking for a registration and $50 charge</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>harry:</cite> this might effect
attendance</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>dan:</cite> this barrier may not be
compatible with inviting new people's interest<br />
... W3C has to pay for the facility</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>harry:</cite> my suggestion is to meet
as an XG on Monday to work on UseCase documents<br />
... on Tuesday get our XG to attend identity workshop<br />
... earlybird registration ends tomorrow<br />
... fee is substantial but covers a week's attendance, and
maybe we can get a reduced fee for attending for a day<br />
... we can attempt to do outreach during that time</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>dan:</cite> we can do XG on Tuesday, but
have Monday as an openday in a neutral location</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>bblfish</cite>> I could look about
Sun Microsystems offices</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>bblfish</cite>> in center of SF</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>harry:</cite> that sounds acceptable</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>dan:</cite> does anyone have a contact
for finding a space?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> unknown: how many
people?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>dan:</cite> possibly 100</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> unknown: there is a
one floor office space with limited space</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> unknown: outside san
francisco ?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>dan:</cite> mountain view area<br />
... in that general geographic area</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>bblfish</cite>> question: should it
be in SF? In SF I don't think it is possible for more than 30.
In Menlo Park there will certainly be space for more</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>bblfish</cite>> yes, it's in Bay
Area</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>dan:</cite> where is menlo park?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>bblfish</cite>> ah ok</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>bblfish</cite>> I thought it was in
SF</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>bblfish</cite>> yes, I'll check</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>bblfish</cite>> how does one create
a TASK?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>dan:</cite> henry can you check if we
can access to that space?<br />
... we need the space on Tuesday</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>harry:</cite> agreed</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>bblfish</cite>> if someone can
create a task for me</p><a name="action02" id="action02"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> bblfish to check on Monday 2nd of Nov.
for SUN space for Social Web open day [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action02</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-86
- Check on Monday 2nd of Nov. for SUN space for Social Web open
day [on Henry Story - due 2009-09-23].</p><a name="action03"
id="action03"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> DKA to communicate Monday->Tuesday
switch for SWXG. [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action03</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-87
- Communicate Monday->Tuesday switch for SWXG. [on Daniel
Appelquist - due 2009-09-23].</p><a name="action04" id=
"action04"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> DKA to
summarize OSLO and geoLocation conversation in order to spread
knowledge of these efforts among W3C members [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action04</a>]</p><a name="action05"
id="action05"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> Mischa to
describe/implement a report of terms and conditions, and how
they change between now and the end of the XG. [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action05</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> 3. Invited Guest
Invitations</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> Something on
activity streams looks interesting</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> <a href=
"http://wiki.activitystrea.ms/">http://wiki.activitystrea.ms/</a></p><a name="action06"
id="action06"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> danbri to
find someone from Opera to talk Widgets [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action06</a>]</p><a name="action07"
id="action07"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> danbri
and karl to contact Evan of identi.ca over OpenMicroblogging
and W3C. [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action07</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tinkster</cite>> Libby Miller also
has an activities-in-RDF thing in progress.</p><a name=
"action08" id="action08"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> Renato
and DanBri and hhalpin to schedule DataPortability.org/XMPP
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action08</a>]</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>harry:</cite> since no one appears to
have contacts, look at the specs</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> 4. Technical
Overview</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> What precisely
should be in the technical overview? The matrix? Mappings? How
should the matrix relate to the user-stories</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> 5. User
Stories</p><a name="action09" id="action09"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> adam to
write up the boeing use case for enterprise social networks
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action09">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action09</a>]</p><a name="action10"
id="action10"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> rreck to
flesh out anonymous usecase connecting to multiple identies and
null provenance [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action10">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action10</a>]</p><a name="action11"
id="action11"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> Oshani to
merge document takedown with time-related takedown "forget this
in ten years" and more general concept of data removal.
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action11">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action11</a>]</p><a name="action12"
id="action12"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> oshani to
reframe the geolocation/intent/portability [recorded in
<a href="http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action12">
http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action12</a>]</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>harry:</cite> what else do people want
to see in the technical overview?</p><a name="action13" id=
"action13"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> oshani to
flesh out "Intransitivity of Policies Applied to Social Network
Data" [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action13">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action13</a>]</p><a name="action14"
id="action14"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> bblfish
to relabel data protection use case to be about controlled
access and takedown to data "about" you [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action14">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action14</a>]</p><a name="action15"
id="action15"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> bblfish
to merge Family and Group access usecases. [recorded in
<a href="http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action15">
http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action15</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> [CONTIUES]
<strong>ACTION:</strong>caribou to flesh out Data Protection
use-case specifying user vs. purpose, cite their work in
PrimeLife</p>
<p class='phone'>i can hear a pin drop</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tinkster</cite>> libby miller's
sketch of activities in RDF - <a href=
"http://swordfish.rdfweb.org/discovery/2009/06/activ/schema.html">
http://swordfish.rdfweb.org/discovery/2009/06/activ/schema.html</a></p><a name="action16"
id="action16"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> hhalpin
explain to henry and oshani doc editing process for usecase
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action16">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action16</a>]</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>harry:</cite> given the lack of comments
i will put forth some proposals<br />
... do we have RDF serializations of some of these streams?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> 7. Invited Guest -
David Raggett</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>harry:</cite> please looks at activity
streams</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>dsr</cite>> slides <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/Talks/1609-dsr-intermediaries.pdf">http://www.w3.org/2009/Talks/1609-dsr-intermediaries.pdf</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>dsr:</cite> provides background about
himself that rreck misses<br />
... people can ask as we go through the slides<br />
... web privacy is a challenge<br />
... i will present some approaches<br />
... websites often present policies that are hard to
digest<br />
... these appear to protect the website than help the
user<br />
... slide 3<br />
... access from a variety of devices - laptop, mobile,
livingroom -etc</p>
<p class='phone'>im lazy</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>bblfish</cite>> that's a good use
case: being able to login from any machine</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>dsr:</cite> people are likely to click
through<br />
... worrying but possibly meaningless<br />
... global identifiers are possibly not great<br />
... openID is convenient<br />
... slide 6 open ID<br />
... its good in someway since its constrained access
rights<br />
... what is the next step beyond openID</p>
<p class='phone'>rreck im having trouble keeping up</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>dsr:</cite> slide 9</p>
<p class='phone'>thanks</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>bblfish</cite>> you have forgotten
software sales as a business model</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>bblfish</cite>> one could build
software, and have people pay for the updates, or for
insurance</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>MacTed</cite>> Agents</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>DKA</cite>>
web-cloud-social-ajax-mashups</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>DKA</cite>> (or mashup-agents)</p>
<p class='phone'>otherwise we end up trusting everyone</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tinkster</cite>> dsr: when social
networks change privacy policies, it would be good if the old
policy continued to stick to previously-submitted data.</p>
<p class='phone'>i forget about scribing sorry</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> privacy provider
specifications?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>harry:</cite> are there existing privacy
policy specifications?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>dsr:</cite> p3p<br />
... most users arent willing to open browser policies<br />
... delegation model is useful in this context<br />
... its a challenge to keep abreast of what is happening in
this area<br />
... as its in its infancy</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>bblfish</cite>> you could also use
Access control on RESTful resources that return different
representations when different people access the site depending
on what group of people have access to what info</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>harry:</cite> we are writing a report
therefore we looking at where to point</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>melvster</cite>> Delivery Context
Ontology: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/TR/dcontology/">http://www.w3.org/TR/dcontology/</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>dsr:</cite> context awareness and
personalization working group<br />
... is being re-charter</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>dsr</cite>> uwawg <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/uwa/">http://www.w3.org/2007/uwa/</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>dsr:</cite> continue working on the
context ontology<br />
... aligning this work with groups outside of W3C<br />
... how do apply research to simplify things<br />
... workshop in the spring, based on funding issues</p>
<p class='phone'>cling?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>oshani</cite>> pling</p>
<p class='phone'>ty</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>harry:</cite> where is the role of the
device context ontology<br />
... what is needed from the social web</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>dsr:</cite> personalization side, it can
be multifaceted<br />
... context involves a shared vocabulary<br />
... that require defining</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>harry:</cite> other ontologies?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>dsr:</cite> yes<br />
... combining ontologies that dont preclude combinations</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>harry:</cite> what would you like us to
say?</p>
<p class='phone'>golly im scribingly challenged</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>dsr:</cite> work on vocabulary and
standards will help</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>harry:</cite> is there anything you
would like from incubator groups?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>bblfish</cite>> yea we have a lot
of open source and demonstrators at <a href=
"http://esw.w3.org/topic/foaf+ssl">http://esw.w3.org/topic/foaf+ssl</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>dsr:</cite> i havent thought of anything
at this point</p>
<p class='phone'>thanks for the presentation dsr</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>harry:</cite> who would be willing to
document the main points of this talk?<br />
... one or two paragraphs</p>
<p class='phone'>privacy is much more than identity</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> dsr: "privacy is
much more than identity, and usability points to delegation
models."</p>
<p class='phone'>can the speaker please document their
question</p>
<p class='phone'>content negotiation</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>pchampin</cite>> I have seen an
openID provider offering multiple URIs for one account</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>pchampin</cite>> with a Firefox
extension to manage them easily</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>bblfish</cite>> Content negotiation
can return different representations depending on who is
accessing the web site.</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>pchampin</cite>> but that ties you
to this particular provider...</p>
<p class='phone'>cryptographic techniques which can minimize
disclosing personal data</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> +1 on usability</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>melvster</cite>> i can try and
write up a 1/2 paragraph summary</p><a name="action17" id=
"action17"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> melvster to write up David Raggett's
guest talk on context, delegated privacy providers, and so on.
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action17">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action17</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Sorry, couldn't
find user - melvster</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>dsr:</cite> delivery ontologies arent
perfect yet<br />
... vocabulary issues are best addressed up front</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> Meeting
adjourned.</p><a name="action18" id="action18"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> mcarvalh to write up David Raggett's
guest talk on context, delegated privacy providers, and so on.
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action18">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action18</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-88
- Write up David Raggett's guest talk on context, delegated
privacy providers, and so on. [on Melvin Carvalho - due
2009-09-23].</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> trackbot, end
meeting</p>
</div>
<h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> bblfish to check
on Monday 2nd of Nov. for SUN space for Social Web open day
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action02</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> DKA to
communicate Monday->Tuesday switch for SWXG. [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action03</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> hhalpin needs to
convert previous minutes into HTML via some script [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> mcarvalh to write
up David Raggett's guest talk on context, delegated privacy
providers, and so on. [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action18">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action18</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> melvster to write
up David Raggett's guest talk on context, delegated privacy
providers, and so on. [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action17">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action17</a>]<br />
<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> adam to write
up the boeing use case for enterprise social networks [recorded
in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action09">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action09</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> bblfish to
merge Family and Group access usecases. [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action15">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action15</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> bblfish to
relabel data protection use case to be about controlled access
and takedown to data "about" you [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action14">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action14</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> danbri and
karl to contact Evan of identi.ca over OpenMicroblogging and W3C.
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action07</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> danbri to
find someone from Opera to talk Widgets [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action06</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> DKA to
summarize OSLO and geoLocation conversation in order to spread
knowledge of these efforts among W3C members [recorded in
<a href="http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action04">
http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action04</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> hhalpin
explain to henry and oshani doc editing process for usecase
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action16">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action16</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Mischa to
describe/implement a report of terms and conditions, and how they
change between now and the end of the XG. [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action05</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> oshani to
flesh out "Intransitivity of Policies Applied to Social Network
Data" [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action13">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action13</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Oshani to
merge document takedown with time-related takedown "forget this
in ten years" and more general concept of data removal. [recorded
in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action11">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action11</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> oshani to
reframe the geolocation/intent/portability [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action12">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action12</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Renato and
DanBri and hhalpin to schedule DataPortability.org/XMPP [recorded
in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action08</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> rreck to
flesh out anonymous usecase connecting to multiple identies and
null provenance [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action10">http://www.w3.org/2009/09/16-swxg-minutes.html#action10</a>]<br />
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