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			<a name="Logistics" id="Logistics"></a><h2> <span class="mw-headline"> Logistics </span></h2>
<ul><li> See also: <a href="http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/BarcelonaLogistic" class="external free" title="http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/BarcelonaLogistic" rel="nofollow">http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/BarcelonaLogistic</a>
</li><li> Zakim:
<ul><li> Bridge US: +1-617-761-6200 | FR: +33.4.89.06.34.99 | UK: +44.117.370.6152
</li><li> Conference code: 3724# (spells "FRAG")
</li><li> IRC channel: #mediafrag on irc.w3.org:6665
</li></ul>
</li><li> Room:&nbsp;??
<ul><li> Presents: Raphael, Erik, Davy, Jack, Conrad, Michael, Dave, Frank (Canon Observer), Guillaume 
</li><li> Remotes (on phone): Yves, Silvia
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<a name="Thursday_2009-04-16.2C_09:00-18:00" id="Thursday_2009-04-16.2C_09:00-18:00"></a><h2> <span class="mw-headline"> Thursday 2009-04-16, 09:00-18:00 </span></h2>
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<td width="15%"> 09:00 - 09:30
</td><td width="85%"> Administrative: coffee, agenda, etc.
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<td> 09:30 - 11:00
</td><td> Yves/Silvia/Conrad: <b>Specification discussion</b>
<ul><li> discuss the story of the single-step vs dual-step partial GET (aka 2-ways, 4-ways handshake);
<ul><li> discuss the <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Apr/0075.html" class="external text" title="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Apr/0075.html" rel="nofollow">Silvia's proposal</a>: new headers Accept-TimeURI, Accept-SpaceURI, Accept-TrackURI and Accept-NameURI;
</li><li> discuss <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Apr/0103.html" class="external text" title="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Apr/0103.html" rel="nofollow">Yves's proposal</a>: a GET of the media header (so a few bytes, depending on how much is enough), and the server answers with that + one or more Link: headers linking to different mappings (time to bytes is an example) or at least a resolver URI, linking to the sub-resource, to parent etc...
</li><li> discuss the pro/cons of each solution
</li></ul>
</li><li> check with the evolving <a href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-nottingham-http-link-header-04" class="external text" title="http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-nottingham-http-link-header-04" rel="nofollow">link header draft</a>;
</li><li> Yves: present the clarifications of <a href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-httpbis-p5-range-06" class="external text" title="http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-httpbis-p5-range-06" rel="nofollow">HTTPBis</a>.
</li></ul>
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<td> 11:00 - 11:30
</td><td> <b>Refreshment Break</b>
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<td> 11:30 - 13:00
</td><td> Jack/Davy: <b>Implementation Reports</b>
<ul><li> Davy: present and demo our software that allows to slide media files independently of the codec format
</li><li> Jack: discuss issues discovered during implementation
</li><li> Davy: discuss my RTSP implementation
</li></ul>
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<td> 13:00 - 14:00
</td><td> <b>Lunch</b>
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<td> 14:00 - 15:30
</td><td> Erik/Raphael: <b>WD Publication</b>
<ul><li> discuss the overall quality of our FPWD: <a href="http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-reqs/" class="external text" title="http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-reqs/" rel="nofollow">Use cases and requirements for Media Fragments</a>
</li><li> go through the <a href="http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-reqs/#fitness-table" class="external text" title="http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-reqs/#fitness-table" rel="nofollow">fitness table</a> and add a note justifying each <b>fit</b>
</li><li> discuss total number of documents, companion document for the technology survey, WG Note, etc.
</li></ul>
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<td> 15:30 - 16:00
</td><td> <b>Refreshment Break</b>
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<td> 16:00 - 18:00
</td><td> Media Annotations WG joint meeting
<ul><li> see <a href="http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/Meeting_Agenda_(In_Progress)" class="external text" title="http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/Meeting_Agenda_(In_Progress)" rel="nofollow">their agenda</a>
</li><li> next F2F meeting: <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2009Apr/0047.html" class="external text" title="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2009Apr/0047.html" rel="nofollow">proposal from Joakim</a> (Ericsson) to host it in Stockholm (Sweden)
</li></ul>
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<a name="Friday_2009-04-17.2C_09:00-17:00" id="Friday_2009-04-17.2C_09:00-17:00"></a><h2> <span class="mw-headline"> Friday 2009-04-17, 09:00-17:00 </span></h2>
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<td> 09:30 - 11:00
</td><td> ALL: <b>Issues Discussion</b>
<ul><li> <a href="http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/4" class="external text" title="http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/4" rel="nofollow">ISSUE-4</a>: track selection
</li><li> <a href="http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/5" class="external text" title="http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/5" rel="nofollow">ISSUE-5</a>: spatial cropping
</li><li> <a href="http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/6" class="external text" title="http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/6" rel="nofollow">ISSUE-6</a>: transcoding for temporal clipping
</li><li> <a href="http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/3" class="external text" title="http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/3" rel="nofollow">ISSUE-3</a>: media fragment semantics
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<td> 11:00 - 11:30
</td><td> <b>Refreshment Break</b>
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<td> 11:30 - 13:00
</td><td> Michael: <b>Test Cases</b>
<ul><li> Discuss nature of test cases
</li><li> Plan elaboration of the test cases and documentation
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<td> 13:00 - 14:00
</td><td> <b>Lunch</b>
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<td> 14:00 - 15:30
</td><td> TBD
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<td> 15:30 - 16:00
</td><td> <b>Refreshment Break</b>
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<td> 16:00 - 17:00
</td><td> ALL: <b>Wrap up</b>
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