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<h1>- DRAFT -</h1>
<h1>Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference</h1>
<h2>24 Feb 2010</h2>
<p><a href=
'http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010Feb/0072.html'>
Agenda</a></p>
<p>See also: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-irc">IRC log</a></p>
<h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>
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<dl>
<dt>Present</dt>
<dd>yves, michael, davy, erik, silvia</dd>
<dt>Regrets</dt>
<dd>raphael</dd>
<dt>Chair</dt>
<dd>erik</dd>
<dt>Scribe</dt>
<dd>erik, davy</dd>
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<h2>Contents</h2>
<ul>
<li>
<a href="#agenda">Topics</a>
<ol>
<li><a href="#item01">Admin</a></li>
<li><a href="#item02">3. SPECIFICATION:</a></li>
<li><a href="#item03">4. TEST CASES</a></li>
<li><a href="#item04">3.1 Media Fragment URI
syntax</a></li>
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</li>
<li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
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<p class='phone'></p>
<p class='phone'></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Date: 24 February
2010</p>
<h3 id="item01">Admin</h3>
<p class='irc'><<cite>davy</cite>> scribenick: erik</p>
<p class='phone'>Accept the minutes at <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/02/17-mediafrag-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2010/02/17-mediafrag-minutes.html</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>davy</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='phone'>+1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>davy</cite>> scribenick: davy</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Erik:</cite> charter extension:
everything fine, but milestones need to be adjusted</p><a name=
"action01" id="action01"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> raphael to adjust the milestones in
the charter [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Sorry, couldn't
find user - raphael</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>> ah, thanks :-)</p>
<h3 id="item02">3. SPECIFICATION:</h3><a name="action02" id=
"action02"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> troncy to adjust the milestones in the
charter [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-145
- Adjust the milestones in the charter [on Raphaël Troncy - due
2010-03-03].</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>> ... actually on the
group front page since we cannot change the charter, but the
charter refers to the group home page for the changes</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> action-143?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-143 --
Silvia Pfeiffer to move 5.1.5 into a new section -- due
2010-02-24 -- OPEN</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/143">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/143</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> action-144?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-144 --
Silvia Pfeiffer to move the section 5.1.1 to the top -- due
2010-02-24 -- OPEN</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/144">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/144</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> not done yet</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> neither that one</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> I promised it for
F2F</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> ok, actions still
going on</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>erik:</cite> status about changes in the
header syntax?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>yves:</cite> made modifications in the
wiki regarding philip's remarks<br />
... only do it in the spec if we switch back to ABNF</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>jack:</cite> I'm fine with either ABNF
or EBNF</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>yves:</cite> I have tools for ABNF
only</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>jack:</cite> no reason why we switched
to EBNF, I don't see an advantage to use EBNF</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> I don't mind either
- if you prefer to switch back to ABNF, go for it</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> I think Philip found
it easier to write, but that doesn't have to influence everyone
else</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>jack:</cite> if Yves prefers ABNF, then
I also prefer ABNF</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>yves:</cite> will continue in ABNF<br />
... also create a section where all the ABNF is located
together<br />
... having a single view of the grammar</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>erik:</cite> propose to use ABNF to
represent the grammar</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>jackjansen</cite>> PROPOSAL:
dtddadada??? Ok, +1 :-)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>jackjansen</cite>> I know...</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>PROPOSAL:</cite> use ABNF to represent
the grammar, because of the existence of tools</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='phone'>+1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>jackjansen</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='phone'><strong class='resolution'>RESOLUTION: ABNF
will be used to represent the grammar</strong></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>yves:</cite> a-126 is still
ongoing<br />
... should be able to do it today</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> while you're at it,
can you look at writing ABNF for the HTTP headers, too?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> yep</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> that's the plan</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>erik:</cite> a-135 is still ongoing</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>jack:</cite> a-137 is also ongoing</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> see note in 5.2.2
and 5.2.3</p>
<p class='phone'>issue-5?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ISSUE-5 --
Handling spatial cropping requires information at client-side
-- OPEN</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/5">http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/5</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>erik:</cite> we must asap reach LC<br />
... if this is only with the temporal dimension, so be it</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>jackjansen</cite>> silvia, can you
re-raise in AOB?</p>
<h3 id="item03">4. TEST CASES</h3>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> ACTION-118?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-118 --
Michael Hausenblas to come up with individual 'normal' test
cases (+/- 20) -- due 2009-10-07 -- OPEN</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/118">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/118</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>> I second silvia
question, re: quotes in the syntax</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>> Silvia, please,
write your comments not in /me</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> re: ABNF - are we
dropping the quotes on the fragment values?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> just FYI - the "s"
in npt dimension has already been dropped in spec</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>jackjansen</cite>> silvia, we first
continue with 4, then get to 3.5</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>michael:</cite> a-118 continues untill
next week</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> ACTION-108?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-108 --
Michael Hausenblas to add the missing test cases in corrib --
due 2009-11-16 -- OPEN</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/108">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/108</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> close
ACTION-108</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-108 Add the
missing test cases in corrib closed</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> <a href=
"http://ld2sd.deri.org/corrib/">http://ld2sd.deri.org/corrib/</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010Feb/0019.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010Feb/0019.html</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>michael:</cite> we can review them one
by one</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> indeed - I was going
to ask if people had had the time to check out those test cases
for the time dimension</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>jack:</cite> are the test cases already
in a state that we can see that all the boundary cases can be
seen</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> can we focus on time
dimension for now and check there that we have all the boundary
cases?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> michael: focus is on
temporal dimension only</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>michael:</cite> not totally sure, there
might be at least a couple of test cases that are not yet
covered</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>jack:</cite> I will look at it</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> in my list I
abstracted away from concrete values into t=a,b</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> then I looked at the
values that a and b can take compared to each other and
compared to start, end of file</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> in this way, I tried
capturing all the possibilities</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> these are all no
errors:</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> * Non-errors:
b>=a</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> t=a,b -> 200: set
playback to a-b</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> t=a, -> 200: set
playback to a-end</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> t=,b -> 200: set
playback to start-b</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> t=a,b with a=b ->
200: set playback to a</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> t=a,b with
a<start -> 200: set playback to start-b</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> t=a,b with a>end
-> 200: set playback to end</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> t=a,b with b>end
-> 200: set playback to a-end</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> t=a,b with
b<start -> 200: set playback to start</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>michael:</cite> in the F2F, we should
make a final decision regarding the test cases of temporal
fragments</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>jack:</cite> I missed b > end</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> Michael: will
add t=a,b with b>end and t=a,b with b<start</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>jack:</cite> also miss b<a</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>jackjansen</cite>> silvia, both</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> it's in the list
above</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> we're looking
at corrib ATM, but jackjansen referred to in general</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> b>end is, the
other is in an error list</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> * non-existent</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> example: t=b,a with
b>a (e.g. t=20,10)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> -> 200: ignore
fragment</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>michael:</cite> it's easy to add/edit
test cases in corrib<br />
... everyone can do it</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> and I also have this
one that we haven't had before:</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> * Validity errors:
value cannot be parsed for dimension</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> example: t=asdf</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> -> 200: ignore
fragment (retrieve full resource, but with this adapted
URL)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> note: browsers
already do this</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> further, I think we
need to change TC0002</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> * TC0002: empty time
segment - npt (see also above)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> examples: t=0,0 ;
t=3,3</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> -> 200: retrieve
whatever the browser needs to set up playback and</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> set the playback
position to the offset</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> NOTE: this is
different to what we currently have at</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/TestCases">http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/TestCases</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> silivia, you're
aware of that you can edit TC in corrib yourself?</p><a name=
"action03" id="action03"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Jack to identify and add in corrib any
missing test cases for temporal fragments [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-146
- Identify and add in corrib any missing test cases for
temporal fragments [on Jack Jansen - due 2010-03-03].</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> I thought we are
discussing here whether we agree on those test cases and their
results</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> the reason for my
questions / list was that I wanted these in the spec as well as
in corrib, so developers can refer to it</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> silvia, I'll
change the ownership re TC10-17 to you soon</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> michael: 'contributor'
= 'one who raised the TC'</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> hmm, according to
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/TestCases">http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/TestCases</a>
they are multi dimensional - wasn't really focused on that
yet</p><a name="action04" id="action04"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> mhausenb to add all MF WG members to
corrib [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action04</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-147
- Add all MF WG members to corrib [on Michael Hausenblas - due
2010-03-03].</p><a name="action05" id="action05"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> mhausenb to add a copy TC
functionality [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action05</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-148
- Add a copy TC functionality [on Michael Hausenblas - due
2010-03-03].</p><a name="action06" id="action06"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> mhausenb to come up with a fix for
overview vs. edit single TC [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action06</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-149
- Come up with a fix for overview vs. edit single TC [on
Michael Hausenblas - due 2010-03-03].</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>jack:</cite> if we change the syntax,
then someone needs to be responsible to modify the related test
cases</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> Michael: there
is also an issue tracker for corrib in case you find a bug or
want to request a feature</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> ... <a href=
"http://bitbucket.org/mhausenblas/corrib/issues/?status=new&status=open">
http://bitbucket.org/mhausenblas/corrib/issues/?status=new&status=open</a></p>
<h3 id="item04">3.1 Media Fragment URI syntax</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>erik:</cite> do we keep the quotes
around track names and ids?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> p</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> also see: <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/ublic-media-fragment/2010Feb/0071.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/ublic-media-fragment/2010Feb/0071.html</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>jack:</cite> percent escapes of ? and
& seems to work in the browser<br />
... which indicates that we do need quotes (on condition that
we have percent escaping)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> ... reinvestigation is
still needed!</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> which philip
introduced into the spec</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> oh!</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> jack: syntax of ? and
# should be the same</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>jack:</cite> we should first investigate
how percent encoding works</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> jack: what about
client vs serverside ... should be the same at both sides</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> <a href=
"http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986#section-2.1">http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986#section-2.1</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> and <a href=
"http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986#section-2.4">http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986#section-2.4</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>yves:</cite> before doing
percent-encoding, the url is split up</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>jackjansen</cite>> If I compare
section 2.1 to what I posted to the mailing list then it seems
the behaviousr I saw is wrong.</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> yves: URI-syntax is
not clear on what should be returned on client or server ....
therefore no ambiguity if we use quotes</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>jackjansen</cite>> 2.4 states that
even more clearly</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> according to
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percent-encoding">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percent-encoding</a>,
last section, only the names and values of a CGI query are
encoded</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>yves:</cite> quotes remove ambiguity</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>jack:</cite> so youtube is not compliant
to RFC3986?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>jackjansen</cite>> This works:
<a href=
"http://www.youtube.com/watch%3fv=FwJduPtCvSM%26feature=rec-r2-2r-1-HM">
http://www.youtube.com/watch%3fv=FwJduPtCvSM%26feature=rec-r2-2r-1-HM</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>jackjansen</cite>> and it
shouldn't</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> my friend re
URIs is <a href=
"http://www.websitedev.de/temp/rfc3986-check.html.gz">http://www.websitedev.de/temp/rfc3986-check.html.gz</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>jackjansen</cite>> So, it seems
that rfc3986 isn't followed by at least one major site</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> lets you check
stuff quite nicely</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> I think the "Under
normal circumstances" part is important</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>jackjansen</cite>> ref?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> I think in essence
rfc3986 lets every server do what it wants</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>jackjansen</cite>> got it</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> link above -
<a href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986#section-2.4">http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986#section-2.4</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> but it suggests
parsing before percent encoding</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> to make it easier
for the server to determine the components</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> doesn't stop a
server from trying to interpret a url that has more than just
the components url encoded</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> I think we can
safely prescribe url encoding the way Philip has currently done
it and it follows section 2.4</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>jackjansen</cite>> I am not sure I
agree. I am not convinced that we can remove the quotes for
queries.</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> that is a different
matter altoghether, I think</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> what problem do the
quotes solve?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>jackjansen</cite>> escaping
ampersands</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>jackjansen</cite>> eric??</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> I seem to remember
having had a problem where the quotes introduced more confusion
than helped, but cannot now find it</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> anyway, I guess
we're out of time :)</p><a name="action07" id="action07"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Erik to summarize the discussion on
the quotes in a mail or on the wiki [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action07</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-150
- Summarize the discussion on the quotes in a mail or on the
wiki [on Erik Mannens - due 2010-03-03].</p>
<p class='phone'>[adjourned]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>jackjansen</cite>> bye!</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> thanks everyone!</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> btw: we're only
talking about quotes for track and id dimensions, right?</p>
<p class='phone'>yup</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> davy: is your
implementation using quotes?</p>
<p class='phone'>yes</p>
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<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Erik to summarize
the discussion on the quotes in a mail or on the wiki [recorded
in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action07</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Jack to identify
and add in corrib any missing test cases for temporal fragments
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> mhausenb to add a
copy TC functionality [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action05</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> mhausenb to add
all MF WG members to corrib [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action04</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> mhausenb to come
up with a fix for overview vs. edit single TC [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action06</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> raphael to adjust
the milestones in the charter [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> troncy to adjust
the milestones in the charter [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02</a>]<br />
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