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<h1>- DRAFT -</h1>
<h1>MAWG</h1>
<h2>18 May 2010</h2>
<p><a href=
'http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010May/0030.html'>
Agenda</a></p>
<p>See also: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/05/18-mediaann-irc">IRC log</a></p>
<h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>
<div class="intro">
<dl>
<dt>Present</dt>
<dd>Joakim, wonsuk, daniel, john, fsasaki, chris,
Veronique</dd>
<dt>Regrets</dt>
<dd>Werner, Tobias, florian</dd>
<dt>Chair</dt>
<dd>Daniel</dd>
<dt>Scribe</dt>
<dd>Joakim</dd>
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<h2>Contents</h2>
<ul>
<li>
<a href="#agenda">Topics</a>
<ol>
<li><a href="#item01">Minutes from last meeting</a></li>
<li><a href="#item02">Open Actions Items</a></li>
<li><a href="#item03">Status of Ontology Doc</a></li>
<li><a href="#item04">Status on API doc</a></li>
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</li>
<li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
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<div class="meeting">
<p class='phone'></p>
<p class='phone'></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> Scribe: Joakim</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>daniel</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/05/18-mediaann-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2010/05/18-mediaann-minutes.html</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>daniel</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/05/11-mediaann-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2010/05/11-mediaann-minutes.html</a></p>
<h3 id="item01">Minutes from last meeting</h3>
<p class='phone'>Minutes from last meeting approved</p>
<p class='phone'>Next telecon June 25</p>
<h3 id="item02">Open Actions Items</h3>
<p class='phone'>Keep Action 214 open</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>close:</cite> 225</p>
<p class='phone'>close Action- 225</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>close:</cite> Action-225</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>fsasaki</cite>> close
ACTION-225</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-225
Inclusion of mapping table into ontology document closed</p>
<p class='phone'>234 keep open</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>close:</cite> ACTION-236</p>
<p class='phone'>close ACTION-236</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-236 Make
table 4.1.2 same format as the mapping table (using the same
template) closed</p>
<p class='phone'>close ACTION-237</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-237
examples missing for getDiagnosis, getOriginalData,
getSourceFormatsWithValues, selectMAResource closed</p>
<p class='phone'>close ACTION-238</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-238 Add
example regarding column 11 closed</p>
<p class='phone'>close ACTION-250</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-250 Prepare
a document containing the examples from thes introduction (to
be used for test cases) closed</p>
<p class='phone'>close ACTION-251</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-251 Supply
jpeg images with exif closed</p>
<p class='phone'><a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/NightOnEarthMPEG7">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/NightOnEarthMPEG7</a></p>
<p class='phone'>close ACTION-253</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-253 Provide
mpeg-7 describing a movie closed</p>
<h3 id="item03">Status of Ontology Doc</h3>
<p class='irc'><<cite>wonsuk</cite>> The diff version
between the result of Vienna f2f meeting and the last one:
<a href=
"http://tinyurl.com/2er68a5">http://tinyurl.com/2er68a5</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Daniel:</cite> to communicate with
thierry regarding publication</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>fsasaki</cite>> Felix: for LC
preparation you need to have a record of a vote for the LC
publication, and somebody to prepare the document. That will be
Thierry I guess</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>veronique</cite>> I still don't
understand what this means (identifier:URI), (type:String)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>daniel</cite>> <a href=
"http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-1.0/mediaont-1.0.html">
http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-1.0/mediaont-1.0.html</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Wonsuk:</cite> Has incorprated the text
fr�n John and Joakim into the ontology</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Veronique:</cite> Do we really define an
ontology according to the definition?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>fsasaki</cite>> +1 to Veronique's
proposal</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Veronique:</cite> Add one sentence to
the definition that explains the difference between the
scientific meaning of an ontology to what we present<br />
... Will send a sentence to the mailing list later to day!</p>
<p class='phone'>Q: do we have to cerate an URL to our
namespace?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>fsasaki</cite>> Felix: you need to
create a namespace document</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>fsasaki</cite>> I will paste the
URI for the explanation in IRC in a second</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>fsasaki</cite>> Felix: Thierry
should also take care of that</p>
<p class='phone'>But we can do that after LC?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>fsasaki</cite>> Felix: no, normally
not</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>fsasaki</cite>> Felix: better check
with Thierry</p><a name="action01" id="action01"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Joakim to create a namespace doc
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/05/18-mediaann-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2010/05/18-mediaann-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-259
- Create a namespace doc [on Joakim Söderberg - due
2010-05-25].</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>fsasaki</cite>> Felix: document
about namespace documents is at <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-nsuri">http://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-nsuri</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>veronique:</cite> why do we want
represent position with lon,lat<br />
... don't understand: maidentifier format</p>
<p class='phone'>Explain Chris, Wonsuk</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>veronique:</cite> should altidude not be
optional!</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Wonsuk:</cite> it is!</p>
<p class='phone'>werner and wonsuk have added some explanation
for the sub-type in 4.2.</p>
<p class='phone'>added a short senctnece about the API doc</p>
<p class='phone'>Wonsuk has integrated the mapping pages as
static pages into the doc</p>
<p class='phone'>I dont have MAYA set up on my new computer</p>
<p class='phone'>Can someone help out?</p>
<p class='phone'>Thanks Wonsuk:-)</p>
<p class='phone'>Problem with CL and EBU tables</p>
<p class='phone'>Wonsuk revised the references by moving some
ref from nor to non-nor</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Daniel:</cite> Issues about the
Onotology Doc: small sentence from Ver and remove empty
columns!</p>
<p class='phone'>any more issues?</p>
<p class='phone'>John should elaborate on the conformance
part</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>veronique</cite>> "In this
recommendation, the vocabulary in question is the list of core
properties (relationships) defined in the ma namespace, and the
machine-readable format is not specified here: the
recommendation provides a simple text description and
definition of the relationships. An implementation of the
vocabulary in RDF has been developed in the MAWG RDF? task
force [REF]. Implementations in different formats are
nevertheless allowed."</p>
<p class='phone'>There are two AP that John will carry out when
Wonsuk is ready</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>veronique</cite>> how about this
ad-on?</p>
<p class='phone'>is it possible to this week</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Johan:</cite> Possibly during the
weekend</p>
<h3 id="item04">Status on API doc</h3>
<p class='irc'><<cite>daniel</cite>> <a href=
"http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-api-1.0/mediaont-api-1.0.html">
http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-api-1.0/mediaont-api-1.0.html</a></p>
<p class='phone'>what has change in the last version, is that
Chris has added examples on how to use the API</p>
<p class='phone'>now the outline is: introduction, how it
works, the we list all the interfaces and for each we give an
example</p>
<p class='phone'>examples are in JS and as for a WS</p>
<p class='phone'>have added the error codes to the document</p>
<p class='phone'>According to Chris the Doc is ready for
LC,</p>
<p class='phone'>his only concern is that it doesn't look good
in IE</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Wonsuk:</cite> DAP: Usually update the
draft, but when they publish they do some differetn version for
publication, so IE can read that version</p><a name="action02"
id="action02"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Joakim to ask thierry of how to make a
version that works woth IE [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/05/18-mediaann-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2010/05/18-mediaann-minutes.html#action02</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-260
- Ask thierry of how to make a version that works woth IE [on
Joakim Söderberg - due 2010-05-25].</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>wonsuk:</cite> there are some errors in
the document, check that with W3C team contact</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Daniel:</cite> we need some (HTML)
validation of our document before going to LC</p>
<p class='phone'>Daniel and Joakim will contact THIERRY for
validation before LC</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Daniel:</cite> are there any other open
issues</p>
<p class='phone'>Some open issues before LC. ontology: english
improvement by John, sentence from Veronique, mapping table
errors</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>API:</cite> is ok, but has to be HTML
validated</p>
<p class='phone'>Wonsuk can yoy please add Ver sentence to the
ontology doc?</p>
<p class='phone'>thanks!</p>
<p class='phone'>AOB`?</p>
<p class='phone'>meeting to be adjourned!</p>
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<h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Joakim to ask
thierry of how to make a version that works woth IE [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/05/18-mediaann-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2010/05/18-mediaann-minutes.html#action02</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Joakim to create
a namespace doc [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/05/18-mediaann-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2010/05/18-mediaann-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br />
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