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  <h1>Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference</h1>

  <h2>05 May 2010</h2>

  <p><a href=
  'http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010May/0005.html'>
  Agenda</a></p>

  <p>See also: <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2010/05/05-mediafrag-irc">IRC log</a></p>

  <h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>

  <div class="intro">
    <dl>
      <dt>Present</dt>

      <dd>+49.300.aaaa, +0329331aabb, Erik</dd>

      <dt>Regrets</dt>

      <dd>Michael, Jack, Conrad, Davy</dd>

      <dt>Chair</dt>

      <dd>Raphael</dd>

      <dt>Scribe</dt>

      <dd>raphael</dd>
    </dl>
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  <h2>Contents</h2>

  <ul>
    <li><a href="#agenda">Topics</a></li>

    <li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
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    <p class='phone'></p>

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    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Date: 05 May
    2010</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> 15 min waiting, no sign
    of Yves, all others have sent regrets :-(<br />
    ... no need for Silvia for dialing<br />
    ... suggest to cancel the telecon<br />
    ... express deep concern about the lack of progress<br />
    ... 14 overdue actions, how should we deal with that?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; you will need to
    chase up ppl directly</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; not just through the
    meeting, but during the week</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; it's not happening
    otherwise</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; I guess that's part
    of a chair's job, as unfortunate as it is</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; btw: how was the
    conference?</p>

    <p class='phone'>Erik and I did chase the people all over this
    week ... emailing and phoning!</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; oh wow</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; can some actions be
    re-distributed?</p>

    <p class='phone'>It is not enough apparently :-(</p>

    <p class='phone'>This is what I think we should do</p>

    <p class='phone'>Yves is apparently in forced holidays until
    end of May ... but told us he would be able to work anyway</p>

    <p class='phone'>The WWW conference was great, media fragments
    was presented twice, during the Developer's Track and during
    the HTML5 track</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>scribe:</cite> slides are online:
    <a href=
    "http://www.slideshare.net/troncy/implementing-the-media-fragments-uri-specification">
    http://www.slideshare.net/troncy/implementing-the-media-fragments-uri-specification</a></p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; good feedback?</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>scribe:</cite> Davy made twice the
    Ninsuna demo</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; did you present all
    cases, also the one Yves is still working on?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; ohhhh - you should
    have put the Mozilla logo on for me, not Vquence</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; but never mind
    :)</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>scribe:</cite> very good feedback from
    the participants, yes we present the 4 scenarios</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; any concerns by
    ppl?</p>

    <p class='phone'>[meeting adjourned]</p>

    <p class='phone'>people were enthousiastic with the work
    done</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; excellent</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>scribe:</cite> I have also shown the
    Firefox plugin we are developing in EURECOM, and that I hope to
    release very soon</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; could Davy record
    his demo and publish the screencast somewhere (youtube?)</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; oh nice!</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; same request there -
    do make a screencast!</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>scribe:</cite> we had another great idea
    with Davy: that I could have a parameter in my plugin to proxy
    the request for media fragments towards Ninsuna<br />
    ... so that for any videos, if you decide to proxy it ... then
    you can get Ninunsa serving you media fragments of any
    videos<br />
    ... of course, if ALl the web does that, poor Davy's mcahine
    will be killed, but for a demo purpose, it could be great<br />
    ... good idea for the screencast, I believe indeed we should
    make one</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; hahaha - poor
    Davy!</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; yeah, screencasts
    will give you exposure to a larger audience</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; they will also
    explain better what should happen</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; I think it will be
    easy to explain to the browser vendors what to implement</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; I'd just like to
    resolve to error cases before moving it forward</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; I might start an
    email discussion on the mailing list for it - seems that might
    get us a little progress at least</p>

    <p class='phone'>yep, I mention a patch currently submitted to
    Mozilla by Dailymotion for better interaction with the media
    player of the browser if receiving just video fragment</p>

    <p class='phone'>I will comment as well on your action 161</p>

    <p class='phone'>tonight most likely</p>

    <p class='phone'>need to get some work done! and more
    important, get in touch with Yves to see whether we should
    re-allocate his actions NOW or not</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; yeah - I'd be happy
    to work on some of them</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; what's Dailymotion's
    patch?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; it implements media
    fragments?</p>

    <p class='phone'>yeah, before we made it :-)</p>

    <p class='phone'>Dailymotion has made its implementation of
    media fragments, slightly different syntax, and keep it secret
    :-)</p>

    <p class='phone'>now, they will be full W3C spec compliant</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; oh! how is it
    different?</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>scribe:</cite> they submitted a patch a
    year ago to mozilla, for the issues we are talking about, but
    the patch has not yet been included in the main release</p>

    <p class='phone'>I need to find the number and relaunch the
    process, I'm working on that with DM</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; cool</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; I can get the right
    ppl to look at it if you point me to it</p>

    <p class='phone'>ok, good to know, I will first find the patch
    in the mozilla trunk and then, once I got the URI, get in touch
    with you :-)</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; cool</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; caption support is
    going into HTML5 as we speak</p>

    <p class='phone'>my student, developing the media fragments ff
    plugin, might ask you some questions too</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; chapter tracks,
    too</p>

    <p class='phone'>yep, I noticed the news :-)</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; and the javascript
    api</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; then we will be able
    to address by name, too</p>

    <p class='phone'>wonderful, it is moving forward</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; sure, go ahead with
    any questions</p>

    <p class='phone'>great, I let you have your dinner, I need to
    have some work _done_ :-)</p>

    <p class='phone'>Talk to you next week, hopefully !</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; just prepared the
    schnitzel</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; will now have to
    cook them!</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; yeah - let's hope we
    have some progress then</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; ciao!</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt; scribenick:
    raphael</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; good talking with
    you, btw ;)</p>
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  <h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
  Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
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