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<h1>- DRAFT -</h1>
<h1>W3C Multimedia Semantics XG - Telecon 12-10-2006, 16:00
UTC</h1>
<h2>12 Oct 2006</h2>
<p><a href=
'http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Oct/0013.html'>
Agenda</a></p>
<p>See also: <a href="http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-irc">IRC
log</a></p>
<h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>
<div class="intro">
<dl>
<dt>Present</dt>
<dd>Raphael, Michael_Hausenblas, Thomas_Franz, Chris,
Thierry_Declerck, George, Melli, Stamatia, Suzanne, Vassilis,
Jeff_Pan, Yannis, Patrizia_Asirelli, IoannisPratikakis(IRC),
rellero(IRC)</dd>
<dt>Regrets</dt>
<dd>Jacco, Paola, Ovidio, Pasquale</dd>
<dt>Chair</dt>
<dd>JeffP</dd>
<dt>Scribe</dt>
<dd>raphael</dd>
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<h2>Contents</h2>
<ul>
<li>
<a href="#agenda">Topics</a>
<ol>
<li><a href="#item01">ADMIN</a></li>
<li><a href="#item02">LIAISON</a></li>
<li><a href="#item03">XG UPDATES</a></li>
<li><a href="#item04">Music Use Case</a></li>
<li><a href="#item05">Biomedical use case</a></li>
<li><a href="#item06">MPEG-7 metadata interoperability use
case</a></li>
<li><a href="#item07">NewsML use case</a></li>
<li><a href="#item08">Semantic Multimedia Retrieval Use
case</a></li>
<li><a href="#item09">Photo Use Case</a></li>
<li><a href="#item10">Tagging use case</a></li>
<li><a href="#item11">Algorithm representation Use
case</a></li>
<li><a href="#item12">FUTURE MEETINGS</a></li>
<li><a href="#item13">AOB</a></li>
</ol>
</li>
<li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
</ul>
<hr />
<div class="meeting">
<p class='phone'> </p>
<p class='phone'> </p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> Scribe: raphael</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>rellero__</cite>> Hi, i'm sorry can
connect only in irc today</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>patriziaasirelli</cite>> Hi all,
from Patrizia, Massimo & Suzanne</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>IoannisPratikakis</cite>> hello
from Athens</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>SusanneBoll</cite>> Susanne
Boll</p>
<h3 id="item01">ADMIN</h3>
<p class='irc'><<cite>patriziaasirelli</cite>> I am
having problem with my telephone I shall riconnect in a
minute</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chalaschek</cite>> none here</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>thomas</cite>> accept it</p>
<p class='phone'>Minutes of the 02 October 2006 telecon:
ACCEPTED</p>
<p class='phone'>including the decisions taken</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chalaschek</cite>> none here</p>
<p class='phone'>Next telecon 26 October 2006: ACCEPTED</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>anadiotis</cite>> zakim mute me</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> one remark wrt
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Liaison">http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Liaison</a>
- looks orphaned</p>
<h3 id="item02">LIAISON</h3>
<p class='irc'><<cite>SusanneBoll</cite>> Thanks, I read
it and will contribute to is the next weeks</p>
<p class='phone'>Vcaularies page maintained: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Vocabularies">http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Vocabularies</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>vassilis</cite>> Patriccia: where
to put the comments?</p><a name="action01" id="action01"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Michael to maintain the Vocabularies
Page: CONTINUED [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p><a name="action02"
id="action02"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Pasquale to maintain the Resources
Page: CONTINUED [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action02</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> yeah: let us go
for a DOAP</p><a name="action03" id="action03"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Giovanni to maintain the Tool page:
CONTINUED [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action03</a>]</p>
<p class='phone'>using DOAP file ?</p>
<h3 id="item03">XG UPDATES</h3>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chalaschek</cite>> yep thats
done</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Melli</cite>> I will do this very
soon as well</p><a name="action04" id="action04"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Thierry, Paul, Melli to do their wiki
page [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action04</a>]</p><a name="action05"
id="action05"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Ovidio, Stamatia to review [recorded
in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action05</a>]</p>
<p class='phone'><a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/MM/image_annotation.html">
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/MM/image_annotation.html</a>
before</p>
<p class='phone'>mid October teleconf</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> DONE</p><a name=
"action06" id="action06"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Raphael addresses the comments on
"Image Annotation on the Semantic Web document" by next telecon
change the css style (XG report) change the syntax of the
examples (N3) and the graphs (IsaViz) [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action06</a>]</p>
<p class='phone'>Similarities between use cases according
Patrizia</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Patrizia:</cite> do not real address
multimedia problems</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> chairs: I plan
to propose a new UC today: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Building_multimedial_Semantic_Web_Applications">
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Building_multimedial_Semantic_Web_Applications</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> this one also
addresses some of Patrizias issues</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>JeffP</cite>> Patrizia: multimedia
means there are multiple media ...</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>JeffP</cite>> but not just one kind
of media</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>rellero__</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/appendixA.html#multimediadef">http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/appendixA.html#multimediadef</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>JeffP</cite>> [Anyone who want to
join the discussion can simply tyle "q+" to join the queue]</p>
<h3 id="item04">Music Use Case</h3>
<p class='phone'>Giovanni is not here ...</p><a name="action07"
id="action07"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Giovanni, send an update status to the
list of this use case as soon as possible [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action07</a>]</p>
<h3 id="item05">Biomedical use case</h3>
<p class='phone'><a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/biomedical/medicalusecase.html">
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/biomedical/medicalusecase.html</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>IoannisPratikakis</cite>> it looks
a sound example</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chalaschek</cite>> is this metadata
represented using RDF or OWL? Or is this using another
format?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>iavr</cite>> :-)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>IoannisPratikakis</cite>> please,
at least scribe a summary of the conversations, otherwise
IRC-only participants cannot follow</p>
<p class='phone'>People now agree to use a subset of SNOMED for
annotating bio medical use cases</p>
<p class='phone'>if this is the case, problems partially
solved</p>
<p class='phone'>question: why using SW technologies ? and not
purely XML solutions</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Ex:</cite> people annotate pictures with
"mandibules" or the snomed ID, or the super concept JAW, etc
...</p>
<p class='phone'>might motivate the need for SW
technologies</p>
<h3 id="item06">MPEG-7 metadata interoperability use case</h3>
<p class='phone'>Interoperability problems inside MPEG-7</p>
<p class='phone'>different ways to say the same thing</p>
<p class='phone'>ontologizing MPEG-7 will not be enough</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Solution1:</cite> create syntactic and
semantic mappings (using OWL and SWRL)</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Solution2:</cite> K-Space approach
(linking domain ontology and core ontology)</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Solution3:</cite> using profiles</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Michael:</cite> distinction between
syntactic and semantic problems</p>
<h3 id="item07">NewsML use case</h3>
<p class='irc'><<cite>vassilis</cite>> raphael: a
representative from IPTC from next telecon</p><a name=
"action08" id="action08"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> raphael to add the NewsML entry on the
vocabularies wiki page by next telecon [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action08</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>vassilis</cite>> raphael: not yet
for review. from next teleon</p>
<h3 id="item08">Semantic Multimedia Retrieval Use case</h3>
<p class='phone'>Ioannis any update ?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>IoannisPratikakis</cite>> there is
an update wrt to the LLF UC</p>
<p class='phone'>postpone next telecon</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>IoannisPratikakis</cite>> please,
consult it and give feedback</p>
<h3 id="item09">Photo Use Case</h3>
<p class='phone'>similar to some extent to NewsML use case</p>
<h3 id="item10">Tagging use case</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>George:</cite> focus now on
interoperability issue, drop the others<br />
... work on existing tagging ontology</p>
<h3 id="item11">Algorithm representation Use case</h3>
<p class='phone'>no real update</p>
<p class='phone'>postpone to next telecon</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> I would like to
propose a new UC: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Building_multimedial_Semantic_Web_Applications">
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Building_multimedial_Semantic_Web_Applications</a></p>
<h3 id="item12">FUTURE MEETINGS</h3>
<p class='phone'>Nexf F2F meeting</p>
<p class='phone'>Please, fill the questionnaire at: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/39139/MMSEM-FTF02/">http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/39139/MMSEM-FTF02/</a></p>
<h3 id="item13">AOB</h3>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> New use case
proposed by Michael, everybody to comment</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>IoannisPratikakis</cite>> +q</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> Meeting: W3C
Multimedia Semantics XG - Telecon 12-10-2006, 16:00 UTC</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> Scribe: Raphael</p>
</div>
<h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Giovanni, send an
update status to the list of this use case as soon as possible
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action07</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Ovidio, Stamatia
to review [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action05</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Raphael addresses
the comments on "Image Annotation on the Semantic Web document"
by next telecon change the css style (XG report) change the
syntax of the examples (N3) and the graphs (IsaViz) [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action06</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> raphael to add
the NewsML entry on the vocabularies wiki page by next telecon
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action08</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Thierry, Paul,
Melli to do their wiki page [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action04</a>]<br />
<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Giovanni to
maintain the Tool page [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action03</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Michael to
maintain the Vocabularies Page [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Pasquale to
maintain the Resources Page [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2006/10/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action02</a>]<br />
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