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<h1>- DRAFT -</h1>
<h1>Media Annotations Working Group Teleconference</h1>
<h2>19 Oct 2010</h2>
<p><a href=
'http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Oct/0091.html'>
Agenda</a></p>
<p>See also: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/10/19-mediaann-irc">IRC log</a></p>
<h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>
<div class="intro">
<dl>
<dt>Present</dt>
<dt>Regrets</dt>
<dt>Chair</dt>
<dd>Joakim</dd>
<dt>Scribe</dt>
<dd>Veronique</dd>
</dl>
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<h2>Contents</h2>
<ul>
<li>
<a href="#agenda">Topics</a>
<ol>
<li><a href="#item01">** LC Comment -2395 on Media API
spec(deasagree for speex or VP8 and codec)</a></li>
</ol>
</li>
<li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
</ul>
<hr />
<div class="meeting">
<p class='phone'></p>
<p class='phone'></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>> trackbot, start
telecon</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Date: 19 October
2010</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Joakim</cite>> Meeting: MAWG</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Joakim</cite>> scribers?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Joakim</cite>> scribe:
Veronique</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Joakim</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/10/19-mediaann-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2010/10/19-mediaann-minutes.html</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Joakim</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/10/12-mediaann-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2010/10/12-mediaann-minutes.html</a></p>
<p class='phone'>minutes of last meeting</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>> scribenick:
Vero</p>
<p class='phone'>propose to accept <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/10/12-mediaann-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2010/10/12-mediaann-minutes.html</a></p>
<p class='phone'>accepted</p>
<p class='phone'>still one telecon before the next face to
face</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Joakim</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/open">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/open</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>ITEM:</cite> open action items</p>
<p class='phone'>action 273 ongoing</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Sorry, couldn't
find user - 273</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Thierry:</cite> Silvia Pfeiffer proposed
to fill in missing information<br />
... for Flash could not find missing info, as it is not a
totally open standard</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> some parts of Flash are
open, the ones we are interested in</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Thierry:</cite> I will contact Adobe for
that</p>
<p class='phone'><a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/275">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/275</a></p>
<p class='phone'>the document would not be improved by removing
the "normative" sections</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Joakim:</cite> propose to keep them in
the document, adds clarity<br />
... there has been editorial changes to remove them from the
text</p>
<p class='phone'><a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/294">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/294</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> has edited the table,
will push it at the end of the teleconference</p>
<p class='phone'><a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/309">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/309</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Thierry:</cite> the css is ready, but we
should discuss whether we want this markup</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>> ACTION-309?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-309 --
Thierry Michel to improve markup of nomative/informative,
probably with specific class to visualise -- due 2010-09-16 --
OPEN</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/309">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/309</a></p>
<p class='phone'>close ACTION 311</p>
<p class='phone'><a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/319">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/319</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Thierry:</cite> sent the email but we do
not have an agreement from James</p>
<p class='phone'>close ACTION 319</p>
<p class='phone'><a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/321">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/321</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Thierry:</cite> sent the email to James
and he did not respond<br />
... so we either consider that he is satisfied or, if he does
not remove the formal objection, we will follow the W3C process
and get the director's approval</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> if he attends the F2F,
it would be a good opportunity to solve the problems</p>
<p class='phone'>action on Thierry to check out whether James
attends the F2F</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Sorry, couldn't
find user - on</p>
<p class='phone'>action Thierry to check out whether James
attends the F2F</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-324
- Check out whether James attends the F2F [on Thierry Michel -
due 2010-10-26].</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>ITEM:</cite> LC document publication
schedule</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Thierry:</cite> lacking behind, but was
to be expected<br />
... if we want to have a good quality of document for the 2nd
last call</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Joakim:</cite> would be good to make a
new scedule</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> the LC Comments
status is as follows:</p>
<p class='phone'>action Thierry to make a new schedule of
working plan during f2f and following milestones</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-325
- Make a new schedule of working plan during f2f and following
milestones [on Thierry Michel - due 2010-10-26].</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> =====</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> Agreed: Commenter
approved disposition</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> ******</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> -- LC Comment -2389
on Media Ontology spec</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> -- LC Comment -2398
on Media Ontology spec (jose)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> -- LC Comment -2403
on Media Ontology spec</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> -- LC Comment -2404
on Media Ontology spec</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> -- LC Comment -2417
on Media Ontology spec (PLING Renato)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> -- LC Comment -2410
on Media API spec Jo Rabin</p>
<p class='phone'>ITEM LC comments tracking</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> -- LC Comment -2394
on Media API spec (timeless : need to send final draft for
review.).</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> On going (response
from commenter- partial or no agreement):</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>>
***********************************************************</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> ** LC Comment -2393
on Media Ontology spec (deasagree for speex or VP8 and
codec)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Sep/0245.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Sep/0245.html</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> -->
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Thierry to investigate.</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> ** LC Comment -2405
on Media Ontology spec (Doug)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> satisfied by our
response but would like to see it in the spec.</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> Confused by your
solution around the "ma" prefix, and would like to</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> see it in
writing.</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Oct/0021.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Oct/0021.html</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> -->
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Véronique to see with Raphael or
Wonsuk about new wording in the spec</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> ** LC Comment -2418
on Media Ontology spec (need to respond to 3 unsolved issues)
see to do</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Sep/0242.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Sep/0242.html</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> -->
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Véronique to investigate 3 unsolved
issues</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> --------------</p>
<h3 id="item01">** LC Comment -2395 on Media API spec(deasagree
for speex or VP8 and codec)</h3>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Sep/0246.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Sep/0246.html</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> -->
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Thierry to investigate.</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> ** LC Comment -2419
on Media API spec (need to respond to unsolved issues)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Sep/0233.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Sep/0233.html</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> Proposal from
Chris:</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Oct/0045.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Oct/0045.html</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> -->
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Chris to investigate unsolved
issues)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> ** LC Comment -2406
on Media API spec (Doug)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> Should discuus this
further with Doug during a telecon. Doug should provide
Scenario. Doug kind of agree ... s</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Oct/0088.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Oct/0088.html</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> Ongoing responses to
commenters with partial or no agreement</p>
<p class='phone'>LC 2393</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Thierry:</cite> last email</p>
<p class='phone'><a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Oct/0088.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Oct/0088.html</a></p>
<p class='phone'>no further answer from James</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Thierry:</cite> Silvia has sent some
answers to his emails and she proposed to fill in some of the
info we would need in the table<br />
... first will check out if James comes to TPAC<br />
... if no answer do we consider that he agrees?<br />
... James is the only one with formal objection<br />
... we could wait that we have the WebM container mapping
information provided by Silvia and point him to this
table<br />
... and ask him then for his approval, stating that we think
that we have covered his request</p>
<p class='phone'>action Thierry to check out with Silvia about
the WebM container mapping table</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-326
- Check out with Silvia about the WebM container mapping table
[on Thierry Michel - due 2010-10-26].</p>
<p class='phone'><a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Sep/0242.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Sep/0242.html</a></p>
<p class='phone'>still ongoing, have to check out</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> As of today James
Salsman is not registered at TPAC</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Oct/0077.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Oct/0077.html</a></p>
<p class='phone'><a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Sep/0246.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Sep/0246.html</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Thierry:</cite> does not have any
response to the latest emails</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Joakim:</cite> will resolve the ongoing
formal objection the same way as for the other of his formal
objections</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> can we contact him by
another mean than email?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Thierry:</cite> can ivite him to a
telecon or tpac</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Joakim:</cite> we also have to
coordinate with Doug, Wonsuk, Joakim and Chris<br />
... have not found proper time slot yet</p>
<p class='phone'><a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Oct/0088.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Oct/0088.html</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Joakim:</cite> will send an email to API
editors, propose 2 options this week<br />
... otherwise next telecon or TPAC<br />
... Doug should send a draft scenario, which we did not get
yet</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>ITEM:</cite> discuss the TPAC agenda</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Joakim:</cite> we do not have a draft
yet</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Thierry:</cite> I can send a draft
tomorrow</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Joakim:</cite> I can help you finilize
it</p>
<p class='phone'>RSS Agent, draft minutes</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Joakim</cite>> Bye bye!</p>
<p class='phone'>RSSAgent, draft minutes</p>
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<h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
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