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  <h1>- DRAFT -</h1>

  <h1>Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference</h1>

  <h2>14 Apr 2010</h2>

  <p><a href=
  'http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010Apr/0022.html'>
  Agenda</a></p>

  <p>See also: <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2010/04/14-mediafrag-irc">IRC log</a></p>

  <h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>

  <div class="intro">
    <dl>
      <dt>Present</dt>

      <dd>silvia, davy, erik, yves, michael</dd>

      <dt>Regrets</dt>

      <dd>raphael</dd>

      <dt>Chair</dt>

      <dd>erik</dd>

      <dt>Scribe</dt>

      <dd>Davy</dd>
    </dl>
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  <h2>Contents</h2>

  <ul>
    <li>
      <a href="#agenda">Topics</a>

      <ol>
        <li><a href="#item01">ADMIN</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item02">SPECIFICATION</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item03">Test cases</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item04">AOB</a></li>
      </ol>
    </li>

    <li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
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  <div class="meeting">
    <p class='phone'></p>

    <p class='phone'></p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Date: 14 April
    2010</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jackjansen</cite>&gt; Yves, are you
    joining?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>erik</cite>&gt; scribe: Davy</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt; scribenick: davy</p>

    <h3 id="item01">ADMIN</h3>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Erik:</cite> Doodle for finding out a
    convenient time slot:</p>

    <p class='phone'><a href=
    "http://www.doodle.com/vued2yf88xnyv7mh">http://www.doodle.com/vued2yf88xnyv7mh</a></p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Erik:</cite> everybody is happy with the
    current time slot (except Conrad)<br />
    ... does anyone objects with this timeslot?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jackjansen</cite>&gt; +1</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; no objection from
    me</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Proposal:</cite> stick with the same
    time slot</p>

    <p class='phone'>+1</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jackjansen</cite>&gt; +1</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>erik</cite>&gt; +1</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>resolution:</cite> timeslot will be the
    same</p>

    <p class='phone'>PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 03 March
    2010 telecon:</p>

    <p class='phone'><a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2010/03/03-mediafrag-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2010/03/03-mediafrag-minutes.html</a></p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>erik</cite>&gt; +1</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; +1</p>

    <p class='phone'>+1</p>

    <p class='phone'>PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 5th F2F
    meeting:</p>

    <p class='phone'><a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2010/03/08-mediafrag-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2010/03/08-mediafrag-minutes.html</a></p>

    <p class='phone'><a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2010/03/09-mediafrag-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2010/03/09-mediafrag-minutes.html</a></p>

    <p class='phone'>PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 07 April
    2010 telecon:</p>

    <p class='phone'><a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2010/04/07-mediafrag-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2010/04/07-mediafrag-minutes.html</a></p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenblas</cite>&gt; +1</p>

    <p class='phone'>+1</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>erik</cite>&gt; +1</p>

    <p class='phone'><strong class='resolution'>RESOLUTION: all
    minutes accepted</strong></p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Erik:</cite> next WG F2F: <a href=
    "http://www.doodle.com/rt7fsz583hgzrcki">http://www.doodle.com/rt7fsz583hgzrcki</a></p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Proposal:</cite> next F2F will be in
    Europe, 14-16 June</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>erik</cite>&gt; +1</p>

    <p class='phone'>+1</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Erik:</cite> Yves, should we publish LC
    after this F2F?</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Yves:</cite> probably yes, I don't think
    we are far from LC</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Proposed:</cite> F2F at TPAC 2010,
    Thu-Fri</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>erik</cite>&gt; +1</p>

    <p class='phone'>+1</p>

    <h3 id="item02">SPECIFICATION</h3>

    <p class='phone'>Action-152?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-152 -- Yves
    Lafon to change the formal syntax to reflect that we don't need
    a subdelim for selecting multiple tracks but we allow multiple
    track= in the URI + change the top level part to reflect the
    latest change on the mediasegment production -- due 2010-03-16
    -- OPEN</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/152">
    http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/152</a></p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Yves:</cite> issue with track and how
    the parameters are encoded<br />
    ... easy for time ranges (just subpart of ascii)<br />
    ... for id and track it is a bit more difficult<br />
    ... will provide more information later</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; +q</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Silvia:</cite> for id and track, it may
    be possible to specify allowed characters<br />
    ... need to write a mail regarding the issues and discuss
    it</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Yves:</cite> I will write an initial
    email</p>

    <p class='phone'>Action-137?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-137 -- Jack
    Jansen to check that 5.1 (General Intepretation) is
    implementable using the protocol -- due 2010-02-10 -- OPEN</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/137">
    http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/137</a></p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Jack:</cite> haven't looked at that
    (earliest mid may)</p>

    <h3 id="item03">Test cases</h3>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Erik:</cite> promised to help with the
    test cases<br />
    ... from May on</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Silvia:</cite> happy to make a number of
    changes in the current test cases (regarding media files don't
    starting at 0)</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Yves</cite>&gt; <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/WD-media-frags-20100413/">http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/WD-media-frags-20100413/</a></p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Silvia:</cite> providing a list of test
    cases is very important for implementors</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Erik:</cite> republish next week or the
    week after?</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Michael:</cite> all actions continue</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Erik:</cite> will this be finished on 1
    May?</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Michael:</cite> I will try</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Jack:</cite> at end of F2F, we started
    writing all these test cases, do we still have that piece of
    paper?</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Silvia:</cite> Raphael putted it into
    the wiki</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/TemporalDimension">
    http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/TemporalDimension</a></p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Jack:</cite> for the moment, we ignore
    corrib and the above url is the master copy?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>silvia</cite>&gt; <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/WD-media-frags-20100413/#error-temporal">
    http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/WD-media-frags-20100413/#error-temporal</a></p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Silvia:</cite> yes</p><a name="action01"
    id="action01"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Silvia to integrate the test cases
    into the spec [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2010/04/14-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2010/04/14-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-161
    - Integrate the test cases into the spec [on Silvia Pfeiffer -
    due 2010-04-21].</p>

    <h3 id="item04">AOB</h3>

    <p class='phone'>[adjourned]</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>erik</cite>&gt; SribeOptions: -final
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  <h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
  Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Silvia to
  integrate the test cases into the spec [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2010/04/14-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2010/04/14-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br />

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