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  <h1>- DRAFT -</h1>

  <h1>MMSEM 16 November Telecon</h1>

  <h2>16 Nov 2006</h2>

  <p><a href=
  'http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Nov/0021.html'>
  Agenda</a></p>

  <p>See also: <a href="http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-irc">IRC
  log</a></p>

  <h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>

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    <dl>
      <dt>Present</dt>

      <dd>Raphael, Jacco, Tobias, Vassilis, Paola, George,
      Jeff</dd>

      <dt>Regrets</dt>

      <dd>Ioannis, Stamatia, ThierryDeclerck, Pasquale, Roberto,
      Giovanni, Christian, ChrisHalashek, Melli</dd>

      <dt>Chair</dt>

      <dd>Jeff, Raphael</dd>

      <dt>Scribe</dt>

      <dd>Jacco</dd>
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  <h2>Contents</h2>

  <ul>
    <li>
      <a href="#agenda">Topics</a>

      <ol>
        <li><a href="#item01">W3C Multimedia Semantics XG - Telecon
        16-11-2006, 16:00 UTC</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item02">1. ADMIN</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item03">2. LINKS Pages</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item04">3. XG UPDATES</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item05">3.1 Music Use case: (Giovanni,
        Oscar)</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item06">3.2: News Use case: (Raphael,
        Chris)</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item07">3.3 Bio-medical Image Use case:
        (Melliyal)</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item08">3.4: MPEG-7 metadata interoperability
        Use case</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item09">3.5 Photo Use case:
        (Susanne)</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item10">3.6 Semantic Multimedia Retrieval Use
        Case</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item11">3.7 Algorithm representation Use
        case</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item12">3.8 Tagging Use case</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item13">4. Interoperability
        Deliverable</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item14">4
        http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Building_multimedial_Semantic_Web_Applications</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item15">5. F2F meeting</a></li>
      </ol>
    </li>

    <li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
  </ul>
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  <div class="meeting">
    <p class='phone'>&nbsp;</p>

    <p class='phone'>&nbsp;</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt; Scribe: Jacco</p>

    <h3 id="item01">W3C Multimedia Semantics XG - Telecon
    16-11-2006, 16:00 UTC</h3>

    <h3 id="item02">1. ADMIN</h3>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>TobiasBuerger</cite>&gt; \me Zakim,
    mute me</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenb</cite>&gt; hi there. today I
    just can join you via IRC</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>isti</cite>&gt; hi all from Ovidio,
    Suzanne and Massimo</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenb</cite>&gt; Is it peradventure
    possible for anybody to transcribe the audio</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenb</cite>&gt; or at least
    summarise, please?</p>

    <p class='phone'>Minutes previous meeting are accepted</p>

    <p class='phone'>Minutes informal meeting @ISWC accepted as
    well</p>

    <p class='phone'>Next meeting will be next week Nov, 23</p>

    <h3 id="item03">2. LINKS Pages</h3>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>ThomasFranz</cite>&gt; my regrets for
    the next telco on Nov, 23</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Michael, report on
    vocabularies page ?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenb</cite>&gt; some progress
    indeed</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; something to report
    ?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenb</cite>&gt; still looking for
    some volunteers for some sections</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenb</cite>&gt; promise to
    incoporate your comments till next week!</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; my comments:
    <a href=
    "http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Oct/0056.html">
    http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Oct/0056.html</a></p>

    <p class='phone'>Tobias volunteers to fill some section
    here</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Tobias volunteers
    to maintain MPEG21 and MXF sectionss</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenb</cite>&gt; THANKS!</p>

    <h3 id="item04">3. XG UPDATES</h3>

    <p class='phone'>Image annotations deliverable: Raphael is
    editing, but didn't check in yet</p>

    <p class='phone'>XML exampes still need to be converted to N3
    and the graphs need to be redone</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenb</cite>&gt; volunteer to
    convert ...</p><a name="action01" id="action01"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Pasquale to maintain the Resources
    page: PENDING [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p><a name="action02"
    id="action02"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Michael to maintain the Vocabularies
    page: PENDING [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action02</a>]</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>TobiasBuerger</cite>&gt; \me Zakim,
    mute me</p><a name="action03" id="action03"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Giovanni and Christian to maintain the
    Tools page: PENDING [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action03</a>]</p><a name="action04"
    id="action04"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Melli and Paul to do their wiki page:
    PENDING [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action04</a>]</p><a name="action05"
    id="action05"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Raphael addresses the comments on
    "Image Annotation on the Semantic Web document": PENDING
    [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action05</a>]</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> will have a final
    version on the f2f meeting, so people need to read it
    before</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Interoperability
    issues: the key word of this XG !!!</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; All use cases
    should be written with this goal in mind</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Later on, Vassilis
    will talk about how they will converge and be put
    together</p><a name="action06" id="action06"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Jeff to review all use cases: PENDING
    [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action06</a>]</p><a name="action07"
    id="action07"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Vassilis to review all use cases
    [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action07</a>]</p>

    <h3 id="item05">3.1 Music Use case: (Giovanni, Oscar)</h3>

    <p class='phone'>Oscar will join this group but needs to teach
    on Thursdays</p>

    <p class='phone'>Oscar will attend the f2f in
    Athens</p><a name="action08" id="action08"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Jacco to review the music use case:
    PENDING [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action08</a>]</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Comments of Oscar:
    <a href=
    "http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Nov/0020.html">
    http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Nov/0020.html</a></p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenb</cite>&gt; what is going on?
    topic?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>TobiasBuerger</cite>&gt; I think it is
    also important to distinguish this use case from "classical"
    information retrieval</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Timeline: before
    the F2F, having a first draft of the Music Use case</p><a name=
    "action09" id="action09"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Oscar, Jacco and Giovanni to make a
    first draft of the use case by December 1st [recorded in
    <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action09">http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action09</a>]</p><a name="action10"
    id="action10"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Oscar and Jacco to draft more focussed
    use case before December 1st [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action10">http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action10</a>]</p>

    <h3 id="item06">3.2: News Use case: (Raphael, Chris)</h3>

    <p class='phone'>We updated the wiki, but made little progress
    on the solutions part</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> we are looking at
    financial information in this use case</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenb</cite>&gt; how about
    IPTC?</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> we are still in the
    process of getting good example data</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenb</cite>&gt; please define
    _good_</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> We will try to make the
    deadline of 1st december</p><a name="action11" id=
    "action11"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Raphael, Chris, Thierry: finish news
    UC draft before Dec 1st. [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action11">http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action11</a>]</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Vassilis:</cite> maybe we should focus
    on small single interoperability problems, not cover all of
    them</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Michael, we are in
    the process of having more data for illustrating the problems
    (interoperability problems)</p>

    <h3 id="item07">3.3 Bio-medical Image Use case: (Melliyal)</h3>

    <p class='phone'>Melli sent regrets</p>

    <h3 id="item08">3.4: MPEG-7 metadata interoperability Use
    case</h3>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Comments of
    Suzanne: <a href=
    "http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Nov/0017.html">
    http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Nov/0017.html</a></p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Comments of
    Rapahel: <a href=
    "http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Oct/0062.html">
    http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Oct/0062.html</a></p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Vassilis:</cite> Also little progress on
    solution, will focus on one of three types of solution</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenb</cite>&gt; agree. still we
    should describe the problems in depth ...</p><a name="action12"
    id="action12"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Vassilis et al to provide 1st draft
    MPEG-7 UC before Dec 1. [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action12">http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action12</a>]</p>

    <h3 id="item09">3.5 Photo Use case: (Susanne)</h3>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Susanne:</cite> in general this UC fits
    well with the interoperability focus of the XG</p>

    <p class='phone'>Most remarks were clarifications, ask how to
    do multiple domain ontologies using Hunter's ABC framework</p>

    <h3 id="item10">3.6 Semantic Multimedia Retrieval Use Case</h3>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>susanneBoll</cite>&gt; yes</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>susanneBoll</cite>&gt; SusanneBoll</p>

    <p class='phone'>What about a general vocabulary for annotating
    photo's on the web</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Susanne:</cite> We are working with a
    large photo provider, they need both high and low level
    features</p>

    <p class='phone'>And there is no common framework to do this on
    the web</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> Suggest how to solve
    this in say, the XMP way versus, say the PhotoRDF stuff.<br />
    ... Would this make sense?</p>

    <p class='phone'>XMP=embedded, PhotoRDF=external</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Centralized versus
    Distributed for the host of the photos and of the metadata</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; How to retrieve
    from a photo its metadata ?</p><a name="action13" id=
    "action13"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Susanne extent draft Photo UC before
    Dec 1 [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action13">http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action13</a>]</p>

    <p class='phone'>Ionnis is not present</p>

    <p class='phone'>Ioannis has troubles making the telephone
    confs</p><a name="action14" id="action14"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Vassilis to suggest skype to Ioannis
    [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action14">http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action14</a>]</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>JeffP</cite>&gt; W3C Zakim:
    +1.617.761.6200, +33.4.89.06.34.99 or
    +44.117.370.6152</p><a name="action15" id="action15"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Vassilis to contact Ioannis about
    future of this UC [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action15">http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action15</a>]</p>

    <h3 id="item11">3.7 Algorithm representation Use case</h3>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Massimo:</cite> not much progress last
    weeks</p><a name="action16" id="action16"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Massimo &amp; Suzanne to have draft
    ready for review before December 1 [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action16">http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action16</a>]</p><a name="action17"
    id="action17"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Tobias to send comments on Algorithm
    representation Use case [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action17">http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action17</a>]</p>

    <h3 id="item12">3.8 Tagging Use case</h3>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Draft tagging
    ontology</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Problems: not
    possible to use DC and SKOS in OWL DL ... will be OWL Full</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>George:</cite> facing some skoss related
    problems, mailed to relevant w3c lists</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> SWD WG will developp and
    OWL version of SKOS</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; OWL DL version
    !</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>susanneBoll</cite>&gt; I would like to
    add the following link</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>susanneBoll</cite>&gt; Inducing
    Ontology from Flickr Tags</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>George:</cite> developing prototype to
    show interoperability across tagging sites</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>susanneBoll</cite>&gt; <a href=
    "http://www.rawsugar.com/www2006/22.pdf">http://www.rawsugar.com/www2006/22.pdf</a></p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; thx susanne</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; we know about this
    paper .</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Jeff and Vassilis
    will review it Michael</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenb</cite>&gt;
    thanks!</p><a name="action18" id="action18"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Jeff and Vassilis to review <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Building_multimedial_Semantic_Web_Applications">
    http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Building_multimedial_Semantic_Web_Applications</a>
    [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action18">http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action18</a>]</p>

    <h3 id="item13">4. Interoperability Deliverable</h3>

    <h3 id="item14">4 <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Building_multimedial_Semantic_Web_Applications">
    http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Building_multimedial_Semantic_Web_Applications</a></h3>

    <p class='phone'>Semantic Web Activity lead Ivan Herman invited
    Raphael and Jeff to report back to the SW Coordination Group in
    January</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Vassilis:</cite> I've put a first draft
    of the interoperability deliverable on the wiki</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> The first point to
    discuss is the status of the Use Cases</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenb</cite>&gt; looks sensible to
    me, vassilis</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>JeffP</cite>&gt; <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Semantic_Interoperability">
    http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Semantic_Interoperability</a></p>

    <p class='phone'>(short version of) use cases should be
    integrated in the deliverable</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenb</cite>&gt; opt for linking to
    tools/voc/resources NOT including them</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Tobias:</cite> We could also do it the
    other way around: first discuss the issues and than match those
    with relevant use cases</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>TobiasBuerger</cite>&gt; Jacco: yes we
    could do that</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Vassilis:</cite> I think the issue
    should be the use cases issues</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenb</cite>&gt; and I support
    Tobias proposal</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Status of the Tools
    / Vocabularies / Resources</p>

    <p class='phone'>Sorry all, I have to leave - see you next
    time</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Raphael: good to
    publicize, good result of the XG</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; ... to include or
    not in the Deliverable ...</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; ... most likely
    not</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; ... so section 7
    might disapear</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenb</cite>&gt; a pointer would do
    IMHO</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Use Cases: core
    meat or not of the document ?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenb</cite>&gt; definitly, but
    summarized</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Introduction of the
    document decomposed into 4 sub-sections</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; 6.2 is the summary
    of all interoperability problems encountered during the vaious
    use cases</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Raphael: are we
    able to do that from now ?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Vassilis: yes, it
    will help the authors of the use cases</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenb</cite>&gt; IMO later (after
    stable UC)</p><a name="action19" id="action19"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Vassilis to clarify the content of
    section 6 and 9 and ask to use case authors precised
    contributions, on the mailling list [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action19">http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action19</a>]</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenb</cite>&gt; any news?</p>

    <h3 id="item15">5. F2F meeting</h3>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; please, all, fill
    the questionnaire !!!</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>isti</cite>&gt; bye !</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenb</cite>&gt; till next week,
    bye bye!</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Title: W3C
    Multimedia Semantics XG - Telecon 16-11-2006, 16:00 UTC</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Title: W3C
    Multimedia Semantics XG - Telecon 16-11-2006, 16:00 UTC</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Title: W3C
    Multimedia Semantics XG - Telecon 16-11-2006, 16:00 UTC</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Chairq: Jeff,
    Raphael</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Chairs: Jeff,
    Raphael</p>
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  <h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
  Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Jeff and Vassilis
  to review <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Building_multimedial_Semantic_Web_Applications">
  http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Building_multimedial_Semantic_Web_Applications</a>
  [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action18">http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action18</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Massimo &amp;
  Suzanne to have draft ready for review before December 1
  [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action16">http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action16</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Oscar and Jacco
  to draft more focussed use case before December 1st [recorded in
  <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action10">http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action10</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Oscar, Jacco and
  Giovanni to make a first draft of the use case by December 1st
  [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action09">http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action09</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Raphael, Chris,
  Thierry: finish news UC draft before Dec 1st. [recorded in
  <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action11">http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action11</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Susanne extent
  draft Photo UC before Dec 1 [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action13">http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action13</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Tobias to send
  comments on Algorithm representation Use case [recorded in
  <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action17">http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action17</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Vassilis et al to
  provide 1st draft MPEG-7 UC before Dec 1. [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action12">http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action12</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Vassilis to
  clarify the content of section 6 and 9 and ask to use case
  authors precised contributions, on the mailling list [recorded in
  <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action19">http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action19</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Vassilis to
  contact Ioannis about future of this UC [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action15">http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action15</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Vassilis to
  review all use cases [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action07</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Vassilis to
  suggest skype to Ioannis [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action14">http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action14</a>]<br />

  &nbsp;<br />
  <strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Giovanni and
  Christian to maintain the Tools page [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action03</a>]<br />

  <strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Jacco to
  review the music use case [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action08</a>]<br />

  <strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Jeff to
  review all use cases [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action06</a>]<br />

  <strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Melli and
  Paul to do their wiki page [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action04</a>]<br />

  <strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Michael to
  maintain the Vocabularies page [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action02</a>]<br />

  <strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Pasquale to
  maintain the Resources page [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br />

  <strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Raphael
  addresses the comments on "Image Annotation on the Semantic Web
  document" [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2006/11/16-mmsem-minutes.html#action05</a>]<br />

  &nbsp;<br />
  [End of minutes]<br />
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