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<h1>- DRAFT -</h1>
<h1>Multimedia Semantics XG - Telecon 31-08-2006</h1>
<h2>31 Aug 2006</h2>
<p>See also: <a href="http://www.w3.org/2006/08/31-mmsem-irc">IRC
log</a></p>
<h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>
<div class="intro">
<dl>
<dt>Present</dt>
<dd>Stamatia, mhausenblas, raphael, Thomas, JeffP, Giovanni,
GeorgeAnadiotis, Melli, Thierry, SusanneBoll</dd>
<dt>Regrets</dt>
<dd>Jacco, Chris, Patrizia_Asirelli, Massimo_Martinelli,
Ovidio_Salvetti</dd>
<dt>Chair</dt>
<dd>JeffP</dd>
<dt>Scribe</dt>
<dd>raphael</dd>
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<h2>Contents</h2>
<ul>
<li>
<a href="#agenda">Topics</a>
<ol>
<li><a href="#item01">Admin</a></li>
<li><a href="#item02">LIAISON (SWBPD)</a></li>
<li><a href="#item03">XG Updates</a></li>
<li><a href="#item04">Future Meetings</a></li>
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</li>
<li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
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<hr />
<div class="meeting">
<p class='phone'> </p>
<p class='phone'> </p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> re all</p>
<p class='phone'>hi Giovanni</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>JeffP</cite>> Hi Giovanni</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> Christian is not
here today.. he regrets of being having a jolly great time on
vacation in spain</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> Scribe: raphael</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> ScribeNick:
raphael</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> (cheering crowd
noieses at each name) :-)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> sorry i am so new
at these telecons i findit all very exciting (still?)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> :-)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> hi there
...</p>
<p class='phone'>zakim +30231046aaaa is Stamatia</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> zakim this is
mhausenblas</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> woh is here</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> who is here</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> zakim who is
here</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>pasquale</cite>> hi all, ciao
;-)</p>
<p class='phone'>hi pasquale</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>pasquale</cite>> hi raphael</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> me and w3c
conference system dont get along too well</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> or its skype</p>
<p class='phone'>you're only on IRC giovani ?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> i am joining</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> thanks to the
operator</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>franz</cite>> hi, its me, thomas
(franz is my last name)</p>
<h3 id="item01">Admin</h3>
<p class='phone'>PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 20 July
2006 telecon: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html</a>
ACCEPTED</p>
<p class='phone'>Agenda amendments: talk about the 2
deliverables</p>
<p class='phone'>Agenda amendments: date for the 2nd F2F</p>
<p class='phone'>PROPOSED next telecon 14 September 2006
ACCEPTED</p>
<h3 id="item02">LIAISON (SWBPD)</h3>
<p class='irc'><<cite>JeffP</cite>> Jeff: I will be
travelling on Sept 14, but I think Raphael can manage</p>
<p class='phone'>Issue, the document "Image annotation on the
Semantic</p>
<p class='phone'>Web"</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>VassilisT</cite>> Hi all</p>
<p class='phone'>should be finished by Sept 1st</p>
<p class='phone'>hi Vassilis</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>pasquale</cite>> hi Vassilis</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>VassilisT</cite>> I will follow the
meeting only by irc unfirtunatelly</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>JeffP</cite>> Hi Vassilis, are you
going to join the phone as well?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>anadiotis</cite>> hi Vassili</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> is the SWBP group
closing sept 1 then?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> is it continuing
somehow?</p><a name="action01" id="action01"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Yannis to report back to the group
about the outcome of the [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/08/31-mmsem-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2006/08/31-mmsem-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>
<p class='phone'>MPEG7 liason attempts after a visit of ITI in
Austria [recorded in</p>
<p class='phone'><a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> jeff , very
interesting indeed! any pointer?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>JeffP</cite>> giovannit, it is not
online yet, will send to the mailing list soon</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>JeffP</cite>> it is about RDFS(FA),
just for the record</p>
<h3 id="item03">XG Updates</h3>
<p class='irc'><<cite>JeffP</cite>> <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Aug/0000.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Aug/0000.html</a></p>
<p class='phone'>Music Use Case:</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Giovani:</cite> how to identify tracks,
songs<br />
... Marie is listening a song and would like to find "similar"
songs</p>
<p class='phone'>Identifying files using MD5 ? MPEG-7 low level
features ?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Michael:</cite> separate the MPEG-7
(profile) and RDF representations</p><a name="action02" id=
"action02"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Thierry to write up limitations of
MPEG-7 description schemes [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/08/31-mmsem-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2006/08/31-mmsem-minutes.html#action02</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> yes, lirics! i
keep forgetting them sorry :-(</p>
<p class='phone'>Thierry, not the good place. It is a more
general problem</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Thierry:</cite> current work for
aligning audio and text in music</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Giovani:</cite> include lyrics</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> update to music
use case /me talking about <a href=
"http://www.chiariglione.org/mpeg/standards/mpeg-7/mpeg-7.htm#E12E5">
http://www.chiariglione.org/mpeg/standards/mpeg-7/mpeg-7.htm#E12E5</a></p>
<p class='phone'>ID3 tags in RDF ?</p>
<p class='phone'>Tagging Use Case:</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>george:</cite> EU project mentioned by
Thomas (TAGORA ?)</p>
<p class='phone'>thomas, can you write name, URL of this
project ?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>susanne</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.tagora-project.eu/">http://www.tagora-project.eu/</a></p>
<p class='phone'>Focus on interoperability issue</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Susanne:</cite> strong relationship with
this use case with the use case "Semantics from Multimedia
Authoring"</p>
<p class='phone'>News Use case:</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Problems:</cite> many standards are
used</p>
<p class='phone'>Low level feature extraction Use case</p>
<p class='phone'>IoannisPratikakis</p>
<p class='phone'>?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> am I still
muted?</p>
<p class='phone'>yes</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>IoannisPratikakis</cite>> there is
a question whether the two cases will be fused</p>
<p class='phone'>you were too noisy</p>
<p class='phone'>Bio-medical Image Use Case</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Melli:</cite> no RDF representation of
SNOMED yet<br />
... interoperability for describing the content of the
images</p>
<p class='phone'>though correspondance between medical
ontologies</p>
<p class='phone'>MESH, SNOMED, etc.</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> thanks raphael,
i'll try to breath more quiet ;)</p>
<p class='phone'>Semantics from Multimedia Authoring use
case:</p>
<p class='phone'>linked the 2 use cases explicitely</p>
<p class='phone'>MPEG-7 metadata interoperability Use case</p>
<p class='phone'>Various way to express the same thing in
MPEG-7</p>
<p class='phone'>Michael will work on it also</p>
<p class='phone'>example ?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Stamatia:</cite> yes we can provide
some</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> as far as audio
is concerned we addressed the syntactic problems with the
mpeg-7audioDB, which basically normalizes different
descriptionsions (at least tries to)</p>
<h3 id="item04">Future Meetings</h3>
<p class='phone'>Proposal for F2F number 2: 8-9 of December
?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>cgi-irc</cite>> I need to leave -
thanks all. - Melli</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> ops</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> sorry got
disconnected</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jeff:</cite> ALL use the mailling list
and the wiki</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> ok bye ... see
U all @ 2006/09/14</p><a name="action03" id="action03"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> ALL to update their wiki pages
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/08/31-mmsem-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2006/08/31-mmsem-minutes.html#action03</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>pasquale</cite>> hi all, bye</p>
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<h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> ALL to update
their wiki pages [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/08/31-mmsem-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2006/08/31-mmsem-minutes.html#action03</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Thierry to write
up limitations of MPEG-7 description schemes [recorded in
<a href="http://www.w3.org/2006/08/31-mmsem-minutes.html#action02">
http://www.w3.org/2006/08/31-mmsem-minutes.html#action02</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Yannis to report
back to the group about the outcome of the [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2006/08/31-mmsem-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2006/08/31-mmsem-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br />
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