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<h1>- DRAFT -</h1>
<h1>SV_MEETING_TITLE</h1>
<h2>17 Apr 2009</h2>
<p>See also: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-irc">IRC log</a></p>
<h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>
<div class="intro">
<dl>
<dt>Present</dt>
<dt>Regrets</dt>
<dt>Chair</dt>
<dd>SV_MEETING_CHAIR</dd>
<dt>Scribe</dt>
<dd>daniel</dd>
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<h2>Contents</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="#agenda">Topics</a></li>
<li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
</ul>
<hr />
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<p class='phone'> </p>
<p class='phone'> </p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>dsinger</cite>> so, questions about
the mapping: we need to identify for which of these properties
would a query expect to return one result, and for which we
could get multiple results</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>dsinger</cite>> we also need to
work out whether the API is supposed to deliver what is in the
file, verbatim, or whether it is supposed to try to manipulate
the data into some kind of canonical form?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>dsinger</cite>> for example, dates
into ISO or RFC 3339 date format?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>dsinger</cite>> identifiers into
URNs, that identify the scheme and the identifier in that
scheme?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>dsinger</cite>> keywords from a
defined set or open?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>dsinger</cite>> we're also trying
to define which elements are technical properties (e.g. frame
size) and which are annotations</p>
<p class='phone'>In Wikipedia: Media Object is a portion of one
or two elements that may contain video and/or audio. Media
objects with audio are normally synchronized with the video
when used at the same time.</p>
<p class='phone'>annotation naming: ma:title (dc:title),
ma:creator(dc:creator), ma:rights(dc:rights),
ma:contributor(dc:contributor), ma:description(dc:description),
ma:keyword (dc:subject)</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>ma:</cite> identifier (A URI identifies
an entity which can be either a Resource (abstract concept) or
a Prpresentation (instance/file). Refer to 4.4</p>
<p class='phone'>refer to 4.4 Annotating Media Fragments
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-reqs/#uc4">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-reqs/#uc4</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Type:</cite> either MIME type or file
format ?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>ma:</cite> type (genre of the entity)
and genre is removed</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>createdate:</cite> create the film (1800
war) in 1999 => create date is 1800 or 1999 ?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>ma:</cite> createdate can be createdate,
releasedate, etc...</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>dc:</cite> type is The nature or genre
of the resource, but genre is well used and understood in
contents today...which might be better word ? *Type* or *Genre*
?</p>
<p class='phone'>copyright is an identification holder, and
what rights means ?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>dc:</cite> rights => Information
about rights held in and over the resource</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>dsinger</cite>> suggest we select
'copyright' and identify it as possibly matching dc:rights, and
not have a separate 'rights</p>
<p class='phone'>DRM and Right Managements are not in-scope of
MAWG...keeping *Copyright* and removing *Rights* from the
properties</p>
<p class='phone'>W3C does not have its own DRM and just trying
to reuse them</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>ma:</cite> language (used in resource
such as english, franch, spanish, korean, etc...) reference:
<a href=
"http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4646.txt">http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4646.txt</a></p>
<p class='phone'>*</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>dc:</cite> relation, what relation and
how to express these relationship ? such as a URI</p><a name=
"action01" id="action01"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> daniel to ask Felix for the
relationship in dc:relation [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Sorry, couldn't
find user - daniel</p><a name="action02" id="action02"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Soohong Daniel to ask Felix for the
relationship in dc:relation [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action02</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-103
- Daniel to ask Felix for the relationship in dc:relation [on
Soohong Daniel Park - due 2009-04-24].</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>ma:</cite> compression (compression of
type used, such as codec: H.264, etc...), reference to
:<a href="http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4281.txt">http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4281.txt</a><br />
... ShotLocation (location associated with the entity. Can be
the depicted location or shot location) reference to: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-geolocation-API-20081222/">http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-geolocation-API-20081222/</a><br />
... targetAudience (is newly added): for example: parental
guide (kids lock), targeting geographical, etc...)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>joakim</cite>> felix re you
there?</p>
<p class='phone'><a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/Meeting_Agenda_(In_Progress)">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/Meeting_Agenda_(In_Progress)</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>vrodrgue</cite>> Hi Felix, we are
dialed-in...</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>fsasaki</cite>> hi vrodruge, I will
dial in later, see above</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>veroniquemalaise</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/Top_Supported_Tags">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/Top_Supported_Tags</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>wonsuk</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/Format_mapping_review">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/Format_mapping_review</a></p>
<p class='phone'>make minutes</p><a name="action03" id=
"action03"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>fsasaki</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Felix to provide information about
language identification, in addition to RFC 4646 [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action03</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-104
- Provide information about language identification, in
addition to RFC 4646 [on Felix Sasaki - due 2009-04-24].</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>fsasaki</cite>> sorry for giving
myself an action ...</p><a name="action04" id="action04"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Soohong Daniel to ask members for the
definition of contributor types [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action04</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-105
- Daniel to ask members for the definition of contributor types
[on Soohong Daniel Park - due 2009-04-24].</p>
<p class='phone'>zamik, who is here</p><a name="action05" id=
"action05"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Wonsuk (and editing team) to come up
with the initial Ontology document by April 28 [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action05</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-106
- (and editing team) to come up with the initial Ontology
document by April 28 [on WonSuk Lee - due 2009-04-24].</p>
<p class='phone'>who is here?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>joakim</cite>> An identifier can
adress either a "Resource" (abstract concept) or a
"Representation" (instance/file).</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>joakim</cite>> It can be a singel
object or composed of fragments</p>
<p class='phone'>a new selected mappilg table: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/Top_Supported_Tags">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/Top_Supported_Tags</a></p><a name="action06"
id="action06"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Joakim to update the all excel format
files according to the new initial MAWG attributes [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action06</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-107
- Update the all excel format files according to the new
initial MAWG attributes [on Joakim Söderberg - due
2009-04-24].</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>veroniquemalaise</cite>> <a href=
"http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-1.0/mediaont-1.0.html">
http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-1.0/mediaont-1.0.html</a></p>
<p class='phone'>3 major parts: introduction, definition and
mapping table.</p>
<p class='phone'>Raphael, we are now trying to shut down the
meeting by 5 PM wihtout break</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>vrodrgue</cite>> .</p><a name=
"action07" id="action07"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Joakim to make a *call for comments*
to the mailing list in terms of mapping table [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action07</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-108
- Make a *call for comments* to the mailing list in terms of
mapping table [on Joakim Söderberg - due 2009-04-24].</p>
<p class='phone'>Attribution and description might be
elaborated. Each Attribute has a clear meaning and
explanation.</p><a name="action08" id="action08"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Dave to elaborate on the description
and the meaning of each attribute by April 28 [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action08</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Sorry, couldn't
find user - Dave</p>
<p class='phone'>who is here?</p><a name="action09" id=
"action09"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> dsinger to elaborate on the
description and the meaning of each attribute by April 28
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action09">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action09</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Sorry, couldn't
find user - dsinger</p><a name="action10" id="action10"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> David to elaborate on the description
and the meaning of each attribute by April 28 [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action10">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action10</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-109
- Elaborate on the description and the meaning of each
attribute by April 28 [on David Singer - due
2009-04-24].</p><a name="action11" id="action11"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Joakim to double check the next F2F
meeting date for other complicated things [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action11">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action11</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-110
- Double check the next F2F meeting date for other complicated
things [on Joakim Söderberg - due 2009-04-24].</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> done</p>
</div>
<h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> daniel to ask
Felix for the relationship in dc:relation [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Dave to elaborate
on the description and the meaning of each attribute by April 28
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action08</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> David to
elaborate on the description and the meaning of each attribute by
April 28 [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action10">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action10</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> dsinger to
elaborate on the description and the meaning of each attribute by
April 28 [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action09">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action09</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Felix to provide
information about language identification, in addition to RFC
4646 [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action03</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Joakim to double
check the next F2F meeting date for other complicated things
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action11">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action11</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Joakim to make a
*call for comments* to the mailing list in terms of mapping table
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action07</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Joakim to update
the all excel format files according to the new initial MAWG
attributes [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action06</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Soohong Daniel to
ask Felix for the relationship in dc:relation [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action02</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Soohong Daniel to
ask members for the definition of contributor types [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action04</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Wonsuk (and
editing team) to come up with the initial Ontology document by
April 28 [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediaann-minutes.html#action05</a>]<br />
<br />
[End of minutes]<br />
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