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  <h1>- DRAFT -</h1>

  <h1>Multimedia Semantics XG - Telecon 31-08-2006</h1>

  <h2>31 Aug 2006</h2>

  <p>See also: <a href="http://www.w3.org/2006/08/31-mmsem-irc">IRC
  log</a></p>

  <h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>

  <div class="intro">
    <dl>
      <dt>Present</dt>

      <dd>Stamatia, mhausenblas, raphael, Thomas, JeffP, Giovanni,
      GeorgeAnadiotis, Melli, Thierry, SusanneBoll</dd>

      <dt>Regrets</dt>

      <dd>Jacco, Chris, Patrizia_Asirelli, Massimo_Martinelli,
      Ovidio_Salvetti</dd>

      <dt>Chair</dt>

      <dd>JeffP</dd>

      <dt>Scribe</dt>

      <dd>raphael</dd>
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  <h2>Contents</h2>

  <ul>
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      <a href="#agenda">Topics</a>

      <ol>
        <li><a href="#item01">Admin</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item02">LIAISON (SWBPD)</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item03">XG Updates</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item04">Future Meetings</a></li>
      </ol>
    </li>

    <li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
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  <div class="meeting">
    <p class='phone'>&nbsp;</p>

    <p class='phone'>&nbsp;</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>giovannit</cite>&gt; re all</p>

    <p class='phone'>hi Giovanni</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>JeffP</cite>&gt; Hi Giovanni</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>giovannit</cite>&gt; Christian is not
    here today.. he regrets of being having a jolly great time on
    vacation in spain</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt; Scribe: raphael</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt; ScribeNick:
    raphael</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>giovannit</cite>&gt; (cheering crowd
    noieses at each name) :-)</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>giovannit</cite>&gt; sorry i am so new
    at these telecons i findit all very exciting (still?)</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>giovannit</cite>&gt; :-)</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenblas</cite>&gt; hi there
    ...</p>

    <p class='phone'>zakim +30231046aaaa is Stamatia</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenblas</cite>&gt; zakim this is
    mhausenblas</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenblas</cite>&gt; woh is here</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenblas</cite>&gt; who is here</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenblas</cite>&gt; zakim who is
    here</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>pasquale</cite>&gt; hi all, ciao
    ;-)</p>

    <p class='phone'>hi pasquale</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>pasquale</cite>&gt; hi raphael</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>giovannit</cite>&gt; me and w3c
    conference system dont get along too well</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>giovannit</cite>&gt; or its skype</p>

    <p class='phone'>you're only on IRC giovani ?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>giovannit</cite>&gt; i am joining</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>giovannit</cite>&gt; thanks to the
    operator</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>franz</cite>&gt; hi, its me, thomas
    (franz is my last name)</p>

    <h3 id="item01">Admin</h3>

    <p class='phone'>PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 20 July
    2006 telecon: <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html</a>
    ACCEPTED</p>

    <p class='phone'>Agenda amendments: talk about the 2
    deliverables</p>

    <p class='phone'>Agenda amendments: date for the 2nd F2F</p>

    <p class='phone'>PROPOSED next telecon 14 September 2006
    ACCEPTED</p>

    <h3 id="item02">LIAISON (SWBPD)</h3>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>JeffP</cite>&gt; Jeff: I will be
    travelling on Sept 14, but I think Raphael can manage</p>

    <p class='phone'>Issue, the document "Image annotation on the
    Semantic</p>

    <p class='phone'>Web"</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>VassilisT</cite>&gt; Hi all</p>

    <p class='phone'>should be finished by Sept 1st</p>

    <p class='phone'>hi Vassilis</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>pasquale</cite>&gt; hi Vassilis</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>VassilisT</cite>&gt; I will follow the
    meeting only by irc unfirtunatelly</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>JeffP</cite>&gt; Hi Vassilis, are you
    going to join the phone as well?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>anadiotis</cite>&gt; hi Vassili</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>giovannit</cite>&gt; is the SWBP group
    closing sept 1 then?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>giovannit</cite>&gt; is it continuing
    somehow?</p><a name="action01" id="action01"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Yannis to report back to the group
    about the outcome of the [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/08/31-mmsem-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2006/08/31-mmsem-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>

    <p class='phone'>MPEG7 liason attempts after a visit of ITI in
    Austria [recorded in</p>

    <p class='phone'><a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>giovannit</cite>&gt; jeff , very
    interesting indeed! any pointer?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>JeffP</cite>&gt; giovannit, it is not
    online yet, will send to the mailing list soon</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>JeffP</cite>&gt; it is about RDFS(FA),
    just for the record</p>

    <h3 id="item03">XG Updates</h3>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>JeffP</cite>&gt; <a href=
    "http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Aug/0000.html">
    http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Aug/0000.html</a></p>

    <p class='phone'>Music Use Case:</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Giovani:</cite> how to identify tracks,
    songs<br />
    ... Marie is listening a song and would like to find "similar"
    songs</p>

    <p class='phone'>Identifying files using MD5 ? MPEG-7 low level
    features ?</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Michael:</cite> separate the MPEG-7
    (profile) and RDF representations</p><a name="action02" id=
    "action02"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Thierry to write up limitations of
    MPEG-7 description schemes [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/08/31-mmsem-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2006/08/31-mmsem-minutes.html#action02</a>]</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>giovannit</cite>&gt; yes, lirics! i
    keep forgetting them sorry :-(</p>

    <p class='phone'>Thierry, not the good place. It is a more
    general problem</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Thierry:</cite> current work for
    aligning audio and text in music</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Giovani:</cite> include lyrics</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenblas</cite>&gt; update to music
    use case /me talking about <a href=
    "http://www.chiariglione.org/mpeg/standards/mpeg-7/mpeg-7.htm#E12E5">
    http://www.chiariglione.org/mpeg/standards/mpeg-7/mpeg-7.htm#E12E5</a></p>

    <p class='phone'>ID3 tags in RDF ?</p>

    <p class='phone'>Tagging Use Case:</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>george:</cite> EU project mentioned by
    Thomas (TAGORA ?)</p>

    <p class='phone'>thomas, can you write name, URL of this
    project ?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>susanne</cite>&gt; <a href=
    "http://www.tagora-project.eu/">http://www.tagora-project.eu/</a></p>

    <p class='phone'>Focus on interoperability issue</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Susanne:</cite> strong relationship with
    this use case with the use case "Semantics from Multimedia
    Authoring"</p>

    <p class='phone'>News Use case:</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Problems:</cite> many standards are
    used</p>

    <p class='phone'>Low level feature extraction Use case</p>

    <p class='phone'>IoannisPratikakis</p>

    <p class='phone'>?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenblas</cite>&gt; am I still
    muted?</p>

    <p class='phone'>yes</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>IoannisPratikakis</cite>&gt; there is
    a question whether the two cases will be fused</p>

    <p class='phone'>you were too noisy</p>

    <p class='phone'>Bio-medical Image Use Case</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Melli:</cite> no RDF representation of
    SNOMED yet<br />
    ... interoperability for describing the content of the
    images</p>

    <p class='phone'>though correspondance between medical
    ontologies</p>

    <p class='phone'>MESH, SNOMED, etc.</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenblas</cite>&gt; thanks raphael,
    i'll try to breath more quiet ;)</p>

    <p class='phone'>Semantics from Multimedia Authoring use
    case:</p>

    <p class='phone'>linked the 2 use cases explicitely</p>

    <p class='phone'>MPEG-7 metadata interoperability Use case</p>

    <p class='phone'>Various way to express the same thing in
    MPEG-7</p>

    <p class='phone'>Michael will work on it also</p>

    <p class='phone'>example ?</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Stamatia:</cite> yes we can provide
    some</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>giovannit</cite>&gt; as far as audio
    is concerned we addressed the syntactic problems with the
    mpeg-7audioDB, which basically normalizes different
    descriptionsions (at least tries to)</p>

    <h3 id="item04">Future Meetings</h3>

    <p class='phone'>Proposal for F2F number 2: 8-9 of December
    ?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>cgi-irc</cite>&gt; I need to leave -
    thanks all. - Melli</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>giovannit</cite>&gt; ops</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>giovannit</cite>&gt; sorry got
    disconnected</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>Jeff:</cite> ALL use the mailling list
    and the wiki</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mhausenblas</cite>&gt; ok bye ... see
    U all @ 2006/09/14</p><a name="action03" id="action03"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> ALL to update their wiki pages
    [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/08/31-mmsem-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2006/08/31-mmsem-minutes.html#action03</a>]</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>pasquale</cite>&gt; hi all, bye</p>
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  <h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
  Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> ALL to update
  their wiki pages [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2006/08/31-mmsem-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2006/08/31-mmsem-minutes.html#action03</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Thierry to write
  up limitations of MPEG-7 description schemes [recorded in
  <a href="http://www.w3.org/2006/08/31-mmsem-minutes.html#action02">
  http://www.w3.org/2006/08/31-mmsem-minutes.html#action02</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Yannis to report
  back to the group about the outcome of the [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2006/08/31-mmsem-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2006/08/31-mmsem-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br />

  &nbsp;<br />
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