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<li class="toclevel-1"><a href="#Agenda_Preparation"><span class="tocnumber">1</span> <span class="toctext">Agenda Preparation</span></a></li>
<li class="toclevel-1"><a href="#Participants"><span class="tocnumber">2</span> <span class="toctext">Participants</span></a></li>
<li class="toclevel-1"><a href="#Tuesday_2010-06-15.2C_09:00-18:00"><span class="tocnumber">3</span> <span class="toctext">Tuesday 2010-06-15, 09:00-18:00</span></a></li>
<li class="toclevel-1"><a href="#Wednesday_2010-06-16.2C_09:00-16:00"><span class="tocnumber">4</span> <span class="toctext">Wednesday 2010-06-16, 09:00-16:00</span></a></li>
<li class="toclevel-1"><a href="#Venue_Details"><span class="tocnumber">5</span> <span class="toctext">Venue Details</span></a>
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<li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#Hotel"><span class="tocnumber">5.1</span> <span class="toctext">Hotel</span></a></li>
<li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#Meeting_venue"><span class="tocnumber">5.2</span> <span class="toctext">Meeting venue</span></a></li>
<li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#How_to_get_to_..._Nice_and_your_Hotel"><span class="tocnumber">5.3</span> <span class="toctext">How to get to ... Nice and your Hotel</span></a></li>
<li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#How_to_get_to_..._EURECOM_from_your_Hotel"><span class="tocnumber">5.4</span> <span class="toctext">How to get to ... EURECOM from your Hotel</span></a></li>
<li class="toclevel-2"><a href="#Social_event"><span class="tocnumber">5.5</span> <span class="toctext">Social event</span></a></li>
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<a name="Agenda_Preparation" id="Agenda_Preparation"></a><h2> <span class="mw-headline"> Agenda Preparation </span></h2>
<ul><li> The <b>main</b> objective of this 6th F2F meeting is to <b>PUBLISH</b> a <b>LCWD</b> document for the specification.
</li><li> <b>When?</b>: Tuesday 15 and Wednesday 16 of June 2010
</li><li> <b>Where?</b>: EURECOM, Sophia Antipolis, France
</li></ul>
<a name="Participants" id="Participants"></a><h2> <span class="mw-headline"> Participants </span></h2>
<ul><li> Confirmed: Erik, Davy, Jack, Yves, Raphaël
</li><li> Observers: Wim (IBBT), Franck (Canon), Jakub Sendor (EURECOM)
</li><li> Remotes: Silvia, Michael, Conrad
</li><li> Regrets: Michael
</li><li> Unknown: Guillaume?, Philip?
</li></ul>
<p><b>Remotes Details:</b>
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<ul><li> Zakim Bridge US: +1-617-761-6200 | FR: +33.4.89.06.34.99 | UK: +44.117.370.6152
</li><li> Conference code: 3724# (spells "FRAG")
</li><li> IRC channel: #mediafrag on irc.w3.org:6665
</li></ul>
<a name="Tuesday_2010-06-15.2C_09:00-18:00" id="Tuesday_2010-06-15.2C_09:00-18:00"></a><h2> <span class="mw-headline"> Tuesday 2010-06-15, 09:00-18:00 </span></h2>
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<td width="15%"> 09:00 - 09:30
</td><td width="85%"> Administrative: coffee, agenda, etc.
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<td> 09:30 - 10:00
</td><td> Jakub/Raphael: <b>Media Fragments URI firefox plugin</b>
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<td> 10:00 - 11:00
</td><td> Yves: <b>Media Fragments URI syntax</b>
<ol><li> ACTION-152: Yves to change the formal syntax to reflect that we don't need a subdelim for selecting multiple tracks but we allow multiple track= in the URI
</li><li> ACTION-160: Yves to send an email reporting the issue for track names
</li><li> ACTION-170: Yves to send an email about metadata headers and 206 responses
</li></ol>
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<td> 11:00 - 11:30
</td><td> <b>Refreshment Break</b>
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<td> 11:30 - 12:30
</td><td> Yves/Jack: <b>Protocol Handling</b>
<ol><li> ACTION-166: Yves to review the ABNF syntax of the HTTP headers introduced by the Media Fragment URI spec
</li><li> ACTION-137: Jack to check that section 5.2 is implementable using the protocol
</li></ol>
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<td> 12:30 - 13:30
</td><td> <b>Lunch</b>
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<td> 13:30 - 15:30
</td><td> ALL: <b>Protocol Handling (cont.)</b>
<ol><li> Progress each of the dimensions towards LCWD
</li><li> Discuss in detail and decide what we are doing with the track, id, and xywh dimension
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<td> 15:30 - 16:00
</td><td> <b>Refreshment Break</b>
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<td> 16:00 - 18:00
</td><td> Michael/Erik: <b>Test Cases</b>
<ol><li> ACTION-146: Jack to identify and add in corrib any missing test cases for temporal fragments
<ul><li> See also: <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010May/0048.html" class="external free" title="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010May/0048.html" rel="nofollow">http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010May/0048.html</a>
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</li><li> ACTION-148: Michael to add a copy TC functionality in corrib
</li><li> ACTION-149: Michael to come up with a fix for overview vs. edit single TC in corrib
</li><li> ACTION-167: Erik to find license free movies for the automatic test suite ... starting with Elephant Dreams and the creative commons
</li><li> ACTION-168: Davy to investigate how the automatic test suite could also be done for evaluating the UA behavior
</li></ol>
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<a name="Wednesday_2010-06-16.2C_09:00-16:00" id="Wednesday_2010-06-16.2C_09:00-16:00"></a><h2> <span class="mw-headline"> Wednesday 2010-06-16, 09:00-16:00 </span></h2>
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<td width="15%"> 09:00 - 09:30
</td><td width="85%"> Administrative: coffee, agenda, etc.
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<td> 09:30 - 10:45
</td><td> Silvia/Davy: <b>Discovery of Track and Named fragments</b>
<ol><li> ISSUE-4: Should we pre-define some track names?
<ul><li> Davy's strawman implementation using ROE: <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Nov/0014.html" class="external free" title="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Nov/0014.html" rel="nofollow">http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Nov/0014.html</a>
</li><li> Silvia's blog post: <a href="http://blog.gingertech.net/2009/11/25/manifests-exposing-structure-of-a-composite-media-resource/" class="external free" title="http://blog.gingertech.net/2009/11/25/manifests-exposing-structure-of-a-composite-media-resource/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.gingertech.net/2009/11/25/manifests-exposing-structure-of-a-composite-media-resource/</a>
</li><li> Jack's proposal to write up that we should distinguish the mechanism (ROE, MPEG-21) vs the semantics
</li></ul>
</li></ol>
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<td> 10:45 - 11:15
</td><td> <b>Refreshment Break</b>
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<td> 11:15 - 12:30
</td><td> Jack: <b>Rendering of Media Fragments URI in UA</b>
<ol><li> ISSUE-5: Handling spatial cropping requires information at client-side
<ul><li> Image sprite in HTML5: <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010May/0061.html" class="external free" title="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010May/0061.html" rel="nofollow">http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010May/0061.html</a>
</li></ul>
</li></ol>
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<td> 12:30 - 13:30
</td><td> <b>Lunch</b>
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<td> 13:30 - 15:00
</td><td> ALL: <b>ISSUES</b>
<ol><li> ISSUE-6 [Jack]: Temporal clips that require transcoding
</li><li> ISSUE-7 [Michael]: User Agent Media Fragment Resolution and Processing
</li><li> ISSUE-9 [Michael]: Should we have the media type inside the Test Cases?
</li><li> ISSUE-12 [Raphael]: What's the relationship between Images (CSS) Sprites and the spatial dimension of the Media Fragments URI scheme?
</li><li> ISSUE-13 [Raphael]: Write a IETF draft for proposing how to register the fragment scheme for all media types
</li><li> ISSUE-14 [Davy]: How to deal with embedded time stamps
</li><li> ISSUE-16 [Jack]: Combining axis is probably not going to be done by LC, but we should write somewhere that this is doable
</li></ol>
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<td> 15:00 - 16:00
</td><td> Raphael: <b>Actions/Issues Discussion/Wrap up</b>
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<a name="Venue_Details" id="Venue_Details"></a><h2> <span class="mw-headline"> Venue Details </span></h2>
<a name="Hotel" id="Hotel"></a><h3> <span class="mw-headline"> Hotel </span></h3>
<p><a href="http://www.helvetique.com/" class="external text" title="http://www.helvetique.com/" rel="nofollow">Hotel Helvétique</a> in Nice. See also <a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Hotel+Helv%C3%A9tique,+Nice&sll=43.588301,7.103739&sspn=0.007149,0.01929&ie=UTF8&hq=Helv%C3%A9tique&hnear=Helv%C3%A9tique,+47,+Rue+de+l%27H%C3%B4tel+des+Postes,+06000+Nice,+France&ll=43.706415,7.27046&spn=0.02699,0.077162&z=14&iwloc=A" class="external text" title="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Hotel+Helv%C3%A9tique,+Nice&sll=43.588301,7.103739&sspn=0.007149,0.01929&ie=UTF8&hq=Helv%C3%A9tique&hnear=Helv%C3%A9tique,+47,+Rue+de+l%27H%C3%B4tel+des+Postes,+06000+Nice,+France&ll=43.706415,7.27046&spn=0.02699,0.077162&z=14&iwloc=A" rel="nofollow">on Google Maps</a>.
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<ul><li> 47 Rue de l'Hôtel des Postes, NICE
</li><li> TEL: +33 (0)4 93 62 15 55; FAX: +33 (0)4 93 92 55 15
</li><li> Email: contact@helvetique.com
</li><li> Ask for the EURECOM discount rate. There is Free WiFi in the Hotel.
</li></ul>
<a name="Meeting_venue" id="Meeting_venue"></a><h3> <span class="mw-headline"> Meeting venue </span></h3>
<p><a href="http://www.eurecom.fr/index.en.htm" class="external text" title="http://www.eurecom.fr/index.en.htm" rel="nofollow">EURECOM</a> in Sophia Antipolis. See also <a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Institut+EURECOM&sll=46.945892,5.436694&sspn=13.803844,39.506836&ie=UTF8&hq=Institut+EURECOM&hnear=&ll=43.648746,7.047043&spn=0.114275,0.308647&z=12&iwloc=A" class="external text" title="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Institut+EURECOM&sll=46.945892,5.436694&sspn=13.803844,39.506836&ie=UTF8&hq=Institut+EURECOM&hnear=&ll=43.648746,7.047043&spn=0.114275,0.308647&z=12&iwloc=A" rel="nofollow">on Google Maps</a>
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<a name="How_to_get_to_..._Nice_and_your_Hotel" id="How_to_get_to_..._Nice_and_your_Hotel"></a><h3> <span class="mw-headline"> How to get to ... Nice and your Hotel </span></h3>
<p>Nice airport: <a href="http://www.nice.aeroport.fr/?l=2" class="external free" title="http://www.nice.aeroport.fr/?l=2" rel="nofollow">http://www.nice.aeroport.fr/?l=2</a>. Daily flights to/from Amsterdam (AirFrance/KLM or Transavia). Daily flights to Brussels. From the airport, you can:
</p>
<ul><li> Take a taxi to directly to your hotel. It should cost between 22 and 30 €
</li><li> Take the shuttle bus n°98 to Nice city center, see the <a href="http://www.nice.aeroport.fr/acces_stationnement_en/bus/recherche.asp?dest_id={6ED478A1-D897-48A2-B320-900EE02EE24F}" class="external text" title="http://www.nice.aeroport.fr/acces_stationnement_en/bus/recherche.asp?dest_id={6ED478A1-D897-48A2-B320-900EE02EE24F}" rel="nofollow">timetables</a>, 4 €
</li></ul>
<a name="How_to_get_to_..._EURECOM_from_your_Hotel" id="How_to_get_to_..._EURECOM_from_your_Hotel"></a><h3> <span class="mw-headline"> How to get to ... EURECOM from your Hotel </span></h3>
<ul><li> The easiest way is clearly to take a taxi, but it should cost you around 60 €
</li><li> Another way is to sync with Yves, who lives in downtown Nice (close to your hotel) and will most likely drive to Sophia Antipolis
</li><li> The more painful way is to take the bus n°230 from the train station (close to your hotel) and get down in the stop names "Garbejaire". See the <a href="http://www.cg06.fr/cms/cg06/upload/servir-les-habitants/fr/files/230.pdf" class="external text" title="http://www.cg06.fr/cms/cg06/upload/servir-les-habitants/fr/files/230.pdf" rel="nofollow">timetables</a>. From Garbejaire, EURECOM is 5 min walk, assuming you know where you're heading to :-). The good thing is this way will cost you just 1€
</li></ul>
<a name="Social_event" id="Social_event"></a><h3> <span class="mw-headline"> Social event </span></h3>
<p><b>Surprise</b> on Tuesday Evening :)
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