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<h1>W3C Media Fragments WG Telecon - 29/04/2009 12:00 UTC</h1>
<h2>29 Apr 2009</h2>
<p><a href=
'http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Apr/0146.html'>
Agenda</a></p>
<p>See also: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/29-mediafrag-irc">IRC log</a></p>
<h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>
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<dl>
<dt>Present</dt>
<dd>Michael, Erik, Yves, Raphael, Silvia</dd>
<dt>Regrets</dt>
<dd>Conrad, Davy</dd>
<dt>Chair</dt>
<dd>Erik, Raphael</dd>
<dt>Scribe</dt>
<dd>raphael</dd>
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<h2>Contents</h2>
<ul>
<li>
<a href="#agenda">Topics</a>
<ol>
<li><a href="#item01">1/ ADMIN</a></li>
<li><a href="#item02">2. UC & Requirements</a></li>
<li><a href="#item03">3. Specification</a></li>
<li><a href="#item04">4. Test Cases</a></li>
<li><a href="#item05">5. Issues</a></li>
<li><a href="#item06">6. AOB</a></li>
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<li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
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<div class="meeting">
<p class='phone'> </p>
<p class='phone'> </p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> Scribe: raphael</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> scribenick:
raphael</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> Zakim mute me</p>
<h3 id="item01">1/ ADMIN</h3>
<p class='phone'>Proposed to accept te minutes of April 8,
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/08-mediafrag-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/08-mediafrag-minutes.html</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='phone'>Propose to accept the minutes of the f2f
meeting: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/16-mediafrag-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/16-mediafrag-minutes.html</a>
and <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediafrag-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediafrag-minutes.html</a></p>
<p class='phone'><strong class='resolution'>RESOLUTION: all
minutes approved</strong></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> +1+1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Zakim</cite>> mhausenblas, you
wanted to comment on ACTION-65</p>
<p class='phone'>Next f2f meeting in September, possibly in
Amsterdam, on 17-18/09</p>
<h3 id="item02">2. UC & Requirements</h3>
<p class='phone'>I have re-issued the transition request</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>scribe:</cite> I'm waiting for
Philippe's yes<br />
... before splitting the document and advertizing the other
groups to review our document</p>
<p class='phone'>close ACTON-51</p>
<p class='phone'>close ACTION-51</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-51
Summarize the content of the wiki page to put in the main
document, with few examples and a short story closed</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> done just before the
F2F meeting</p>
<h3 id="item03">3. Specification</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>Yves:</cite> will do my action in the
next 2 weeks</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Zakim</cite>> mhausenblas, you
wanted to comment on structure of the WD</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Erik:</cite> regarding action-67, I will
provide an example</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Michael:</cite> I want to talk about
action-64<br />
... I want to change the structure of this sub-section, this is
the processing model<br />
... and discuss what's happen on the UA side, and on the server
side</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> +1 for Michael's
suggestion for the next iteration of the WD</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> so the suggestion is
to rename 6.4 to Processing?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> +1 for next
iteration</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> 6.4 ->
Interpretation and Processing of MF</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> good, like it</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Michael:</cite> but not talk about
semantics</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> 6.4.1
Overview</p>
<p class='phone'>+1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> 6.4.2 UA
view</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> 6.4.3
Server</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Conrad:</cite> I hope to complete my
actions 63 and 69 later this week</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> Michael:
thanks, will do after splitting of docs</p>
<h3 id="item04">4. Test Cases</h3>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/TestCasesOverview">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/TestCasesOverview</a></p>
<p class='phone'>Actual test cases: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/TestCases">http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/TestCases</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Michael:</cite> I motivated first the
need for test cases<br />
... I then provided examples of test cases, these need to be
approved</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Apr/0135.html">
TC setup</a></p>
<p class='phone'>Email and issues from Michael: <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Apr/0135.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Apr/0135.html</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> no value means by
default for the temporal dimension the start time (end time) of
the resource</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Yves:</cite> empty is different than not
present ... i.e. sometimes, the dimension is not present,
sometimes we have the default value</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Michael:</cite> please, review the Test
Cases, edit the wiki, mail the mailing list<br />
... the intention is to go away from the wiki asap<br />
... since it is really painful</p>
<h3 id="item05">5. Issues</h3>
<p class='phone'>ISSUE-3?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ISSUE-3 -- Does
our MF URI syntax imply that we need to update MIME Type
registrations? -- OPEN</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/3">http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/3</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Michael:</cite> good news, no IANA
registries for fragments on media mime types</p><a name=
"action01" id="action01"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Erik to contact the editors of MPEG-21
Part 17 regarding the registry of their scheme [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/29-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/29-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-76
- Contact the editors of MPEG-21 Part 17 regarding the registry
of their scheme [on Erik Mannens - due 2009-05-06].</p>
<p class='phone'>ISSUE-4?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ISSUE-4 -- Should
we pre-define some track names? -- OPEN</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/4">http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/4</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Silvia:</cite> I still think we need to
pre-define some track names<br />
... I will wait for Conrad's action<br />
... not sure I understant it</p>
<p class='phone'>ACTION-7?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-7 -- Yves
Lafon to request a new time slot on the Zakim bridge -- due
2008-10-28 -- CLOSED</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/7">http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/7</a></p>
<p class='phone'>ISSUE-7?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ISSUE-7 -- User
Agent Media Fragment Resolution and Processing -- OPEN</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/7">http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/7</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/UserAgentMediaFragmentResolution">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/UserAgentMediaFragmentResolution</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> I have finally
understood this issue, this is the UA point of view of what's
hapening</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Michael:</cite> regarding the step
2<br />
... I'm referring to Common User Agent Problems</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> foo#bar in a redirect
is currently not allowed</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Michael:</cite> I just write the various
possibilities<br />
... perhaps we should just have the default behavior fallback,
stating that the UA should write valid MF URI</p><a name=
"action02" id="action02"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Yves to investigate what's happened
when facing an invalid Media Fragment URI, re step 2 of
<a href="http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/UserAgentMediaFragmentResolution">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/UserAgentMediaFragmentResolution</a>
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/29-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/29-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-77
- Investigate what's happened when facing an invalid Media
Fragment URI, re step 2 of <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/UserAgentMediaFragmentResolution">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/UserAgentMediaFragmentResolution</a>
[on Yves Lafon - due 2009-05-06].</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> ok, understood
:)</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Michael:</cite> I will put this
description and diagram in the document ... instead of
semantics -> processing of the media fragments</p>
<p class='phone'>ISSUE-8?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ISSUE-8 -- Missing
collection of MF WG decisions -- OPEN</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/8">http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/8</a></p>
<p class='phone'>Do we want a wiki page that centralizes all
the resolution?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Silvia:</cite> I think the issues page
barely captures that</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Michael:</cite> I don't think so</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Silvia:</cite> the page captures our
discussion, but I agree does not endorse the decision</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Michael:</cite> can we misuse the
tracker?</p>
<p class='phone'>We have resolved all the polls</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Michael:</cite> I volunteer to maintain
this page if chairs create it</p>
<p class='phone'>trackbot, status?</p><a name="action03" id=
"action03"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Raphaël to draft a wiki page for
centralizing all decisions [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/29-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/29-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-78
- Draft a wiki page for centralizing all decisions [on Raphaël
Troncy - due 2009-05-06].</p>
<h3 id="item06">6. AOB</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>Michael:</cite> any news from the TAG
regarding their latest finding, hash in uri?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mhausenblas</cite>> Michael thanks
raphael for his great double role in scribing and chairing
;)</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> I will do that later
this afternoon</p>
<p class='phone'>no AOB?</p>
<p class='phone'>meeting adjourned</p>
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<h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Erik to contact
the editors of MPEG-21 Part 17 regarding the registry of their
scheme [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/29-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/29-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Raphaël to draft
a wiki page for centralizing all decisions [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/29-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/29-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Yves to
investigate what's happened when facing an invalid Media Fragment
URI, re step 2 of <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/UserAgentMediaFragmentResolution">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/UserAgentMediaFragmentResolution</a>
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/04/29-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2009/04/29-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02</a>]<br />
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