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<h1>- DRAFT -</h1>
<h1>Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference</h1>
<h2>02 Feb 2011</h2>
<p><a href=
'http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Feb/0000.html'>
Agenda</a></p>
<p>See also: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2011/02/02-mediafrag-irc">IRC log</a></p>
<h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>
<div class="intro">
<dl>
<dt>Present</dt>
<dd>Yves, Erik, Davy, Silvia, Thomas</dd>
<dt>Regrets</dt>
<dd>Raphael, Philip</dd>
<dt>Chair</dt>
<dd>Erik</dd>
<dt>Scribe</dt>
<dd>silvia</dd>
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<h2>Contents</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="#agenda">Topics</a></li>
<li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
</ul>
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<p class='phone'></p>
<p class='phone'></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Date: 02 February
2011</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> Date: 2 February
2011</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> scribe: silvia</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tomayac</cite>> +1 to accept</p>
<p class='phone'>TOPIC 1 ADMIN:</p>
<p class='phone'>* Roll call</p>
<p class='phone'>* PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the last
week telecon:</p>
<p class='phone'><a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2011/01/19-mediafrag-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2011/01/19-mediafrag-minutes.html</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>davy</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='phone'>TOPIC 2. MEDIA FRAGMENT SPECIFICATION</p>
<p class='phone'>* ACTION-196: Raphaël to address comments from
the Media Annotations WG and draft a reply</p>
<p class='phone'>Raphael will do the edits tonight or
tomorrow</p>
<p class='phone'>* ACTION-210: Davy to add the RTSP processing
section as an appendix to the main document</p>
<p class='phone'>Davy just committed the changes</p>
<p class='phone'>close ACTION-210</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-210 Add the
RTSP processing section as an appending to the main document
closed</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tomayac</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='phone'>* PROPOSAL: group vote on transition to
another LCWD</p>
<p class='phone'>Philippe is on holidays, but we need his
input</p>
<p class='phone'>we will have a final go at this on Monday 16th
Feb</p>
<p class='phone'>since Philippe is on holidays until 11th
Feb</p>
<p class='phone'>we can still prepare the resolution amongst
us</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> +1 on LCWG</p>
<p class='phone'>we only need agreement from Philippe on
Issue-19</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>vote:</cite> is everyone ok to go to
LC#2 ?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>davy</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='phone'>+1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tomayac</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='phone'><strong class='resolution'>RESOLUTION: we will
go to LC#2 on 16th Feb pending agreement from Philippe and no
disagreement from other WG members</strong></p>
<p class='phone'>TOPIC 3. HTML5 / WHATWG Liaiso</p>
<p class='phone'>* HTML5 bug follow-up: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10723">http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10723</a></p>
<p class='phone'>Silvia's reply: <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Feb/0001.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Feb/0001.html</a></p>
<p class='phone'>suggestion to create 6 new bugs to follow up
on the previously rejected parts of the previous bug</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Thomas:</cite> suggests to make sure we
only refer to the media fragement URIs that use "#" in the
bugs</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tomayac</cite>> suggestion to add a
clarification that in the bug if we say "media fragment", we
exclusively talk about fragments in the hash (#t, #xywh,
etc.)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2011/01/19-mediafrag-minutes.html#item03">http://www.w3.org/2011/01/19-mediafrag-minutes.html#item03</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Yves:</cite> we should only do bugs on
the end time and what happens with @loop</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>silvia:</cite> let's discuss this in
email</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Yves:</cite> restart a new
thread</p><a name="action01" id="action01"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> silvia to start a new thread on what
bugs to submit to HTML5 [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2011/02/02-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2011/02/02-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-211
- Start a new thread on what bugs to submit to HTML5 [on Silvia
Pfeiffer - due 2011-02-09].</p>
<p class='phone'>TOPIC 4. IMPLEMENTATIONS</p>
<p class='phone'>* ACTION-203: Thomas to build a media fragment
URI parser in javascript</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>thomas:</cite> have implemented a
library that should cover all our specifications</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tomayac</cite>> <a href=
"http://tomayac.com/mediafragments/mediafragments.html">http://tomayac.com/mediafragments/mediafragments.html</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>thomas:</cite> do play with it and try
to break it<br />
... it has a couple of basic checks<br />
... available on Github</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> we should test the
output of this and <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/code/grammar/">http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/code/grammar/</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> so have a bigger test
suite for that</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>thomas:</cite> there is a unit test in
the Github code</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tomayac</cite>> unittests.html,
based on QUnit</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tomayac</cite>> <a href=
"https://github.com/tomayac/Media-Fragments-URI/blob/master/unittests.html">
https://github.com/tomayac/Media-Fragments-URI/blob/master/unittests.html</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tomayac</cite>> congratulations,
yves! enjoy your sleep while you can ;-)</p>
<p class='phone'>close Action-203</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-203 Build a
media fragment URI parser in javascript closed</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tomayac</cite>> yay :-)</p>
<p class='phone'>TOPIC 5. OPEN ISSUES</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tomayac</cite>> thanks. @cramforce
helped with the design.</p>
<p class='phone'>issues 17 and 20 need Raphael and the rest of
the group here</p>
<p class='phone'>they won't block our next LC though</p>
<p class='phone'>to be done in upcoming weeks</p>
<p class='phone'>TOPIC 6. TEST CASES</p>
<p class='phone'>* ACTION-209: Davy to convert TCs from the
wiki to an RDF version</p>
<p class='phone'>close Action-209</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-209 Convert
TCs from the wiki to an RDF version closed</p>
<p class='phone'>once we are in last call we have to check all
the test cases</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Davy:</cite> we only have temporal test
cases right now, not spatial and track, so would appreciate
such contributions</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tomayac</cite>> i have couple of
combined cases</p>
<p class='phone'>we test both test cases that should succeed
and such that should fail</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tomayac</cite>> check the
unittests.html file</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>davy</cite>> will do, thx</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tomayac</cite>> i have failing and
success cases</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tomayac</cite>> the expected output
for invalid cases is simply empty object</p>
<p class='phone'>TOPIC 7. Use Cases and Requirements</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Erik:</cite> most of these are for the
next version</p>
<p class='phone'>TOPIC 8. Movie Examples</p>
<p class='phone'>ok</p>
<p class='phone'>TOPIC 9. AOB</p>
<p class='phone'>Thomas is currently working on converting the
client side application to be more an API</p>
<p class='phone'>changing the RDF to be based on media
fragments</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tomayac</cite>> bye. have a good
one!</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tomayac</cite>> yves, good
luck!!!</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> Thanks Silvia for
Scibing & have a nice week !!! Take to you all next
week</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia1</cite>> ah, you closed the
meeting :)</p>
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<h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> silvia to start a
new thread on what bugs to submit to HTML5 [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2011/02/02-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2011/02/02-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br />
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