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<h1>Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference</h1>
<h2>05 May 2010</h2>
<p><a href=
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Agenda</a></p>
<p>See also: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/05/05-mediafrag-irc">IRC log</a></p>
<h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>
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<dt>Present</dt>
<dd>+49.300.aaaa, +0329331aabb, Erik</dd>
<dt>Regrets</dt>
<dd>Michael, Jack, Conrad, Davy</dd>
<dt>Chair</dt>
<dd>Raphael</dd>
<dt>Scribe</dt>
<dd>raphael</dd>
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<h2>Contents</h2>
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<li><a href="#agenda">Topics</a></li>
<li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
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<p class='phone'></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Date: 05 May
2010</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> 15 min waiting, no sign
of Yves, all others have sent regrets :-(<br />
... no need for Silvia for dialing<br />
... suggest to cancel the telecon<br />
... express deep concern about the lack of progress<br />
... 14 overdue actions, how should we deal with that?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> you will need to
chase up ppl directly</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> not just through the
meeting, but during the week</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> it's not happening
otherwise</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> I guess that's part
of a chair's job, as unfortunate as it is</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> btw: how was the
conference?</p>
<p class='phone'>Erik and I did chase the people all over this
week ... emailing and phoning!</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> oh wow</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> can some actions be
re-distributed?</p>
<p class='phone'>It is not enough apparently :-(</p>
<p class='phone'>This is what I think we should do</p>
<p class='phone'>Yves is apparently in forced holidays until
end of May ... but told us he would be able to work anyway</p>
<p class='phone'>The WWW conference was great, media fragments
was presented twice, during the Developer's Track and during
the HTML5 track</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>scribe:</cite> slides are online:
<a href=
"http://www.slideshare.net/troncy/implementing-the-media-fragments-uri-specification">
http://www.slideshare.net/troncy/implementing-the-media-fragments-uri-specification</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> good feedback?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>scribe:</cite> Davy made twice the
Ninsuna demo</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> did you present all
cases, also the one Yves is still working on?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> ohhhh - you should
have put the Mozilla logo on for me, not Vquence</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> but never mind
:)</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>scribe:</cite> very good feedback from
the participants, yes we present the 4 scenarios</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> any concerns by
ppl?</p>
<p class='phone'>[meeting adjourned]</p>
<p class='phone'>people were enthousiastic with the work
done</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> excellent</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>scribe:</cite> I have also shown the
Firefox plugin we are developing in EURECOM, and that I hope to
release very soon</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> could Davy record
his demo and publish the screencast somewhere (youtube?)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> oh nice!</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> same request there -
do make a screencast!</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>scribe:</cite> we had another great idea
with Davy: that I could have a parameter in my plugin to proxy
the request for media fragments towards Ninsuna<br />
... so that for any videos, if you decide to proxy it ... then
you can get Ninunsa serving you media fragments of any
videos<br />
... of course, if ALl the web does that, poor Davy's mcahine
will be killed, but for a demo purpose, it could be great<br />
... good idea for the screencast, I believe indeed we should
make one</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> hahaha - poor
Davy!</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> yeah, screencasts
will give you exposure to a larger audience</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> they will also
explain better what should happen</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> I think it will be
easy to explain to the browser vendors what to implement</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> I'd just like to
resolve to error cases before moving it forward</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> I might start an
email discussion on the mailing list for it - seems that might
get us a little progress at least</p>
<p class='phone'>yep, I mention a patch currently submitted to
Mozilla by Dailymotion for better interaction with the media
player of the browser if receiving just video fragment</p>
<p class='phone'>I will comment as well on your action 161</p>
<p class='phone'>tonight most likely</p>
<p class='phone'>need to get some work done! and more
important, get in touch with Yves to see whether we should
re-allocate his actions NOW or not</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> yeah - I'd be happy
to work on some of them</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> what's Dailymotion's
patch?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> it implements media
fragments?</p>
<p class='phone'>yeah, before we made it :-)</p>
<p class='phone'>Dailymotion has made its implementation of
media fragments, slightly different syntax, and keep it secret
:-)</p>
<p class='phone'>now, they will be full W3C spec compliant</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> oh! how is it
different?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>scribe:</cite> they submitted a patch a
year ago to mozilla, for the issues we are talking about, but
the patch has not yet been included in the main release</p>
<p class='phone'>I need to find the number and relaunch the
process, I'm working on that with DM</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> cool</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> I can get the right
ppl to look at it if you point me to it</p>
<p class='phone'>ok, good to know, I will first find the patch
in the mozilla trunk and then, once I got the URI, get in touch
with you :-)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> cool</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> caption support is
going into HTML5 as we speak</p>
<p class='phone'>my student, developing the media fragments ff
plugin, might ask you some questions too</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> chapter tracks,
too</p>
<p class='phone'>yep, I noticed the news :-)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> and the javascript
api</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> then we will be able
to address by name, too</p>
<p class='phone'>wonderful, it is moving forward</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> sure, go ahead with
any questions</p>
<p class='phone'>great, I let you have your dinner, I need to
have some work _done_ :-)</p>
<p class='phone'>Talk to you next week, hopefully !</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> just prepared the
schnitzel</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> will now have to
cook them!</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> yeah - let's hope we
have some progress then</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> ciao!</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> scribenick:
raphael</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>silvia</cite>> good talking with
you, btw ;)</p>
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<h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
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