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  <h1>Multimedia Semantics XG - Telecon 20-07-2006</h1>

  <h2>20 Jul 2006</h2>

  <p><a href=
  'http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Jul/0022.html'>
  Agenda</a></p>

  <p>See also: <a href="http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-irc">IRC
  log</a></p>

  <h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>

  <div class="intro">
    <dl>
      <dt>Present</dt>

      <dd>Raphael, Vassilis, Giovanni, JeffP, Yannis, Chris, Melli,
      Vasileios, Susanne, Jacco, Ioannis, Stamatia, Massimo_(IRC),
      Allessio_(IRC)</dd>

      <dt>Regrets</dt>

      <dd>Ovidio, Patrizia, Pasquale, Thierry, Paul, Stephan,
      Thomas</dd>

      <dt>Chair</dt>

      <dd>JeffP</dd>

      <dt>Scribe</dt>

      <dd>Jacco, Raphael</dd>
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  <h2>Contents</h2>

  <ul>
    <li>
      <a href="#agenda">Topics</a>

      <ol>
        <li><a href="#item01">ADMIN</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item02">LIAISON (SWBPD)</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item03">XG UPDATES</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item04">3.6 Other use case ?</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item05">AOB</a></li>
      </ol>
    </li>

    <li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
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  <div class="meeting">
    <p class='phone'>&nbsp;</p>

    <p class='phone'>&nbsp;</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>JeffP</cite>&gt; hi raphael</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>giovannit</cite>&gt; 1,2,3 in the
    place to be</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>giovannit</cite>&gt; (-:</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>JeffP</cite>&gt; Hi giovannit</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>giovannit</cite>&gt; hi Jeff :-)</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>JeffP</cite>&gt; giovannit, I hope we
    can sort out the wiki issue soon</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>giovannit</cite>&gt; I am impressed by
    the apparent complexity of it all :-)</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Hi Giovanni</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Scribe: Jacco,
    Raphael</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; ScribeNick:
    raphael, jrvosse</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; zakim Vassilis.a is
    Yannis</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; zakim [UMD] is
    Crhis</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>giovannit</cite>&gt; zakim mute me</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>christian</cite>&gt; hello there</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; zak</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>christian</cite>&gt; could someone
    remind me which is thecode to enter the teleconf?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>vasileios</cite>&gt; hi, this is
    vasileios and stamatia from ITI Thessaloniki</p>

    <h3 id="item01">ADMIN</h3>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>anadiotis</cite>&gt; hello all, i have
    some technical issues with the phone connection, and i don't
    know when/if i'll be able to join you by phone, but i'm
    here</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Massimo</cite>&gt; hi All</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>IoannisPratikakis</cite>&gt; hello,
    from IIT / NCSR"Demokritos", Athens, Greece</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; PROPOSED to accept
    the minutes of the 22 June 2006 telecon:</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/06/22-mmsem-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2006/06/22-mmsem-minutes.html</a></p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; ACCEPTED</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; PROPOSED to accept
    the minutes of the 10-11 July 2006 F2F meeting:</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/07/10-mmsem-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2006/07/10-mmsem-minutes.html</a></p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/07/11-mmsem-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2006/07/11-mmsem-minutes.html</a></p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; ACCEPTED</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; PROPOSED next
    telecon 31 August 2006</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; ACCEPTED</p>

    <h3 id="item02">LIAISON (SWBPD)</h3>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>JeffP</cite>&gt; <a href=
    "http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Jul/0043.html">
    http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Jul/0043.html</a></p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Comments on working
    draft, Jeff and Massimo have sent comments, these have been
    addressed</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>giovannit</cite>&gt; yup .. its not
    something you can comment that quickly i think</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Jeff: It is really
    important, please have a look</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Melli: it is on my
    todo list for next week</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>JeffP</cite>&gt; <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Liaison">http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Liaison</a></p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Still important to
    get comments as soon as possible</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>vassilisT</cite>&gt; there is big
    echo</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>christian</cite>&gt; yup</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Jeff: Liasons are
    important</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Rapael: this also
    depends on the use cases</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>vassilisT</cite>&gt; jacco what is
    going on?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>giovannit</cite>&gt; so its anediotis
    :-)</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>JeffP</cite>&gt; thanks</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>giovannit</cite>&gt; busted.. ;-)</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>giovannit</cite>&gt; yup and I would
    have in fact started..</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Raphael: We should
    also put the resource pages on the wiki</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Rapael: Giovanni
    volunteered, are there any others?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; not much work, just
    maintain on basis of input of others</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Raphael explains
    Resource, Tools and Vocabularies to Susanne</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>christian</cite>&gt; Of course I
    voulunteered automatically along with giovanni :-)</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Yannis about MPEG7
    liason</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; There is a MPEG
    this week in Austria, colleague of yannis is visiting this and
    talk to people for liason work</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; action for Yannis
    to report back to the group about the outcome of the MPEG7
    liason attempts</p><a name="action01" id="action01"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Yannis to report back to the group
    about the outcome of the MPEG7 liason attempts [recorded in
    <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>

    <h3 id="item03">XG UPDATES</h3>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Jeff explains about
    the WIKI pages being about work in progress</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Music Use
    Case</p><a name="action02" id="action02"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> iovanni to coordinate write up of a
    use case on music [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action02</a>]</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; DONE, see <a href=
    "http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Jul/0036.html">
    http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2006Jul/0036.html</a></p><a name="action03"
    id="action03"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Giovanni to coordinate write up of a
    use case on music: CONTINUED [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action03</a>]</p><a name="action04"
    id="action04"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Patrizia to find pointer to the Vienna
    tool (music use case): DONE [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action04</a>]</p><a name="action05"
    id="action05"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Thierry to write up limitations of
    MPEG-7 description schemes: CONTINUED [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action05</a>]</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; all, please comment
    on the use cases using the wiki pages directly</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Susanne: can new
    use cases still be added</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; YES</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; raphael: sure!</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Tagging Use
    Case</p><a name="action06" id="action06"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> George to write up a use case around
    tagging: CONTINUED [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action06</a>]</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>giovannit</cite>&gt; ar ethere URI for
    the use cases already?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Giovanni: <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Tagging_Use_Case">http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Tagging_Use_Case</a></p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Susanne: there will
    be an paper on the ACM multimedia conference on
    averaging/harmonizing the ratings on images of different
    websites</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Susanne: this is
    just a first step, but having exchangable metadata would be the
    next</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Susanne: title
    should be something along the lines of "Media tagging"</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Susanne will join
    the effort on this use case</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; News Use
    case:</p><a name="action07" id="action07"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Raphael to write up use case in the
    news domain: PENDING (waiting for IPTC green light) [recorded
    in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action07</a>]</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Algorithm
    representation Use case:</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Algorithm_representation_Use_case">
    http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/mmsem/wiki/Algorithm_representation_Use_case</a></p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Massimo ?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Massimo</cite>&gt; yes</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Massimo</cite>&gt; (sorry for the
    phone)</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>giovannit</cite>&gt; i join Jacco in
    his request for more details about this use case</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; massimo do you have
    comment on the use case ?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; massimo, I put a
    comment on the wiki, could you respond to that</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Massimo</cite>&gt; i'm going to see
    it</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>anadiotis</cite>&gt; i agree with
    jacco too</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Low level feature
    extraction Use case:</p><a name="action08" id="action08"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Massimo to write up use case on
    analysis and reproducing: CONTINUED [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action08</a>]</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>giovannit</cite>&gt; please someone
    who can create the wiki page :-)</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Vassilis: two
    contributions from ITI, one emphasising on the low level, the
    other on the bridge between the low and high level ones</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Raphael: Please
    note the W3C policies, do not attach unless necesarry, if you
    need to do so, please in HTML</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>vasileios</cite>&gt; actually, one
    contribution is from NCSR (Ioannis) and the other from ITI
    Thessaloniki (Vasileios)</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>IoannisPratikakis</cite>&gt; thanks,
    vasileios</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>anadiotis</cite>&gt; Raphael: is it
    possible to merge the 2 use cases?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; VasillisT: Maybe
    should continue to work like this, can merge later</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>IoannisPratikakis</cite>&gt; For the
    moment, I agree with VasillisT</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Ionnis: I think it
    would be good to merge these</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>IoannisPratikakis</cite>&gt; It's
    better that the current documents become more mature</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>IoannisPratikakis</cite>&gt; After a
    second round we merge them</p>

    <h3 id="item04">3.6 Other use case ?</h3><a name="action09" id=
    "action09"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Iioanis to write up use case showing
    the need for semantic interpretation of low level features
    (Ioannis and Vasileios, 2 documents): CONTINUED [recorded in
    <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action09">http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action09</a>]</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Media Use case</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Raphael: how
    realistic is that we can get datasets for this use case?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; VassilisT: we have
    data from a national project and think it is
    feasible</p><a name="action10" id="action10"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Vassilis to continue the Media use
    case [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action10">http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action10</a>]</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Raphael: for
    everyone not at the f2f: feel free to join activity on existing
    use cases or add a new use case</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; If you are not
    assigned to a use case yet, please speak up</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Chris: will read
    through the current use cases</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Melli: same for
    me</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; raphael: yannis,
    what are your plans on the use case?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Massimo</cite>&gt; to help taking
    decisions</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; zakim q-</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Yannis: I think the
    low level uses cases are covered, might think about a new
    one</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Jacco on medical
    use case, forgot that there was already a use case on the image
    annotation draft from SWBPD WG</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Actkion: Melli
    propose a use case on bio-medicale images</p><a name="action11"
    id="action11"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Melli propose a use case on
    bio-medicale images [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action11">http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action11</a>]</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>JeffP</cite>&gt; 4. Future
    Metings:</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Susanne: will read
    through use cases and decide later</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>giovannit</cite>&gt; @ISWC!</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Zakim</cite>&gt; jrvosse, you wanted
    to speak on medical use case</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>christian</cite>&gt; At ISWC would be
    better for me and Giovanni</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Next f2f meeting:
    two proposals: athens greece, SAMT or athens georgia, at
    ISWC</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chalaschek</cite>&gt; I also vote for
    ISWC</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Susanne: is ACM MM
    an option?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Raphael: October is
    too early ...</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Chris: the two
    venues I checked only have a room for one day</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Raphael: most
    participants come from europe, only 2 from US. Also there are
    (too) many events already around ISWC</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Raphael: for the US
    particpants, is there any possibility you could make it to
    Europe?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Melli &amp; Chris:
    we could, just depends on budget issues, needto get improval
    first</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Yannis: On the 7th
    of December we have two rooms, on the 8th we have one extra
    room available</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Jeff, how big is
    this room?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Yannis: smallest
    rooms are around 25, that should be sufficient</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>IoannisPratikakis</cite>&gt; Just
    consider that NCSR"Demokritos", could also host the f2f
    meeting</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Raphael: PROPOSAL:
    co-locate next f2f with SAMT in Athens, Greece.</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Yannis: network
    access might be a problem, we are currently negociating about
    wlan network access</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Yannis: it is in a
    hotel, we do not have everything under control</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Vassilis: we could
    do it just after samt, on the campus</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Vassilis: during
    SAMT or right after</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>giovannit</cite>&gt; sorry.. was
    away.. they're both fine. I'd rather @iswc though</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>christian</cite>&gt; I agree with
    giovanni, ISWC would be better but it ok anyway</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chalaschek</cite>&gt; echo again</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; massimo: SAMT ? or
    ISWC for the next F2F ?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Raphael: PROPOSAL:
    co-locate next f2f with SAMT in Athens, Greece.</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; ACCEPTED</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Votes for SAMT:
    Raphael, Vassilis, Jacco, Vassileios, Susanne, George</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>IoannisPratikakis</cite>&gt; I also
    vote for SAMT</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Massimo</cite>&gt; I also vote for
    SAMT</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Votes for ISWC:
    Giovanni, Chris</p>

    <h3 id="item05">AOB</h3>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>alessio</cite>&gt; same, i vote for
    SAMT</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; Susanne: can the
    mail subjects be prefixed?</p><a name="action12" id=
    "action12"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Jeff, Raphael to contact Yannis for
    the practical SAMT details [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action12">http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action12</a>]</p><a name="action13"
    id="action13"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> jeff and raphael to start discussion
    on email subject prefixes [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action13">http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action13</a>]</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chalaschek</cite>&gt; bye</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>giovannit</cite>&gt; by all! :-)</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>anadiotis</cite>&gt; bye</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>jrvosse</cite>&gt; bye:</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>christian</cite>&gt; cioa a tutti</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Massimo</cite>&gt; bye !</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>JeffP</cite>&gt; bye</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>IoannisPratikakis</cite>&gt; bye</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>IoannisPratikakis</cite>&gt; \quit</p>
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  <h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
  Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> iovanni to
  coordinate write up of a use case on music [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action02</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> jeff and raphael
  to start discussion on email subject prefixes [recorded in
  <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action13">http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action13</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Jeff, Raphael to
  contact Yannis for the practical SAMT details [recorded in
  <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action12">http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action12</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Melli propose a
  use case on bio-medicale images [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action11">http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action11</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Raphael to write
  up use case in the news domain: PENDING (waiting for IPTC green
  light) [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action07</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Vassilis to
  continue the Media use case [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action10">http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action10</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Yannis to report
  back to the group about the outcome of the MPEG7 liason attempts
  [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br />

  &nbsp;<br />
  <strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> George to
  write up a use case around tagging [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action06</a>]<br />

  <strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Giovanni to
  coordinate write up of a use case on music [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action03</a>]<br />

  <strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Iioanis to
  write up use case showing the need for semantic interpretation of
  low level features (Ioannis and Vasileios, 2 documents) [recorded
  in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action09">http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action09</a>]<br />

  <strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Massimo to
  write up use case on analysis and reproducing [recorded in
  <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action08</a>]<br />

  <strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Thierry to
  write up limitations of MPEG-7 description schemes [recorded in
  <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action05</a>]<br />

  &nbsp;<br />
  <strong>[DONE]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Patrizia to find
  pointer to the Vienna tool (music use case) [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2006/07/20-mmsem-minutes.html#action04</a>]<br />

  &nbsp;<br />
  [End of minutes]<br />
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Default Present: Vassilis, Raphael, JeffP, Giovanni, Chris, Yannis, Vasileios, Melli, [IPcaller], anadiotis, SusanneBoll
Present: Raphael Vassilis Giovanni JeffP Yannis Chris Melli Vasileios Susanne Jacco Ioannis Stamatia Massimo_(IRC) Allessio_(IRC)
Regrets: Ovidio Patrizia Pasquale Thierry Paul Stephan Thomas
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