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<h1>W3C Media Fragments Working Group telephone conference 2008-09-17</h1>

<h2>17 Sep 2008</h2>

<p><a
href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2008Sep/0000.html">Agenda</a></p>

<p>See also: <a href="http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-irc">IRC
log</a></p>

<h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>

<div class="intro">
<dl>
  <dt>Present</dt>
    <dd>raphael, Michael_Hausenblas, +0329331aaaa, Yves, erik,
      +61.2.801.2.aabb, nessy</dd>
  <dt>Regrets</dt>
    <dd>Jack</dd>
  <dt>Chair</dt>
    <dd>Raphael</dd>
  <dt>Scribe</dt>
    <dd>Michael Hausenblas</dd>
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<h2>Contents</h2>
<ul>
  <li><a href="#agenda">Topics</a>
    <ol>
      <li><a href="#item01">Introduction</a></li>
      <li><a href="#item02">Future Meetings</a></li>
      <li><a href="#item03">Working Group Tools</a></li>
      <li><a href="#item04">Goals &amp; Objectives</a></li>
      <li><a href="#item05">AOB</a></li>
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  </li>
  <li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
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<div class="meeting">
<h3 id="item01">Introduction</h3>

<p class="phone"><cite>Raphael:</cite> Welcome. I and Erik will chair. Yves
is the W3C team contact<br />
... we will introduce to goals and tools today<br />
... check out the WG page <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/">http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/</a><br
/>
... start introducing ourselves</p>

<p class="phone"><cite>Silvia:</cite> Based in Australia<br />
... developing hypervideo linking<br />
... some 15 years of experiences in the multimedia realm</p>

<p class="phone"><cite>Raphael:</cite> And Silvia is one of the IETF frag
draft</p>

<p class="phone"><cite>Erik:</cite> From Belgium, lab does lot of video
stuff, MPEG, etc.<br />
... metadata and feature extraction and adaptation<br />
... were members of MMSEM-XG<br />
... will co-chair with Raphael</p>

<p class="phone"><cite>Davy:</cite> PhD at the multimedia lab (at Erik's
lab)<br />
... about adapting; first time in W3C</p>

<p class="irc">&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; Michael: working in JRS,
Austria</p>

<p class="irc">&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; ... scalable multimedia app using
SW technologies</p>

<p class="irc">&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; ... past member of Multimedia
Semantics XG, Linked Data group</p>

<p class="irc">&lt;<cite>raphael</cite>&gt; ... did RDFa too</p>

<p class="phone"><cite>Yves:</cite> the protocol guy<br />
... working on HTTP 1.1 updates<br />
... did annotating in RDF a long time ago ;)</p>

<p class="phone"><cite>Raphael:</cite> Post-doc at CWI<br />
... co-chair of MMSEM-XG and SWBPD-WD TF<br />
... contributed to IPTC, MPEG and related multimedia metadata stuff</p>

<p class="phone"><cite>Erik:</cite> Missing important invited experts?</p>

<p class="phone"><cite>Raphael:</cite> We will discuss this, yes</p>

<p class="phone">-&gt; <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/groups.html#good-standing">http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/groups.html#good-standing</a>
Good Standing participation</p>

<p class="phone"><cite>Raphael:</cite> please send regrets if you can't
join<br />
... we will be strict with that</p>

<p class="irc">&lt;<cite>Yves</cite>&gt; <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/">http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/</a>
is a good reading, especially for document transitions requirements</p>

<p class="phone">-&gt; <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2008/01/media-fragments-wg.html">http://www.w3.org/2008/01/media-fragments-wg.html</a>
Charter</p>

<p class="phone"><cite>Raphael:</cite> Silvia is one invited expert<br />
... Wolfgang Jochum (Austria) can join</p>

<p class="phone"><cite>Erik:</cite> Overlap with Media Annotation WG?<br />
... should be join in both directions<br />
... yes, increase industrial part</p>

<p class="phone"><cite>Silvia:</cite> I know someone at Youtube<br />
... I'll contact the person</p>
<a name="action01" id="action01"></a>

<p class="irc">&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt; <strong>ACTION:</strong> Yves to
contact Google AC Rep re member of MediaFrag WG till next week [recorded in
<a
href="http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>

<p class="irc">&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-1 - Contact
Google AC Rep re member of MediaFrag WG till next week [on Yves Lafon - due
2008-09-24].</p>

<p class="phone"><cite>Raphael:</cite> Seven or more participants are
expected</p>

<h3 id="item02">Future Meetings</h3>

<p class="phone"><cite>Raphael:</cite> Weekly telecon<br />
... 11:00UTC fine?</p>

<p class="phone">propose 12:00UTC on Wednsday</p>

<p class="phone">+1</p>

<p class="irc">&lt;<cite>erik</cite>&gt; +1</p>

<p class="irc">&lt;<cite>davy</cite>&gt; +1</p>

<p class="irc">&lt;<cite>nessy</cite>&gt; +1</p>

<p class="irc">&lt;<cite>Yves</cite>&gt; =&gt; 8AM boston time</p>

<p class="phone">RESOLVED Weekly MediaFrag Telecon will be on Wednesday at
12:00UTC</p>

<p class="phone"><cite>Raphael:</cite> F2F<br />
... first F2F during TPAC<br />
... please register ASAP for TPAC<br />
... who will attend</p>

<p class="irc">&lt;<cite>erik</cite>&gt; +1</p>

<p class="irc">&lt;<cite>davy</cite>&gt; I will</p>

<p class="irc">&lt;<cite>nessy</cite>&gt; uncertain</p>

<p class="phone"><cite>Michael:</cite> online IRC and phone</p>

<p class="phone"><cite>Raphael:</cite> I'll be there</p>

<p class="irc">&lt;<cite>nessy</cite>&gt; will know before 20th</p>

<p class="phone"><cite>Erik:</cite> Second F2F<br />
... can provide rooms at our place 8 Dec</p>
<a name="action02" id="action02"></a>

<p class="irc">&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt; <strong>ACTION:</strong> Yves to
set up a questionary for seond MediaFrag F2F in Gent (8. and 9. Dec)
[recorded in <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02</a>]</p>

<p class="irc">&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-2 - Set up a
questionary for second MediaFrag F2F in Gent (8. and 9. Dec) [on Yves Lafon -
due 2008-09-24].</p>

<p class="phone"><cite>Raphael:</cite> quck poll - any problems?</p>

<p class="irc">&lt;<cite>erik</cite>&gt; +1</p>

<p class="phone">Michael ok</p>

<p class="irc">&lt;<cite>davy</cite>&gt; ok</p>

<p class="phone"><cite>Raphael:</cite> the third F2F likely in Korea</p>

<p class="phone">Yves prefers Tuesday to Wednesday</p>

<p class="phone"><cite>Erik:</cite> Currently rooms are reserved for
Mo/Tue<br />
... I'll take care of this</p>

<h3 id="item03">Working Group Tools</h3>

<p class="phone"><cite>Raphael:</cite> number of tools to support the
telecons on IRC/phone<br />
... have a look at the bot descriptions and instructions to support
scribing<br />
... srcibe will rotate, starting with more experienced ones<br />
... further there is the issue and action tracker<br />
... and the WG Wiki<br />
... you need to create Wiki accounts yourself<br />
... chairs will assign access right based on that<br />
... I'll initially fill in some pieces in the Wiki</p>

<h3 id="item04">Goals &amp; Objectives</h3>

<p class="phone"><cite>Raphael:</cite> Overall goal is the specification and
deployment of temporal and simple spatial media fragment URIs.<br />
... we have committed to deliver some documents<br />
... first will be a use case and req<br />
... second one will be the actual spec (REC)<br />
... tough scheduling<br />
... we will go Rec-Track (from WD over Last Call to CR and PR to REC)<br />
... have a look at the relevant background resources<br />
... our immediate first goal is to get a first draft of the UC document</p>
<a name="action03" id="action03"></a>

<p class="irc">&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt; <strong>ACTION:</strong> All to
write up use cases by editing the Wiki and report it to the list [recorded in
<a
href="http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03</a>]</p>

<p class="irc">&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Sorry, couldn't find user -
All</p>

<p class="phone"><cite>Michael:</cite> How to deal with the requirements?</p>

<p class="phone"><cite>Raphael:</cite> Interdependent issues (UC and
requirements)</p>

<p class="phone"><cite>Silvia:</cite> Question re scheduling<br />
... I thought Novemeber?</p>

<p class="phone"><cite>Raphael:</cite> Sure we try to stick with the
schedule, so, yes the main reason is the F2F</p>

<p class="irc">&lt;<cite>erik</cite>&gt; no q's at the moment</p>

<p class="phone"><cite>Raphael:</cite> To sum up, edit Wiki (account, profile
and UC)<br />
... What we don't want to do is to specify a way to address spatio-temporal
region in XML, etc (like in SMIL, MPEG-7, etc.) BUT in the URI<br />
... but provide transformation rules to convert from to URI format</p>

<h3 id="item05">AOB</h3>

<p class="phone"><cite>Silvia:</cite> Re industry participation in this WG<br
/>
... have we talked to MS, Real Networks, Adobe, etc?</p>

<p class="phone"><cite>Yves:</cite> We do have contacts (via Philippe -
MS)<br />
... we will work on this</p>

<p class="phone"><cite>Raphael:</cite> Companies such as Apple and Adobe have
shown interest, however<br />
... TPAC will be a great chance to talk to people F2F<br />
... thanks all, next week 12:00CET<br />
... minutes will be sent out for review<br />
... hear you next week</p>

<p class="phone">[adjourned]</p>
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<h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
Items</a></h2>
<!-- Action Items -->
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> All to write up use cases by
editing the Wiki and report it to the list [recorded in <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03</a>]<br
/>
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Yves to contact Google AC Rep
re member of MediaFrag WG till next week [recorded in <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br
/>
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Yves to set up a questionary
for seond MediaFrag F2F in Gent (8. and 9. Dec) [recorded in <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/17-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02</a>]<br
/>
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