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  <h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>

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    <dl>
      <dt>Present</dt>

      <dt>Regrets</dt>

      <dt>Chair</dt>

      <dd>SV_MEETING_CHAIR</dd>

      <dt>Scribe</dt>

      <dd>pchampin</dd>
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  <h2>Contents</h2>

  <ul>
    <li>
      <a href="#agenda">Topics</a>

      <ol>
        <li><a href="#item01">administrative</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item02">open action items</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item03">changes in the ontology document
        proposed by the RDF taskforce</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item04">Follow up on Implementation of LC
        comments</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item05">continuation of the group</a></li>
      </ol>
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    <li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
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  <div class="meeting">
    <p class='phone'></p>

    <p class='phone'>I'll scribe</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt; scribe: pchampin</p>

    <h3 id="item01">administrative</h3>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; next telecon
    meeting is the 11th January</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>joakim:</cite> next meeting proposed on
    2011-01-11</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>joakim</cite>&gt; <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html</a></p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>joakim:</cite> minutes approved for the
    last meeting</p>

    <h3 id="item02">open action items</h3>

    <p class='phone'>close action-269</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-269 Report
    about "library to extract test cases for JavaScript" at next
    call closed</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>joakim:</cite> wonsuk, about action 309
    ?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>wonsuk</cite>&gt; That is not
    done.</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>wonsuk</cite>&gt; please keep it
    open.</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; wonsuk are you on
    Zakim ?</p>

    <p class='phone'>close action-309</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-309 Improve
    markup of nomative/informative, probably with specific class to
    visualise closed</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>wonsuk</cite>&gt; no... I will be on
    the Zakim ;)</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>joakim:</cite> wonsuk, about action
    328?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; ACTION-328 wonsuk
    ?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>wonsuk</cite>&gt; That was done.</p>

    <p class='phone'>close action-328</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-328 Check
    if comment 2389 is in the document closed</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; ACTION-334</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; leave open</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; ACTION-337 wonsuk
    again</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>joakim:</cite> wonsuk, about action
    337?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>wonsuk</cite>&gt; That has been
    done.</p>

    <p class='phone'>close action-337</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-337 Check
    if comment 2405 is in the document closed</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>joakim:</cite> no report on action 343
    for Daniel, leave it open<br />
    ... wonsuk, about action 351 ?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; ACTION-348 done</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>wonsuk:</cite> 351 has been done</p>

    <p class='phone'>close action-351</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-351 Change
    "issuer of classification" to "classification scheme" in Onto
    and API documents closed</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>joakim:</cite> what about 356?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>msuaref</cite>&gt; hi</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; ACTION-348 NOT
    done</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>wonsuk:</cite> as I wrote in my e-mail,
    I missed the point of that action</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>stegmai</cite>&gt; <a href=
    "http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Dec/0069.html">
    http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Dec/0069.html</a></p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>joakim:</cite> I think this was raise by
    Jean-Pierre at the F2F in Lyon</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>jean-pierre:</cite> we had this
    discussion about the RDF ontology</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>joakim:</cite> I think the conclusion
    was that the text should be rewritten to match the RDF
    representation<br />
    ... I think that we said that rating should be more precisely
    defined, to prevent mixing it up with classification</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>thierry:</cite> I think wonsuk and
    jean-pierre should coordinate to check/improve the text in the
    ontology document</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>jean-pierre:</cite> for me the text is
    ok as is</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>joakim:</cite> it seems that the text
    has been updated according to 351</p>

    <p class='phone'>close action-356</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-356 Make
    more precise description of rating in ontology closed</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>florian:</cite> action-360 still
    ongoing</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>joakim:</cite> action-365 is about one
    particulat issue in LC-2419<br />
    ... still open<br />
    ... action-368 is also for me, about ma:compression and
    ma:format</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>werner:</cite> we had some discussion on
    the list about that<br />
    ... the conclusion being: there are two problems with merging
    them<br />
    ... 1/ for tracks, you need 'compression', 'format' doesn't
    make sense for them<br />
    ... 2/ extended mimetypes are not sufficiently well defined for
    us to rely on them<br />
    ... so ma:compression and ma:format were deemed not
    redundant</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>joakim:</cite> I can write that down in
    an e-mail and send it on the mailing list<br />
    ... next action is action 369<br />
    ... keep it open</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; ACTION-372 Wonsuk
    ?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; CVS updated. Please
    close</p>

    <p class='phone'>close action-372</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-372 Upload
    veronique's version to CVS closed</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chpoppe</cite>&gt; Here is the last
    version of the API doc</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chpoppe</cite>&gt; <a href=
    "http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-api-1.0/mediaont-api-1.0.html">
    http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-api-1.0/mediaont-api-1.0.html</a></p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>florian:</cite> misunderstood action373,
    will do it for the next telecon</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>joakim:</cite> next is action 375, to
    Véronique<br />
    ... no repporting, we leave it open</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chpoppe</cite>&gt; action 374 is
    done</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Sorry, couldn't
    find user - 374</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>joakim:</cite> next actions were created
    at the last telecon because we lacked reviews</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>florian:</cite> 377 is done</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; close 377</p>

    <p class='phone'>close action-377</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-377 Review
    LC2393 closed</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chpoppe</cite>&gt; you can also close
    action 374</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>werner:</cite> 378 is done too; some
    change should be done in the API document<br />
    ... explaining what "no exception" means</p>

    <p class='phone'>close action-374</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-374 Change
    createdate to creationdate in the api doc closed</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; missing text to be
    added in the API for LC 2395</p>

    <p class='phone'>close action-378</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-378 Review
    LC 2395 closed</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>felix:</cite> action 380 is done</p>

    <p class='phone'>close action-380</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-380 Review
    LC 2406 closed</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>fsasaki</cite>&gt; felix: comment
    looks good to me</p>

    <p class='phone'>action chris to add missing text in the API
    document for LC 2395 (about "no exception")</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-382
    - Add missing text in the API document for LC 2395 (about "no
    exception") [on Chris Poppe - due 2010-12-28].</p>

    <h3 id="item03">changes in the ontology document proposed by
    the RDF taskforce</h3>

    <p class='phone'><cite>jean-pierre:</cite> we proposed to add
    track as a sub-class of fragment<br />
    ... unless we consider that having a 'number of tracks' is
    enough</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>werner:</cite> I think the definitions
    we have is sufficient<br />
    ... the definition of fragments refers to the Media Fragment
    definition, which includes track fragments</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>jean-pierre:</cite> fine with me<br />
    ... next item is about captionning track<br />
    ... we only have the notion of caption, but not 'sign
    language'<br />
    ... suggest to add it as an example<br />
    ... and we would add it as a subclass of Track in the RDF
    ontology</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; I am fine with
    adding signing ...</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>felix:</cite> one piece of
    information<br />
    ... in a language identifier, sign language can be
    identified</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>jean-pierre:</cite> there are two
    things: the language and the purpose</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>felix:</cite> sign language is defined
    just as one kind of language<br />
    ... so I'm not sure whether we need a distinction here</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>jean-pierre:</cite> at least this should
    be mentionned in the 'language' definition then</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>fsasaki</cite>&gt; <a href=
    "http://people.w3.org/rishida/utils/subtags/index.php?find=sign+language&amp;submit=Find">
    http://people.w3.org/rishida/utils/subtags/index.php?find=sign+language&amp;submit=Find</a></p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>werner:</cite> a caption track with a
    sign language as its language would be strange</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>jean-pierre:</cite> there are several
    options</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>fsasaki</cite>&gt; see the above link
    for sign language sub tags, which are "normal" language sub
    tags</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>jean-pierre:</cite> 1/ the signing is
    embeded in the video, so there are actually two languages<br />
    ... 2/ the signing is an external file</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; ma:language add
    sign languages</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>pierre-antoine:</cite> think that we
    should make this explicit in the definition of
    'ma:language'</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; ma:numTracks add
    signing as example.</p>

    <p class='phone'>action felix to write an addition to the
    definition of ma:language to mention sign language</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-383
    - Write an addition to the definition of ma:language to mention
    sign language [on Felix Sasaki - due 2010-12-28].</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>jean-pierre:</cite> another problem is
    that we can not express the *purpose* of a captionning
    track</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>pierre-antoine:</cite> the relation
    between a media resource and its track could carry this
    information</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>werner:</cite> agrees that relation
    could be used; the same issues appears elsewhere</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>jean-pierre:</cite> I'll illustrated
    this with an example<br />
    ... e.g. "translation", "audio description"</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>joakim:</cite> it would be good to
    include them in the ontology document</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>msuaref</cite>&gt; I also agrees on
    using the relations (in some way) to this issue</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>jean-pierre:</cite> next point:
    creationDate is not the most general date property<br />
    ... and other dates (like "release date") are not really
    subproperties of *creation* date</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>joakim:</cite> I think we discussed this
    issue in Barcelona,</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>joakim</cite>&gt; Do you agree that we
    should change ma:creationDate to ma:Date?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chpoppe</cite>&gt; I have no objection
    if the type can be used to specify the exact semantics of the
    date</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>joakim:</cite> though I don't remember
    why we settled on creation data</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>werner:</cite> I think we found that
    creationDate was more specific<br />
    ... and all our examples were related to creation date</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>stegmai</cite>&gt; +1 werner</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>joakim</cite>&gt; +1</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>werner:</cite> we didn't have qualifier
    at the time, but now that we have, why not make it more
    general</p>

    <p class='phone'>+1</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; +1</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chpoppe</cite>&gt; so I change
    creationdate to date in the API doc?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>joakim</cite>&gt; Resoultion: change
    ma:creationDate to ma:date</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>thierry:</cite> this makes action 375
    obsolete</p>

    <p class='phone'>close action-375</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-375 Change
    createdate to creationdate in the ontology doc closed</p>

    <p class='phone'>action wonsuk to change creationDate to
    date</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-384
    - Change creationDate to date [on WonSuk Lee - due
    2010-12-28].</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>jean-pierre:</cite> next point was about
    rating values as float<br />
    ... it is still double in the ontology document</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chpoppe</cite>&gt; the ontology
    document has not been updated</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>joakim</cite>&gt; Resolution: change
    ma:creationDate to ma:date</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chpoppe</cite>&gt; I think that
    Veronique has problems with accessing the cvs or something</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chpoppe</cite>&gt; in the API it is
    float</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>pchampin:</cite> the ontology document
    only uses double</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; RatingValue should
    be Double</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>pchampin:</cite> while the API document
    sometimes uses float, sometimes double<br />
    ... unless there is a good reason to mix them, I suggest the
    API sticks to double, just like the ontology document</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chpoppe</cite>&gt; the API only uses
    double for the location</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chpoppe</cite>&gt; latitude, longitude
    and altitude</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chpoppe</cite>&gt; I can change the
    value of the rating to double</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>joakim</cite>&gt; +1</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; language and
    compression will allow string and anyURI values.</p>

    <p class='phone'>action chris to change float to double in the
    API document</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-385
    - Change float to double in the API document [on Chris Poppe -
    due 2010-12-28].</p>

    <p class='phone'>action jean-pierre to change float to double
    in the RDF ontology</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-386
    - Change float to double in the RDF ontology [on Jean-Pierre
    EVAIN - due 2010-12-28].</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>joakim</cite>&gt; Resolution: use
    double everywhere</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; Ontology does not
    need updates : we keep Double.</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>jean-pierre:</cite> last point: language
    and compression only allow string as value; we suggest to allow
    URIs</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>joakim:</cite> sounds like a good
    idea</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>pchampin:</cite> +1</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>joakim</cite>&gt; any objections?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; +1</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; I will do it</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; language and
    compression will allow string and anyURI values.</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>wonsuk</cite>&gt; +1</p>

    <p class='phone'>action tmichel to add URIs as allowed values
    for ma:language and ma:compression</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-387
    - Add URIs as allowed values for ma:language and ma:compression
    [on Thierry Michel - due 2010-12-28].</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>joakim:</cite> can everybody stay
    another 10 minutes?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>msuaref</cite>&gt; yes</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; extending 10
    minutes ...</p>

    <h3 id="item04">Follow up on Implementation of LC comments</h3>

    <p class='phone'><cite>joakim:</cite> thierry will go through
    the mails and see what is still relevant in the comments</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>thierry:</cite> should we try to settle
    LC 2405 now?</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>jean-pierre:</cite> everything is
    basically in my comment</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; thanks JP</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>joakim:</cite> jean-pierre can you
    propose a text that Wonsuk would add?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>joakim</cite>&gt; ping Wonsuk!</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt;
    WonSUKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK ?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chpoppe</cite>&gt; when making updates
    to the ontology please use the latest version on the cvs!</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>joakim</cite>&gt; 1) Introduction Note
    to implementers, content authors - not really explicit, maybe
    these roles should be mentioned saying things like "it is
    expected that implementers will do." ". to the benefit of
    content providers", etc.</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>joakim</cite>&gt; problem 2) There is
    no section 1.1 on the purpose of the specification</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>joakim</cite>&gt; 3) Section 4.1 core
    property definitions -&gt; now section 5.1</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>joakim</cite>&gt; 4) The ma: prefix
    still appears in the table but since the comment was made
    Pierre Antoine, while working on the mapping table suggested
    that the prefix should only be used with the ma-ont namespace
    in the RDF -&gt; reconsider position?</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>wonsuk:</cite> I'll update the ontology
    document with respect to these comments</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chpoppe</cite>&gt; please first get
    the latest version of the ontology document from the cvs
    wonsuk</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>pchampin:</cite> another proposal I
    made, regarding Ivan Herman's comments, was to remobe the 'ma:'
    prefix for the 'abstract' ontology<br />
    ... only the RDF ontology needs a namespace</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>joakim</cite>&gt; I agree with can
    remove the prefix in the abstract ontology</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>joakim</cite>&gt; werner?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>joakim</cite>&gt; All agree to remove
    ma: in the abstract ontology?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>joakim</cite>&gt; including the
    mapping table</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>msuaref</cite>&gt; i also agree on
    removing 'ma:' in the ontology document.</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>pchampin:</cite> it can be done
    automatically, I already spotted all the false positives :)</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>joakim</cite>&gt; wonsuk, are you ok
    with removing ma: from the abstract ontology doc?</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>pchampin:</cite> I'll send the
    recommendatio on the list again</p>

    <p class='phone'>action thierry to remove 'ma:' from the
    mapping table</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-388
    - Remove 'ma:' from the mapping table [on Thierry Michel - due
    2010-12-28].</p>

    <p class='phone'>action wonsuk to remove 'ma:' from the mapping
    table</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-389
    - Remove 'ma:' from the mapping table [on WonSuk Lee - due
    2010-12-28].</p>

    <p class='phone'>action wonsuk to remove 'ma:' from the
    ontology document</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-390
    - Remove 'ma:' from the ontology document [on WonSuk Lee - due
    2010-12-28].</p>

    <p class='phone'>close action-389</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-389 Remove
    'ma:' from the mapping table closed</p>

    <h3 id="item05">continuation of the group</h3>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>joakim</cite>&gt; next year!</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>joakim</cite>&gt; :-)</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>florian:</cite> according to the
    charter, the group will end in June 2011<br />
    ... what should we do in the meantime</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>thierry:</cite> it is unlikely that we
    reach REC by june<br />
    ... so we will ask for an extension<br />
    ... but during an extension we can not re-chart the group<br />
    ... a new charter can be made after the workshop in
    september</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>werner:</cite> of course, if we don't
    each REC by june, we should stick to that</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>thierry:</cite> getting an extension is
    an easy process</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt; ... new charter is
    much more complicated</p>
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