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<h1>Social Web Incubator Group Teleconference</h1>
<h2>15 Jul 2009</h2>
<p>See also: <a href="http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-irc">IRC
log</a></p>
<h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>
<div class="intro">
<dl>
<dt>Present</dt>
<dt>Regrets</dt>
<dt>Chair</dt>
<dd>DKA</dd>
<dt>Scribe</dt>
<dd>hhalpin, Mischa</dd>
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<h2>Contents</h2>
<ul>
<li>
<a href="#agenda">Topics</a>
<ol>
<li><a href="#item01">Convene SWXG WG meeting of
2009-07-15T13:00-15:00Z</a></li>
<li><a href="#item02">General Organization and Task
Forces</a></li>
<li><a href="#item03">User Stories</a></li>
<li><a href="#item043">Simon Tenant and Oslo Alliance</a></li>
<li><a href="#item05">Matt Womer and W3C Geolocation API</a></li>
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<li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
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<hr />
<div class="meeting">
<p class='phone'> </p>
<p class='phone'> </p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>jsalvachua</cite>> zakim aabb is
me</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>jsalvachua</cite>> oh i see ;)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>jsalvachua</cite>> thanks matt</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> scribe: hhalpin</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Minutes:</cite></p>
<p class='phone'><a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/07/08-swxg-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2009/07/08-swxg-minutes.html</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>PROPOSED:</cite> Approve July 8th
minutes?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tinkster</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tpa</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>oshani</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='phone'><strong class='resolution'>RESOLUTION: July
8th minutes approved.</strong></p>
<p class='phone'>Note that DKA will be gone for 3 weeks
following.</p>
<p class='phone'>next meeting</p>
<h3 id="item01">Convene SWXG WG meeting of
2009-07-15T13:00-15:00Z</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>SimonTenant:</cite> Signed in to talk
about Oslo</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>cperey</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='phone'>It doesn't appear Mischa is on the call</p>
<p class='phone'>[CONTINUTES] <strong>ACTION:</strong> Mischa
to write up Soren and Jonathan's findings from last telecon for
final report.</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tinkster</cite>> Aha, speak of the
devil!</p><a name="action01" id="action01"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> danbri
circulate wookie proposal to the xg [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mischat</cite>> hello all, I dont
have voice today, I am sorry</p>
<p class='phone'>no problem mischa</p>
<p class='phone'>any luck on the actions?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>cperey:</cite> Note that Christley from
Gypsii is next invited speaker</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mischat</cite>> nope I have been
doing thesis, I will get them done by the next meeting</p>
<h3 id="item02">General Organization and Task Forces</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>hhalpin:</cite> I propose that we then
focus on next meeting</p>
<h3 id="item03">User Stories</h3>
<p class='irc'><<cite>cperey</cite>> My action was
finished!</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>cperey</cite>> about a month or 6
weeks ago</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>cperey</cite>> I tried to close it
out</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>cperey</cite>> but the service
didn't "accept"</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>cperey:</cite> I posted my list<br />
... the main challenge is how do we integrate this list<br />
... we should then leave them on.<br />
... we have had list-serv discussions<br />
... does it include content sharing services?<br />
... should we have a W3C approved definition?<br />
... An industry definition?<br />
... we need a relevant open item.</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>cperey</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>cperey</cite>> a principled way of
doing metrics</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>cperey</cite>> I'm really keen to
do this</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mischat</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>cperey</cite>> harry will look at
the schedule to see when we can have a metrics discussoin</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>hhalpin:</cite> let's have a metric
discussion</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>DKA:</cite> have it for next week
call</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>cperey</cite>> I will not be
available July 29</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>DKA:</cite> Or for next call.</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>cperey:</cite> relevant for next
call</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>hhalpin:</cite> useful summary
report</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>cperey:</cite> will push to list the
past e-mails on this subject</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>cperey</cite>> I will point to the
past posts on this topic</p><a name="action02" id=
"action02"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> danbri
circulate wookie proposal to the xg [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action02</a>]</p><a name="action03"
id="action03"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> Mischa to
describe/implement a report of terms and conditions, and how
they change between now and the end of the XG. [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action03</a>]</p><a name="action04"
id="action04"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[DONE]</strong> Sören to
propose addition to the template for user stories for privacy
conditions [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action04</a>]</p><a name="action05"
id="action05"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> adam to
write up the boeing use case for enterprise social networks
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action05</a>]</p><a name="action06"
id="action06"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> hhalpin
to write up the social network data exchange story [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action06</a>]</p><a name="action07"
id="action07"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[DONE]</strong> danbri to
write up widget business story. [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action07</a>]</p><a name="action08"
id="action08"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[DONE]</strong> jsalvachua to
write up business use-case with the company he's been working
with. [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action08</a>]</p><a name="action09"
id="action09"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> danbri to
write up widget business story. [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action09">http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action09</a>]</p><a name="action10"
id="action10"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> tpa to
look for similar use cases list to expand ours [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action10">http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action10</a>]</p><a name="action11"
id="action11"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> <strong>[CONTINUES]</strong> tinkster
to document danbri's microblogging provenance question as a
user story. [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action11">http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action11</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>jsalvachua</cite>> i wrote, just in
time, a first version its on the wiki</p>
<p class='phone'>yep, it's marked as done.</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>DKA:</cite> Simon Tenant, guest
spaker</p>
<p class='phone'><<cite>SimonTenant</cite>:> We are one of the founders of
mobile start-up Buddycloud</p>
<p class='phone'><<cite>SimonTenant</cite>:> Geolocation is one of the
elements of the a larger product</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>SimonTenant:</cite> looked at Google's
efforts<br />
... applicaitons like Rumble, using location to recommend
relevant restaurants</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mischat</cite>> is there a url for
the OSLO alliance</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mischat</cite>> ?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>SimonTenant:</cite> buddycloud shows you
nearby friends<br />
... we started talking between each other that<br />
... we need to avoid an AOL IM scenario<br />
... too many different ways to do this<br />
... we wanted to come up with a way for this to be done<br />
... about 30 similar companies<br />
... it's where we've come from for OSLO.<br />
... we have working code<br />
... working federation now<br />
... so its working quite well<br />
... we're working through the teething problems<br />
... we're not trying to reinvent the wheel<br />
... we're on 13 signatories to first press release<br />
... looking at best of breed activities.<br />
... some talk of XMPP<br />
... we run on top of XMPP</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>oshani</cite>> mischat, <a href=
"http://digital.venturebeat.com/2009/02/23/oslo-alliance-wants-to-share-location-across-networks/">
http://digital.venturebeat.com/2009/02/23/oslo-alliance-wants-to-share-location-across-networks/</a>
(from the agenda)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mischat</cite>> thanks oshani</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>SimonTenant:</cite> we've applied a very
light specification on top of XMPP.</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>matt</cite>> <a href=
"http://code.google.com/p/oslo-protocol/">the code (I
believe)</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>SimonTenant:</cite> these are the simple
situations<br />
... privacy, kickback of error</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>SimonTentant:</cite> Light touch on top
of exiting technologies, so within 2 months we have working
code and federation between Akai-Akai and BuddyCloud<br />
... we use XMPP to push this sort of stuff out<br />
... similar to instant messenger list<br />
... push location out in particular<br />
... the other side, these networks rely on mobile phone<br />
... these applications are running 24 seven<br />
... but mobile phone batteries can't handle this<br />
... by not default your not just popping up to everyone
nearby<br />
... but to people that allow them "opt-in"<br />
... much more exciting for users<br />
... great business driver</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>DKA</cite>> Simon also noted: the
increased number of users available via OSLO chairing is a
business driver...</p>
<p class='phone'><<cite>SimonTennant:</cite>> We can finally see mobile
location based advertising actually happen</p>
<p class='phone'><<cite>SimonTennant:</cite>> nearby advertisements is a driver</p>
<p class='phone'><<cite>SimonTennant:</cite>> OSLO is a way to help standardise
location-sharing in real-time</p>
<p class='phone'><<cite>SimonTennant:</cite>> oslo is open, no master list of companies
which can join</p>
<p class='phone'><<cite>SimonTennant:</cite>> to join all you have to do is publish a
statement in dns saying that you can share geo location</p>
<p class='phone'><<cite>SimonTennant:</cite>> there is a trust network, networks can dictate
which other networks they wish to share with</p>
<p class='phone'><<cite>SimonTennant:</cite>> users are in control of who they share their
location with</p>
<p class='phone'><<cite>SimonTennant:</cite>> user love sharing location, just like
facebook, can live with out</p>
<p class='phone'><<cite>SimonTennant:</cite>> privacy policies, users should always be able
to opt-out of sharing location</p>
<p class='phone'><<cite>SimonTennant:</cite>> as well as giving user a level of granularity
to control who they share their location with</p>
<p class='phone'><<cite>SimonTennant:</cite>> oslo plan to release code in the next couple
of weeks</p>
<p class='phone'><<cite>SimonTennant:</cite>> oslo allows people to share location between
networks</p>
<p class='phone'>oslo should scale,</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>DKA</cite>> you talk about user's
ability to select which networks to share with, and how
networks can decide to who other networks to share with, have
you owriten this up ?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>SimonTenant:</cite>> no not yet, but good
idea, and oslo should write this up</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tinkster</cite>> here again -
<a href=
"http://code.google.com/p/oslo-protocol/">http://code.google.com/p/oslo-protocol/</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>matt:</cite> is all of the work happening at
the code.google.com url above ^^?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>SimonTenant:</cite> yes, but we need to
commit to svn more often</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>matt:</cite> Have you thought about taking
this a standards body ?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>SimonTeant:</cite> oslo doesn't state how
you get your location, this is up the client/user, oslo is more
about best practises when it comes to sharing location</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tinkster</cite>> OSLO =
server-to-server communication of location, rather than
user-to-server or user-to-user.</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>jsalvachua</cite>> i agree is a
wonderful work.</p>
<p class='phone'>so much more context about a user, other than
just location, would be nice to be able to share more than just
location, oslo would like integrate/be involved with any other
context sharing</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>SimonTenant:</cite>> oslo hasn't created lots of code, BSD license,
based on XMPP and other open technologies</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Oshani:</cite>>: does oslo handle location
history ?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>SimonTenant:</cite>> oslo is about real-time
sharing of location</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>cperey</cite>> sounds like location
history saving policies are a place for user education/best
practices</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tinkster</cite>> A "time to live"
on each piece of location data?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>melvster</cite>> oslo-protocol
nearby object query spec: <a href=
"http://code.google.com/p/oslo-protocol/wiki/NearbyObjectQuerySpec">
http://code.google.com/p/oslo-protocol/wiki/NearbyObjectQuerySpec</a></p>
<p class='phone'>you have to trust your friends to not
store/create histories of ones location</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>matt</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/geolocation/"></a></p>
<p class='phone'>><<cite>DKA</cite>>introduces matt, w3c team contact for
geolocation working group</p>
<p class='phone'>they outputted the javascript geolocation
API</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>matt</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-geolocation-API-20090707/">Last
Call WD</a></p>
<p class='phone'>the last call was last week</p>
<p class='phone'>there is a public geolocation API mailing
list</p>
<p class='phone'>the API is entirely based on javascript</p>
<p class='phone'>it is implemented in Opera, Safari, andriod,
google gears plugin</p>
<p class='phone'>and ff3.5 all implementing the geo location
API</p>
<p class='phone'>API is very simple, the ability to get a one
shot geo-location, and it can be used to track your
position</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>matt</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-geolocation-API-20090707/#security">
http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-geolocation-API-20090707/#security</a></p>
<p class='phone'>it is only a client side specification</p>
<p class='phone'>privacy is only considered at a wording
level</p>
<p class='phone'>you can try this out with google maps, and ff
3.5</p>
<p class='phone'>you should be able to see where you are</p>
<p class='phone'>the geolocation API does not dictate how the
user's location is located</p>
<p class='phone'>it could get the location from
wifi-triangulation, based on IP address gazatteer</p>
<p class='phone'>currently considering more address based
location descriptions, other than just lat/long</p>
<p class='phone'>for example, I am near a coffee shop, or near
this address</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>inserted</cite>> Hhalpin:
hhalpin</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mischat</cite>> sure hhalpin</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>DKA:</cite> has the group talked around
any scenarios about privacy?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Matt:</cite> privacy is about 90 percent
of the volume on the mailing list<br />
... we've tried to go a number of ways<br />
... IETF geopriv people came in<br />
... completely different use-cases<br />
... they were more towards how location is shared on wire<br />
... emergency services<br />
... a service built into a cable modem</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>oshani</cite>> here's one use case
I drafted on the wiki based on geo location: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/UserStories#Inferences_on_location_based_contextual_data">
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/UserStories#Inferences_on_location_based_contextual_data</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>matt:</cite> life or death issues<br />
... in contrast, we are dealing with different use-cases<br />
... we are talking about "find me the nearest starbucks"<br />
... completely different privacy needs there<br />
... we thought about including in API the user's privacy
preferences</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tinkster</cite>> Probably not going
to use Javascript to report life-or-death emergencies.</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>matt:</cite> including rights within the
API<br />
... but bad people will do bad things and we cannot stop them
with the API but we will let browser take care of it.<br />
... otherwise, we ended up not including most discussed privacy
work<br />
... we imagine other device APIs<br />
... so now we have a Device API and Policy WG<br />
... we don't want each API to have a different take on
privacy</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>DKA:</cite> I understand that the
geolocation API decided not to deal with the question in the
WG<br />
... is there anywhere we in this XG should look to harvest some
of this privacy related work?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>DKA</cite>> Simon</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Simon:</cite> the demos I've seen have
always used Skyhooks</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>SimonTenant:</cite> Why not use
BuddyCloud?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Matt:</cite> We didn't include hooks for
this in the API<br />
...: How much knowledge do we expect users to have</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>matt:</cite> again, we punted this to
the browser<br />
... so the google gears plug-in is the editor<br />
... of the geolocation APIgoogle gears has a lot of work on
this<br />
... mozilla's implementation allows users to change this<br />
... had some JSON specification<br />
... but not baked into API.</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tinkster</cite>> Geolocation API =
assumes that the browser knows where the user is located, and
provides an API to allow Javascript to access it.</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>SimonTenant:</cite> Thanks!</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>hhalpin:</cite> long term prospects for
interoperability, given convergence of browser and mobile</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Simon:</cite> We have a specification to
get location, and another one to continously sharing</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tinkster</cite>> To an extent, as
they each use WGS84, they're already pretty interoperable.</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Simon:</cite> There is nothing to
prevent Oslo to use geolocation API to get the location, and
then sharing it via Oslo.</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>matt:</cite> we could not have said it
better<br />
... they work well together</p>
<p class='phone'>thanks!</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>DKA:</cite> Thanks for coming on the
call</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>matt</cite>> Thanks for having
us!</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>cperey</cite>> are these speakers
going to be joining teh SWXG mailing list?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>cperey</cite>> the topic of context
will be increasingly important</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>matt</cite>> <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-geolocation/">Geolocation
WG's mailing list</a></p>
<p class='phone'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>> we should definitely get someone on that
geolocation WG list.</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>mischat</cite>> bye all</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Adam</cite>> thank you to the
speakers!</p><a name="action12" id="action12"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>hhalpin</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> DKA to summarize OSLO and geoLocation
conversation in order to spread knowledge of these efforts
among W3C members. [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action12">http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action12</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-58
- Summarize OSLO and geoLocation conversation in order to
spread knowledge of these efforts among W3C members. [on Daniel
Appelquist - due 2009-07-22].</p>
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<h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
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<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> DKA to summarize
OSLO and geoLocation conversation in order to spread knowledge of
these efforts among W3C members. [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action12">http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action12</a>]<br />
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<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> adam to write
up the boeing use case for enterprise social networks [recorded
in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action05</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> danbri to
write up widget business story. [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action09">http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action09</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> hhalpin to
write up the social network data exchange story [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action06</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Mischa to
describe/implement a report of terms and conditions, and how they
change between now and the end of the XG. [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action03</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> tinkster to
document danbri's microblogging provenance question as a user
story. [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action11">http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action11</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> tpa to look
for similar use cases list to expand ours [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action10">http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action10</a>]<br />
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<strong>[DONE]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> danbri to write
up widget business story. [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action07</a>]<br />
<strong>[DONE]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> jsalvachua to
write up business use-case with the company he's been working
with. [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action08</a>]<br />
<strong>[DONE]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Sören to propose
addition to the template for user stories for privacy conditions
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2009/07/15-swxg-minutes.html#action04</a>]<br />
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