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<h1>- DRAFT -</h1>
<h1>W3C Multimedia Semantics XG - Telecon 29-03-2007, 16:00
UTC</h1>
<h2>29 Mar 2007</h2>
<p><a href=
'http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2007Mar/0063.html'>
Agenda</a></p>
<p>See also: <a href="http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-irc">IRC
log</a></p>
<h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>
<div class="intro">
<dl>
<dt>Present</dt>
<dd>Thomas_Franz, Raphael, Zeljko, Jeff_Pan, Suzanne_Massimo,
Chris_Erik_Gaetan, Oscar, SusanneBoll, giovannit</dd>
<dt>Regrets</dt>
<dd>Tobias, Vassilis, Roberto, Chris, Sofia, Pasquale,
Ioannis, Melli, Michael</dd>
<dt>Chair</dt>
<dd>Jeff, Raphael</dd>
<dt>Scribe</dt>
<dd>Zeljko</dd>
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<h2>Contents</h2>
<ul>
<li>
<a href="#agenda">Topics</a>
<ol>
<li><a href="#item01">1. ADMIN</a></li>
<li><a href="#item02">2. LINKS Pages</a></li>
<li><a href="#item03">3. Image Annotation on the Semantic
Web Deliverable</a></li>
<li><a href="#item04">4. Interoperability
Deliverable</a></li>
<li><a href="#item05">4.2 Music Use case: (Oscar)</a></li>
<li><a href="#item06">4.3 News Use case: (Thierry, Chris,
Raphael)</a></li>
<li><a href="#item07">4.4 Photo Use case: (Susanne Boll,
Erik Mannens)</a></li>
<li><a href="#item08">4.5 Tagging Use case: (George,
Thomas, Raphael)</a></li>
<li><a href="#item09">4.6 Algorithm representation Use
case: (Massimo, Suzanne, Patrizia, Ovidio)</a></li>
<li><a href="#item10">4.7 Semantic Multimedia Retrieval Use
case: (Ioannis, Sofia)</a></li>
<li><a href="#item11">5. MPEG-7 Deliverable (10')</a></li>
<li><a href="#item12">6. AOB</a></li>
</ol>
</li>
<li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
</ul>
<hr />
<div class="meeting">
<p class='phone'> </p>
<p class='phone'> </p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>> Meeting: W3C
Multimedia Semantics XG - Telecon 29-03-2007, 16:00 UTC</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>> Scribe: Zeljko</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>JeffP</cite>> Hi Raphael</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chrisa_stamatia</cite>> yes, we are
together in Chania, working on the deliverable</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>JeffP</cite>> Hi guys</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chrisa_stamatia</cite>> hi all!</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>JeffP</cite>> I mean "Hi
ladies"</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chrisa_stamatia</cite>> yeap!</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chrisa_stamatia</cite>> we have
some concerns on the schedule, it is a bit tight given the
Eastern...</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>ocelma</cite>> raphael: i did the
call via the Spanish dial-in number, but not sure whether it
worked (lots of music, but still waiting...)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>ocelma</cite>> ok</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> Scribe: Zeljko</p>
<h3 id="item01">1. ADMIN</h3>
<p class='phone'>PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 15th
March 2007 telecon</p>
<p class='phone'><strong class='resolution'>RESOLUTION:
accepted the minutes of the 15th March 2007
telecon</strong><br />
... Next telecon scheduled: 13th April 2007</p>
<h3 id="item02">2. LINKS Pages</h3>
<p class='phone'>Vocabularies page</p><a name="action01" id=
"action01"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Michael to prepare a stable TR Voc
page for review by next telecon <strong>[PENDING]</strong>
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>> Tools page</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>> Comments from
Raphael: <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2007Mar/0062.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2007Mar/0062.html</a></p>
<p class='phone'>Linking tools page and use cases</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>> The minutes of
15/03/07: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/15-mmsem-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/15-mmsem-minutes.html</a></p>
<p class='phone'>Links from Use Case pages to Tools pages, but
not necessarily other way round</p><a name="action02" id=
"action02"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Zeljko to rise discussion on links
between tool and use cases pages [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action02</a>]</p>
<p class='phone'>Additions to tools page</p>
<p class='phone'>Problems with classifications of tools</p>
<p class='phone'>Video terms too resctrictive?</p>
<p class='phone'>Most of video tools also do the other
media</p>
<p class='phone'>Separate mark for multiple media types</p>
<p class='phone'>"Multimodal" as an alternative?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> add text in
categories</p><a name="action03" id="action03"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Zeljko to rephrase the introduction to
tools classifications [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action03</a>]</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Zeljko:</cite> Tools page has also
linked from other wiki pages, and vice versa</p><a name=
"action04" id="action04"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Jeff and Raphael to ask W3C what will
happen with wiki after the end of XG [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action04</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>SusanneBoll</cite>> I would also
support for keeping the mailing list and Wiki pages active</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jeff:</cite> related to extension of
XG</p>
<h3 id="item03">3. Image Annotation on the Semantic Web
Deliverable</h3><a name="action05" id="action05"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Raphael addresses the comments on
"Image Annotation on the Semantic Web document" by next telecon
change the css style (XG report) <strong>[DONE]</strong>
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action05</a>]</p><a name="action06"
id="action06"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Raphael to write to the list email
with acceptance for publication [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action06</a>]</p>
<h3 id="item04">4. Interoperability Deliverable</h3>
<p class='phone'>4.1 Structure (Vassilis, Jeff)</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jeff:</cite> fixed minor
comments...<br />
... table of content is now restricted to only two
levels...<br />
... moving all the references to end of the document...<br />
... minor but time consuming...<br />
... discuss the use of RDF to improve interoperability...</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>SusanneBoll</cite>> unmute</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>SusanneBoll:</cite> the problem with RDF
is that it cannot access the fraction of the resource...<br />
... rectangle with image, for example...<br />
... reply sent to the list...</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> well known issue,
several possibilities...<br />
... XML snippet, that define the anchor, and annotation
describe that anchor...<br />
... defines how you define the region, MPEG-7 offers more
detailed way...</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>SusanneBoll:</cite> solution, but
complicated</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Chris_Erik_Gaetan</cite>> DIG35
also has some MPEG-7 like solution for this</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> write to the list
concrete problem, to get response about how to od the
annotation</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>SussaneBoll:</cite> is there any
group/paper about this issues?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> "Obscure Object of
Desire: Metadata on the Web"</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jeff:</cite> problem is not about
RDF...<br />
... we need to have some other means to identify
regions...<br />
... meeting with Vasilis...<br />
... section 3.3 of interoperability deliverable...<br />
... discussion about the patterns that we can find in the photo
use case...<br />
... relation with algorithm use case...<br />
... different interoperability requirements of use
cases...<br />
... additional ontologies needed...<br />
... news use case - interesting illustrations of
interoperability problems, but no solutions written in the
Wiki...<br />
... writte all the solutions, and come with common patterns
among use cases...<br />
... add more concrete examples that illustrate both the problem
and solution...</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> time scale about filling
sections</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jeff:</cite> basically ready,
interdependency of sections...</p><a name="action07" id=
"action07"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Jeff and Vasilis to fill 3.1 and 3.2
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action07</a>]</p>
<h3 id="item05">4.2 Music Use case: (Oscar)</h3>
<p class='phone'>ID3 to OWL conversion</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Oscar:</cite> interesting discussion in
the list...<br />
... implementation between ID3 and music ontology<br />
... common ideas as there, should not be difficult to implement
mapping...<br />
... finish coding, update the Wiki pages...</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> do not focus on size of
Wiki pages...<br />
... short and focused is goed...</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Giovanni:</cite> happy to participate
and work with Oscar</p><a name="action08" id="action08"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Oscar to update the UC and the interop
deliverable PENDING [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action08</a>]</p><a name="action09"
id="action09"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Giovanni to explain in more detail
parts of the music use case, defining how to generate play
lists [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action09">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action09</a>]</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Giovanni:</cite> relation with
implementation and output of XG (use case description)?<br />
... actual implementation, or plans, descriptions...</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphale:</cite> XG report text, but can
link implementation of systems...</p><a name="action10" id=
"action10"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Oscar to update a possible scenario
with classical music PENDING [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action10">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action10</a>]</p>
<h3 id="item06">4.3 News Use case: (Thierry, Chris,
Raphael)</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> modified the
wiki...<br />
... late, agressive time plan to finish the use case in a
week...<br />
... focussing the porblems, not clear before...<br />
... updating examples in wiki pages...<br />
... solutions are there, documenting them...</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Chris_Erik_Gaetan</cite>> +q</p>
<h3 id="item07">4.4 Photo Use case: (Susanne Boll, Erik
Mannens)</h3>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Chris_Erik_Gaetan</cite>> unmute
me</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Chris:</cite> 4 thing to say...<br />
... 1. progress from 50% to 85%, done by next teleconf...</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>sboll</cite>> wow</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Chris:</cite> concrete examples...</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>> wowwwwwwww BIS
:-)</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Chris:</cite> 2. to more examples<br />
... 3. licencing issues...<br />
... eager that we use it, but for management commitee they need
written request from W3C...<br />
... but it is gonna be OK...</p><a name="action11" id=
"action11"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Jeff, Raphael and Erik to ask written
W3C about formal written request [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action11">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action11</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>sboll</cite>> unmute me</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> report to the list</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>SusanneBoll:</cite> interesting to look
at this new standard<br />
... should we use it more?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Erik:</cite> XMP, look into it, did not
do it yet...<br />
... after current work...</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>SusanneBoll:</cite> is standard solving
many efforts, or is it still open issue</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Chris:</cite> ontology on the top of
that to combine standards...<br />
... generate one ontology to combine metadata standards...</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> design an old sschema,
is it available?<br />
... how to do the tranformations?</p>
<p class='phone'>Schema is almost done, on th eweb site until
next teleconf...</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>scribe:</cite> not automatic
translation...</p><a name="action12" id="action12"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Erik to send the URL of the DIG35 OWL
Schema by the next telecon [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action12">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action12</a>]</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>scribe:</cite> develop a simple example,
and transfer it into RDF...</p>
<h3 id="item08">4.5 Tagging Use case: (George, Thomas,
Raphael)</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>Thomas:</cite> will be two meetings
about that in April...<br />
...<br />
... in two weeks...<br />
... discuss possible implementations, but not bring
implementation...<br />
... more frequent meeting after...<br />
... post outcome of the meetings...</p>
<h3 id="item09">4.6 Algorithm representation Use case:
(Massimo, Suzanne, Patrizia, Ovidio)</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jeff:</cite> send the comments to the
mailing list...<br />
... pattern not the same for this UC...</p><a name="action13"
id="action13"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Jeff and Vassilis to review algorithm
representation UC <strong>[PENDING]</strong> [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action13">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action13</a>]</p><a name="action14"
id="action14"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Vassilis to contact Massimo to ask for
next steps <strong>[DONE]</strong> [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action14">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action14</a>]</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Massimo:</cite> waiting
review...</p><a name="action15" id="action15"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Jeff to finish a review in one week
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action15">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action15</a>]</p>
<h3 id="item10">4.7 Semantic Multimedia Retrieval Use case:
(Ioannis, Sofia)</h3>
<p class='phone'>Second part of the UC could be dropped?...</p>
<h3 id="item11">5. MPEG-7 Deliverable (10')</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>Raphael:</cite> started discussions,
established very aggressive work plant ot get documents
quickly...<br />
... keep updated the list about the progress...</p>
<h3 id="item12">6. AOB</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jeff:</cite> Future of the XG</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>raphael</cite>> ... discussion on
the list about a possible workshop</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Jeff:</cite> chairs to check the
possibilities of extending XG to get the job done...<br />
... also related to the workshop...</p><a name="action16" id=
"action16"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Jeff and Raphael to contact W3C about
extending XG [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action16">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action16</a>]</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>Erik:</cite> other want to work with us,
also big companies...</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>sboll</cite>> happy easter
everybody</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> see you everybody
:-)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>ThomasFranz</cite>> bye</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chrisa_stamatia</cite>> bye!</p>
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<h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Erik to send the
URL of the DIG35 OWL Schema by the next telecon [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action12">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action12</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Giovanni to
explain in more detail parts of the music use case, defining how
to generate play lists [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action09">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action09</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Jeff and Raphael
to ask W3C what will happen with wiki after the end of XG
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action04</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Jeff and Raphael
to contact W3C about extending XG [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action16">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action16</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Jeff and Vasilis
to fill 3.1 and 3.2 [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action07</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Jeff to finish a
review in one week [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action15">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action15</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Jeff, Raphael and
Erik to ask written W3C about formal written request [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action11">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action11</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Raphael to write
to the list email with acceptance for publication [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action06</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Zeljko to
rephrase the introduction to tools classifications [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action03</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Zeljko to rise
discussion on links between tool and use cases pages [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action02</a>]<br />
<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Jeff and
Vassilis to review algorithm representation UC [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action13">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action13</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Michael to
prepare a stable TR Voc page for review by next telecon [recorded
in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Oscar to
update a possible scenario with classical music [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action10">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action10</a>]<br />
<strong>[PENDING]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Oscar to
update the UC and the interop deliverable [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action08</a>]<br />
<br />
<strong>[DONE]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Raphael
addresses the comments on "Image Annotation on the Semantic Web
document" by next telecon change the css style (XG report)
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action05</a>]<br />
<strong>[DONE]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Vassilis to
contact Massimo to ask for next steps [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action14">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action14</a>]<br />
<br />
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Regrets: Tobias Vassilis Roberto Chris Sofia Pasquale Ioannis Melli Michael
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