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<h1>Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference</h1>
<h2>26 Nov 2008</h2>
<p>See also: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/11/26-mediafrag-irc">IRC log</a></p>
<h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>
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<dt>Present</dt>
<dd>erik, davy, +61.2.801.2.aaaa, Silvia, Yves, Thierry,
jackjansen</dd>
<dt>Regrets</dt>
<dt>Chair</dt>
<dd>Erik</dd>
<dt>Scribe</dt>
<dd>davy</dd>
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<h2>Contents</h2>
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<a href="#agenda">Topics</a>
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<li><a href="#item01">2nd F2F meeting</a></li>
<li><a href="#item02">preparation of working draft</a></li>
<li><a href="#item03">issues</a></li>
<li><a href="#item04">aob</a></li>
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<li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
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<p class='phone'> </p>
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<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Date: 26 November
2008</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> regrets for: Raphael,
Guillaume, Michael</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> Yves, are you on the
phone too?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>thierry</cite>> I ammuted but still
have a terrible buzz</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> ok, let's get
started</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> Yves, can you
scribe?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>thierry</cite>> Buz still here
;-(</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> scribe: davy</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> scribenick: davy</p>
<p class='phone'>Accept minutes of last week?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Silvia</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='phone'>minutes accepted</p>
<h3 id="item01">2nd F2F meeting</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>erik:</cite> both groups will consist of
10 people<br />
... other people from MMLab and VRT medialab will also attend
the meeting<br />
... there is also a first draft of the agenda</p>
<p class='phone'>erik goes through the draft agenda</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/SecondF2FAgenda">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/SecondF2FAgenda</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> sounds good to me!</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>erik:</cite> anyone has some problems
with the draft?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Silvia</cite>> looks good to me</p>
<h3 id="item02">preparation of working draft</h3>
<p class='phone'>3.5 existing technologies</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>erik:</cite> work is ongoing</p>
<p class='phone'>3.4 RTSP</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>erik:</cite> this page seems ok for the
moment</p>
<p class='phone'>3.3 HTTP</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>erik:</cite> raphael still has to do
this</p>
<p class='phone'>3.2 types of fragment addressing</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> I will take a shot at
it as well (HTTP page)</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>silvia:</cite> put information into
wiki, decisions about what to support are taken in f2f</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='phone'>+1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Silvia</cite>> +!</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> I'll add thing about
pros and cons of different solutions</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> wrt HTTP use</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> get better soon! (at
least 8 & 9 dec :)</p>
<p class='phone'>3.1 use cases and requirements</p>
<p class='phone'>silvia elaborates on the document</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>silvia:</cite> we should still decide
what is in and out of scope</p>
<p class='phone'>ACTION erik to review the use cases and
requirements document</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-14
- Review the use cases and requirements document [on Erik
Mannens - due 2008-12-03].</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> it might be good to
publish the use case document as a WG Note at some point
(better to reference a frozen document form the main spec0</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>jackjansen</cite>> the minutes are
empty:-(</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Silvia</cite>> Yves: it is my
expectation that the wiki page will be turned into the FPWD by
Raphael - is that how you think about it, too?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> silvia; yes</p>
<p class='phone'>action Jack to add additional use cases in the
wiki page</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-15
- Add additional use cases in the wiki page [on Jack Jansen -
due 2008-12-03].</p>
<p class='phone'>close ACTION-13</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-13 Examples
of combining Media Fragment URI with SMIL clipBegin and clipEnd
closed</p>
<h3 id="item03">issues</h3>
<p class='phone'>cache discussion</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> yes</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>erik:</cite> leave this open untill next
week</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> 4.issues</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> elaboration on Davy's
page ... <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/HTTP_Fragment_Caches">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/HTTP_Fragment_Caches</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Silvia</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/Types_of_Fragment_Addressing">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/Types_of_Fragment_Addressing</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> Davy: still a lot of
work has to be done on Table</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> Davy: difference
between two pages ("types of adressing" & "HTTP Fragment
caches") ... but of course some info is overlapping</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> this may be merged in
the HTTP page</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Yves</cite>> fragments axis in
Types_of_Fragment_Addressing</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>erik</cite>> still a page needed on
caching (protocol & handshaking stuff)?</p>
<h3 id="item04">aob</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>silvia:</cite> we should work on the
syntax page<br />
... people are waiting for that<br />
... specially HTML5 group (video element)</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>jack:</cite> is it a good idea for HTML5
group? Values regarding fragments are not longer available as
attributes</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>silvia:</cite> attributes are gone, but
are still available in the API</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>jack:</cite> we should provide some
guidelines based on a given scenario</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>erik:</cite> new member: Conrad
Parker</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>silvia:</cite> he will probably only be
active on mailinglist</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>thierry</cite>> No fine</p>
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<h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
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