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  <h1>- DRAFT -</h1>

  <h1>MAWG Telco</h1>

  <h2>11 Jan 2011</h2>

  <p>See also: <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-irc">IRC log</a></p>

  <h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>

  <div class="intro">
    <dl>
      <dt>Present</dt>

      <dd>Jean, Pierre, thierry, pierre-antoine, mari_carmen,
      felix, werner, veronique</dd>

      <dt>Regrets</dt>

      <dd>chris</dd>

      <dt>Chair</dt>

      <dd>thierry</dd>

      <dt>Scribe</dt>

      <dd>Werner</dd>
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  <h2>Contents</h2>

  <ul>
    <li>
      <a href="#agenda">Topics</a>

      <ol>
        <li><a href="#item01">previous minutes</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item02">next meeting</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item03">next F2F</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item04">workshop at ericsson</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item05">action items</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item06">Follow up on Implementation of LC
        comments</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item07">updates to ontology</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item08">API LC comments</a></li>
      </ol>
    </li>

    <li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
  </ul>
  <hr />

  <div class="meeting">
    <p class='phone'></p>

    <p class='phone'></p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; scribe: Werner</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt; scribenick:
    wbailer</p>

    <h3 id="item01">previous minutes</h3>

    <p class='phone'><a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2010/12/21-mediaann-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2010/12/21-mediaann-minutes.html</a></p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2010/12/21-mediaann-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2010/12/21-mediaann-minutes.html</a></p>

    <p class='phone'>approved</p>

    <h3 id="item02">next meeting</h3>

    <p class='phone'>jan. 18</p>

    <h3 id="item03">next F2F</h3>

    <p class='phone'>cupertino, feb 15-16</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; registration</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; &lt;<a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/42786/MAWG-Cupertino/%3E">http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/42786/MAWG-Cupertino/&gt;</a></p>

    <h3 id="item04">workshop at ericsson</h3>

    <p class='phone'>feb 17)</p>

    <p class='phone'>see Joakims mail: <a href=
    "http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2011Jan/0006.html">
    http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2011Jan/0006.html</a></p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; I cannot go to the
    F2F, nor the workshop, although both are interesting, i won't
    go on on the W3C activity after Feb 1st</p>

    <p class='phone'>Jean-pierre, werner interested in attending
    ws</p>

    <p class='phone'>pierre-antoine, felix will not attend f2f</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; Veronique not
    either</p>

    <h3 id="item05">action items</h3>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/open">
    http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/open</a></p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mcsuarez</cite>&gt; Mari Carmen
    Suarez-Figueroa will not attend F2F, sorry.</p>

    <p class='phone'>action 320 on vero</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Sorry, couldn't
    find user - 320</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; ACTION-320
    véronique</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; is it done ?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; I sent the email in
    November or December</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; ... got no answer back
    and saw nothing back on the list</p>

    <p class='phone'>close action-320</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-320 draft
    response for open issues in lc 2418 closed</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; ACTION-348 jean
    Pierre</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; pending</p>

    <p class='phone'>348 pending</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; ACTION-381
    veronique ?</p>

    <p class='phone'>vero, status of 381?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; I did it a long time
    ago, and there was another reviewer who checked out that the
    changes were implemented, have there been other changes to
    re-check up at the last F2f?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; ACTION-383
    Felix</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; pending will be
    done next week</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt; pending</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; Veronique
    ACTION-381 veronique ?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; I did it a long time
    ago, and there was another reviewer who checked out that the
    changes were implemented, have there been other changes to
    re-check up at the last F2f?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>fsasaki</cite>&gt; felix: updated
    ACTION-383 for a deadline of 2011-01-19</p>

    <p class='phone'>close action-381</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-381 Review
    LC 2395 closed</p>

    <p class='phone'>close action-386</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-386 Change
    float to double in the RDF ontology closed</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; ACTION-387 Thieryy
    done</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; ACTION-388 Thieryy
    done</p>

    <p class='phone'>close action-387</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-387 Add
    URIs as allowed values for ma:language and ma:compression
    closed</p>

    <p class='phone'>close action-388</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-388 Remove
    'ma:' from the mapping table closed</p>

    <h3 id="item06">Follow up on Implementation of LC comments</h3>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; <a href=
    "http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Dec/0082.html">
    http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Dec/0082.html</a></p>

    <p class='phone'>emphasis on ontology, to move to 2nd lc
    asap</p>

    <p class='phone'>finish lc comments by end of next week</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; what is the URL at
    which we can access the content mentionned in the mail <a href=
    "http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Dec/0082.html">
    http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Dec/0082.html</a>
    ?</p>

    <p class='phone'><a href=
    "http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Dec/att-0082/LC_Status.html">
    http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Dec/att-0082/LC_Status.html</a></p>

    <p class='phone'>LC Comment -2405 jean-pierre summarised open
    issues</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>thierry:</cite> will check who is
    responsible editors and assign task to work on these issues</p>

    <p class='phone'>LC Comment -2389</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; can someone post the
    URL of the LC comments list? Could not find it.</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; woops, posted above,
    just saw it</p>

    <p class='phone'>werner to send text to be included in sec 6,
    thierry to include it</p>

    <p class='phone'>LC Comment -2403:</p>

    <p class='phone'>According to WG notes: "Véronique will add a
    Subtitles example"</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; -- LC Comment
    -2403: NO - partially implemented :Subtitles example
    missing</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; According to WG
    notes: "Véronique will add a Subtitles example" - NOT DONE!</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; Véronique can you
    handle this ?</p><a name="action01" id="action01"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> Véronique to add subtitles example -
    lc comment 2403 [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-391
    - Add subtitles example - lc comment 2403 [on Véronique Malaisé
    - due 2011-01-18].</p>

    <p class='phone'>LC Comment -2404</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>pchampin</cite>&gt; review by myself,
    I think</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; I can't remember what
    this "add a subtitle example" refers to...</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; can someone else do
    it?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; <a href=
    "http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Nov/0085.html">
    http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Nov/0085.html</a></p>

    <p class='phone'>pierre-antoine to check if addition is in
    current version in dev space</p><a name="action02" id=
    "action02"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> pierre-antoine to send thierry the
    text to be included - lc 2404 [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action02</a>]</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-392
    - Send thierry the text to be included - lc 2404 [on
    Pierre-Antoine Champin - due 2011-01-18].</p>

    <p class='phone'>veronique, can you try to find out with help
    of thierry to find out what the issue was about</p>

    <p class='phone'>LC Comment -2417</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; can we email later? or
    skype? I'm online</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; <a href=
    "http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Nov/0144.html">
    http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Nov/0144.html</a></p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; I thought that the
    subtitle example was one of the examples provided in the
    example section</p><a name="action03" id="action03"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> thierry to ask PLING for example - lc
    2417 [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action03</a>]</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-393
    - Ask PLING for example - lc 2417 [on Thierry Michel - due
    2011-01-18].</p>

    <p class='phone'>LC Comment -2418:</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; Thierry, Werner?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; I thought that the
    subtitle example was one of the examples provided in the
    example section</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; ... so it is there</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; ... but not related to
    what I've done I think that Chris added it</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; if someone understands
    better what should be done, please go ahead with the action
    point!</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; I don't
    know</p><a name="action04" id="action04"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> thierry to check implementation of
    LC2418 - action 320 [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action04</a>]</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-394
    - Check implementation of LC2418 - action 320 [on Thierry
    Michel - due 2011-01-18].</p>

    <p class='phone'>veronique, thierry will check this</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; thanks!</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; 2419 looks that it
    is implemented according to Jean Pierre</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; API discussion
    Florian and Chris missing ...</p>

    <h3 id="item07">updates to ontology</h3>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; Chris said an email
    saying that he agreed with Florian's comments and is OK to
    implement them in the API document</p>

    <p class='phone'>comments by mari carmen before christmas</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>jean-pierre:</cite> propose to review
    comments until next week, together with pierre-antoine, mari
    carmen and tobias<br />
    ... comments not yet implemented</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; I agree with J-P
    Evain's answers</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>jean-pierre:</cite> proposed changes not
    yet implement, to be reviewed and agreed before enxt week</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mcsuarez</cite>&gt; i agree</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; +1</p><a name=
    "action05" id="action05"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> jean-pierre to make proposal for
    updated ontology by mail together with pierre-antoine, mari
    carmen and tobias [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action05</a>]</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-395
    - Make proposal for updated ontology by mail together with
    pierre-antoine, mari carmen and tobias [on Jean-Pierre EVAIN -
    due 2011-01-18].</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; -- LC Comment
    -2418:</p>

    <h3 id="item08">API LC comments</h3>

    <p class='phone'>LC Comment -2406</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; -- LC Comment
    -2406</p>

    <p class='phone'>joakim contacted browser implementors, but no
    response</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; ACTION-379 : Tobias
    to review LC 2406 [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action09">http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action09</a>]</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; ACTION-380: Felix
    to review LC 2406 [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action10">http://www.w3.org/2010/11/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action10</a>]</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; ACTION-380 Review
    LC 2406 notes added</p>

    <p class='phone'>felix proposes to go back and talk to
    doug</p><a name="action06" id="action06"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> thierry to discuss with joakim and
    send mail to doug [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action06</a>]</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-396
    - Discuss with joakim and send mail to doug [on Thierry Michel
    - due 2011-01-18].</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; -- LC Comment
    -2395</p>

    <p class='phone'>LC Comment -2395</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt; done, explanation of
    exceptions is in the current version of the api doc</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tmichel</cite>&gt; -- LC Comment -2394
    : OK : Fully implemented ???</p>

    <p class='phone'>not done, text is still at beginning of
    section 3.1</p><a name="action07" id="action07"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> chris to implement issue from lc 2394
    regarding HTML5 - HTMLMediaElement implements MediaResource
    [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action07</a>]</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-397
    - Implement issue from lc 2394 regarding HTML5 -
    HTMLMediaElement implements MediaResource [on Chris Poppe - due
    2011-01-18].</p>

    <p class='phone'>thierry asks for review of ontology document,
    it will be frozen after going to second lc</p><a name=
    "action08" id="action08"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> thierry to send reminder email to
    group to review ontology document [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action08</a>]</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-398
    - Send reminder email to group to review ontology document [on
    Thierry Michel - due 2011-01-18].</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>pchampin</cite>&gt; bye bye</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>mcsuarez</cite>&gt; bye</p>

    <p class='phone'>[adjourned]</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>Vero</cite>&gt; goodbye!</p>
  </div>

  <h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
  Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> chris to
  implement issue from lc 2394 regarding HTML5 - HTMLMediaElement
  implements MediaResource [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action07</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> jean-pierre to
  make proposal for updated ontology by mail together with
  pierre-antoine, mari carmen and tobias [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action05</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> pierre-antoine to
  send thierry the text to be included - lc 2404 [recorded in
  <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action02</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> thierry to ask
  PLING for example - lc 2417 [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action03</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> thierry to check
  implementation of LC2418 - action 320 [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action04</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> thierry to
  discuss with joakim and send mail to doug [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action06</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> thierry to send
  reminder email to group to review ontology document [recorded in
  <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action08</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Véronique to add
  subtitles example - lc comment 2403 [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-mediaann-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br />

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