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<h1>- DRAFT -</h1>
<h1>MAWG</h1>
<h2>06 Jul 2010</h2>
<p><a href=
'http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Jul/0005.html'>
Agenda</a></p>
<p>See also: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/07/06-mediaann-irc">IRC log</a></p>
<h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>
<div class="intro">
<dl>
<dt>Present</dt>
<dd>Thierry, Joakim, Florian, pierre, Felix</dd>
<dt>Regrets</dt>
<dd>raphael, john, tobias, chris</dd>
<dt>Chair</dt>
<dd>Thierry</dd>
<dt>Scribe</dt>
<dd>felix</dd>
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<h2>Contents</h2>
<ul>
<li>
<a href="#agenda">Topics</a>
<ol>
<li><a href="#item01">Convene</a></li>
<li><a href="#item02">next meeting</a></li>
<li><a href="#item03">next f2f meeting</a></li>
<li><a href="#item04">Action items</a></li>
<li><a href="#item05">Extend the LC period until the end of
August or not?</a></li>
<li><a href="#item06">LC comments</a></li>
<li><a href="#item07">Namespace Discussion</a></li>
<li><a href="#item08">RDF Task force update and
progress</a></li>
<li><a href="#item09">Test Suite Progress</a></li>
<li><a href="#item10">AOB</a></li>
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</li>
<li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
</ul>
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<div class="meeting">
<p class='phone'></p>
<p class='phone'></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tmichel</cite>> I am the only one
on zakim ?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> scribe: felix</p>
<h3 id="item01">Convene</h3>
<p class='phone'>minutes from last meeting <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/06/29-mediaann-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2010/06/29-mediaann-minutes.html</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>thierry:</cite> last minutes
approved?</p>
<p class='phone'><strong class='resolution'>RESOLUTION: minutes
approved</strong></p>
<h3 id="item02">next meeting</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>thierry:</cite> next meeting
2010-08-31</p>
<h3 id="item03">next f2f meeting</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>thierry:</cite> dates are September
8,9,10<br />
... please register at <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/42786/MAWG-Sophia/">http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/42786/MAWG-Sophia/</a><br />
... logistic page ist at <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/Sophia2010Logistics">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/Sophia2010Logistics</a><br />
... registration will close on August 20th<br />
... please register ASAP<br />
... questions about f2f?<br />
... will work out agenda at next teleconf, after summer
break<br />
... logistic page has a bunch of hotels<br />
... please make reservations for the hotels ASAP<br />
... since there will be heavy bookings in early September</p>
<h3 id="item04">Action items</h3>
<p class='phone'><a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/open">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/open</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>thierry:</cite> for ACTION-47,
ACTION-189, ACTION-214, ACTION-223 : responsible people are not
on the call</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>joakim:</cite> about ACTION-234: planned
to advertise our spec to Google<br />
... will keep this open for after the summer break</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>thierry:</cite> create a namespace doc
for joakim, ACTION-259, why this one?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>joakim:</cite> there was no formal
namespace description at all, Felix showed me some examples of
namespace documents</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>felix:</cite> would be good to have
something that resolves at the namespace location<br />
... I have no preference whether that should be a namespace
document or something else</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>thierry:</cite> agree that we need
something<br />
... I have an HTML document, will change that to the new
location with the #<br />
... so we can close ACTION-259</p>
<p class='phone'>close ACTION-259</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-259 Create
a namespace doc closed</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>thierry:</cite> ACTION-261, done with an
PHP script, need to coordinate with Wonsuk that he can include
the code in the doc<br />
... leave this open for later<br />
... ACTION-263 done</p>
<p class='phone'>close ACTION-263</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-263 Provide
info on hotel and logistics for upcoming f2f closed</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>thierry:</cite> ACTION-266 is an action
to the editor, probably wonsuk</p>
<p class='phone'>close ACTION-267</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> ACTION-267
Organize a call asap, e.g. next week closed</p>
<h3 id="item05">Extend the LC period until the end of August or
not?</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>thierry:</cite> don't think that
extension of LC is a good idea<br />
... suggest that we keep the current July date open<br />
... WG will send in comments late, as usual</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>felix:</cite> understand thierry's
rationale<br />
... I think it is mostly important to have a period for the
fragments folks to provide comments</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>thierry:</cite> we can say "LC period is
July 11th", but we will accept responses that are late<br />
... but we want them before our f2f meeting<br />
... if we push until September 1st, we will not get anything
for the f2f meeting<br />
... even if we get a late LC comment, we will accept it<br />
... hence, would like to avoid an offical push of postponing
the date<br />
... before going to LC I asked the groups if they are OK with
the July date, groups were OK with that<br />
... plan to say "closing date is still the same, if people are
late we will ack their response anyway, but we must have the
comments before the f2f meeting"<br />
... everybody on the call fine with that?</p>
<p class='phone'>+1</p>
<p class='phone'><strong class='resolution'>RESOLUTION: plan
for LC "closing date is still the same, if people are late we
will ack their response anyway, but we must have the comments
before the f2f meeting" accepted</strong></p>
<h3 id="item06">LC comments</h3>
<p class='phone'>discussion of the "mapping table should be
non-normative" comment</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>thierry:</cite> will send out responses
to LC comments after the f2f meeting<br />
... there are still some LC comments which need a volunteer to
take care of them<br />
... please speak up if you are available for (one of)
them</p><a name="action01" id="action01"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Thierry to send mail to remind for
volunteers taking care of LC comments [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/07/06-mediaann-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2010/07/06-mediaann-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-268
- Send mail to remind for volunteers taking care of LC comments
[on Thierry Michel - due 2010-07-13].</p>
<h3 id="item07">Namespace Discussion</h3>
<p class='phone'>suggested namespace is <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont">http://www.w3.org/ns/ma-ont</a>#</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>thierry:</cite> there was a resolution
to agree on this new namespace last week<br />
... two things to change, wonsuk should change the string<br />
... I will make sure that the string is resolved<br />
... any questions?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>joakim:</cite> is that common to use
#?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>thierry:</cite> have seen both</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>pchampin</cite>> the RDF namespace
itself uses # :)</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>felix:</cite> I think both versions are
fine<br />
... for RDF the hash version is more practical<br />
... see "cool URIs for the semantic web" document</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>pchampin</cite>> but # namespaces
are slightly easier to publish than / namespaces</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>pchampin:</cite> exactly</p>
<h3 id="item08">RDF Task force update and progress</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>thierry:</cite> tobias not here,
skipped</p>
<h3 id="item09">Test Suite Progress</h3>
<p class='phone'>thierry goes through the contributions from
Florian and Werner, and test suite proposal from Chris</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>florian:</cite> "library to extract test
cases for JavaScript" based on an earlier version of webIdl (I
think that it is the same a thierry mentioned), so not
appropriate for us<br />
... will report about the library at next call</p><a name=
"action02" id="action02"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Florian to report about "library to
extract test cases for JavaScript" at next call [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/07/06-mediaann-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2010/07/06-mediaann-minutes.html#action02</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-269
- Report about "library to extract test cases for JavaScript"
at next call [on Florian Stegmaier - due 2010-07-13].</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>thierry:</cite> not sure how to move
forward with test suite issue</p>
<h3 id="item10">AOB</h3>
<p class='phone'><cite>thierry:</cite> have a good summer
break<br />
... I will track comments during the summer break<br />
... will remind groups to send their comments</p>
<p class='phone'>adjourned</p>
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<h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Florian to report
about "library to extract test cases for JavaScript" at next call
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/07/06-mediaann-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2010/07/06-mediaann-minutes.html#action02</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Thierry to send
mail to remind for volunteers taking care of LC comments
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/07/06-mediaann-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2010/07/06-mediaann-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br />
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[End of minutes]<br />
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