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<h1>- DRAFT -</h1>
<h1>MAWG Vienna F2F day 3</h1>
<h2>28 Apr 2010</h2>
<p>See also: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-irc">IRC log</a></p>
<h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>
<div class="intro">
<dl>
<dt>Present</dt>
<dd>daniel, wonsuk, tobias, florian, john, joakim, martin,
werner, Felix(afternoon_partially_on_IRC)</dd>
<dt>Regrets</dt>
<dt>Chair</dt>
<dd>daniel, joakim</dd>
<dt>Scribe</dt>
<dd>wbailer</dd>
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<h2>Contents</h2>
<ul>
<li>
<a href="#agenda">Topics</a>
<ol>
<li><a href="#item01">Test suite</a></li>
<li><a href="#item02">review of changes to ontology
document</a></li>
<li><a href="#item03">review of changes to API
document</a></li>
</ol>
</li>
<li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
</ul>
<hr />
<div class="meeting">
<p class='phone'></p>
<p class='phone'></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>daniel</cite>> get started the last
day...editing times for both documents.</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>daniel</cite>> no scriber this
morning session</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>daniel</cite>> chris: IRC will be
mute, do you need to join the call bridge ?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>daniel</cite>> chris: IRC will be
mute, do you need to join the call bridge ?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chris</cite>> hi daniel, I will
only call in if absolutely necessary</p>
<p class='phone'>chris, what is the status of your action items
for the document?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chris</cite>> wait, Im checking my
APs</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chris</cite>> actionitem 237 is
done ( added lots of examples for the properties)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chris</cite>> actionitem 238 is
also done I think, since this is related I assume</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chris</cite>> ah no wait action 238
is not done, I need to create an example with metadata in
different languages</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>joakim</cite>> Hi Chris, we will
have an editing session until 11.00</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chris</cite>> actionitem 244 is
done</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chris</cite>> actionitem 245 is
done</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>joakim</cite>> Ok thats great!</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chris</cite>> so if I want to make
additional changes to the document, where do I start from?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chris</cite>> is there a new
version somewhere?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>joakim</cite>> How about writing
webIdl example for the use cases we sent yesterday?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chris</cite>> I will try (it wil be
javascript examples by the way since webIDL is only for
interfaces)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>joakim</cite>> ok :-)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chris</cite>> check that in the API
document in section 3.8.1.1 there is still an old example that
can be removed (the second one)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chris</cite>> the same for section
3.10.2.1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chris</cite>> and 3.11.2.1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chris</cite>> and 3.12.1.1 and
3.12.6.1 and 3.12.8.1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>joakim</cite>> and then there is
the list of status codes sent by Florian (according to Robin
#46)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chris</cite>> yes I leave it up to
you guys to integrate this in the document</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chris</cite>> I will focus on the
examples</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>joakim</cite>> Ok great. BTW your
version of the API is the last one!</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>joakim</cite>> When you are
finished we can integrate changes from Felix in to your
version</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chris</cite>> hmm my version can
not be the last one since there are action items for Wonsuk and
Werner that have not been integrated (by me)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chris</cite>> converting the image
to svg, changing the name of setMAResource, adding units for
framesize</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>wonsuk</cite>> Chris, in my case i
didn't do that :)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>wonsuk</cite>> don't worry ;)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>daniel</cite>> action to werner is
*unit*. he will do this laer, therefore your version can be the
latest one...please go ahead with yours</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Sorry, couldn't
find user - to</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>wonsuk</cite>> chris, concerning
the svg version of image, it's not working correctly in the
Chrome and firefox. so i think that we need to apply this
later.</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chris</cite>> I just noticed that
numTracks in the ontology document is updated to hold the
number and the specification?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chris</cite>> can somebody confirm
this so that I can change it in the API?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>florian</cite>> chris</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chris</cite>> yes?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>florian</cite>> yeah, thats
right</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tobiasb</cite>> <a href=
"http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-1.0/mediaont-1.0.html">
http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-1.0/mediaont-1.0.html</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>tobiasb</cite>> section 4.1.2</p>
<p class='phone'>it's the style referenced in the mapping
tables, eg. <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/WD/summary.html">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/WD/summary.html</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chris</cite>> lunch time for me</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chris</cite>> I have sent a mail
with the updated API doc</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chris</cite>> And another mail with
proposal of example code for the use cases that Joakim
described (and some open questions :))</p>
<p class='phone'>we are going to start with the test suite now,
if some of you want to phone in</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chris</cite>> so action item 238 is
done</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>martinh</cite>> rdfs:range sec.3.1
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-schema/#ch_property">http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-schema/#ch_property</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>martinh</cite>> rdfs:range sec.3.1
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-schema/#ch_property">http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-schema/#ch_property</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chris</cite>> werner, I am assuming
that you got mail of wednesday 14th concerning the test
suites</p>
<p class='phone'>yes, the one concerion action-227</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>martinh</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/TR/owl-ref/">http://www.w3.org/TR/owl-ref/</a>
wbailer 4.1.3</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> scribe: wbailer</p>
<h3 id="item01">Test suite</h3><a name="action01" id=
"action01"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> joakim to prepare a document
containing the examples from thes introduction (to be used for
test cases) [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-250
- Prepare a document containing the examples from thes
introduction (to be used for test cases) [on Joakim Söderberg -
due 2010-05-05].</p>
<p class='phone'>felix' proposal for test suite: <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Feb/0065.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Feb/0065.html</a></p>
<p class='phone'><cite>tobias:</cite> thierry commented that
this is not a test suite design</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>joakim:</cite> assume we have a test
case, how could we implement it?<br />
... conclusion was to have a generic return format in test
cases, but not for the input<br />
... no decision on intermediate format to decouple extraction
from format and the actual api implementation</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>werner:</cite> could rdf/owl based
representation be an intermedia representation?</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>joakim:</cite> could be considered as
some kind of xml, without the need to specifically deal with
rdf/owl in the implementation<br />
... scheduling: may will be taken by dealing with lc feedback,
so we should try to get progress on the test suite before
summer<br />
... is this feasible?<br />
... using the rdf format would be an advantage, as it's already
there by then</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>daniel:</cite> there is no official
document related to test suite<br />
... result of conformance testing is relevant</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>joakim:</cite> there is no document to
be delivered, but there will be a web service</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>wonsuk:</cite> the example we look at
from html 5 is just a page accessed with the different
browsers<br />
... in our case there will be implementations in a browser or
standalone application</p>
<p class='phone'>(joakim draws example on flip chart)</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>daniel:</cite> have a way to select test
cases for certain formats<br />
... certain implementers will only support certain formats</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>joakim:</cite> start with test cases for
one property</p>
<p class='phone'>we need several test per property</p><a name=
"action02" id="action02"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> florian to supply jpeg images with
exif [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action02</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-251
- Supply jpeg images with exif [on Florian Stegmaier - due
2010-05-05].</p><a name="action03" id="action03"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> tobias to provide mp3 file with id3
info [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action03</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-252
- Provide mp3 file with id3 info [on Tobias Bürger - due
2010-05-05].</p><a name="action04" id="action04"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> werner to provide mpeg-7 describing a
moview [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action04</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-253
- Provide mpeg-7 describing a moview [on Werner Bailer - due
2010-05-05].</p>
<p class='phone'>(group photo!)</p>
<h3 id="item02">review of changes to ontology document</h3>
<p class='phone'>going through issues in excel sheet</p>
<p class='phone'>3 is pending</p>
<p class='phone'>10 is not done, but dfn should be ok</p>
<p class='phone'>11: we have text, needs to be edited, john
will do when going through document</p>
<p class='phone'>14 to be done</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>daniel</cite>> resume our session
this afternoon. checking out the status of all comments</p>
<p class='phone'>16 to be done</p>
<p class='phone'>17 checked xml schema types with html 5, need
to add text discussing our choice</p>
<p class='phone'>22 formating to be done</p>
<p class='phone'>25 to be done, felix to propose namespace
uri</p><a name="action05" id="action05"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> felix to propose namespace URI for
mawg [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action05</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-254
- Propose namespace URI for mawg [on Felix Sasaki - due
2010-05-05].</p><a name="action06" id="action06"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> joakim to draft text concerning mawg
namespace and ma prefix [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action06</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-255
- Draft text concerning mawg namespace and ma prefix [on Joakim
Söderberg - due 2010-05-05].</p>
<p class='phone'>26: example provided, wonsuk to insert</p>
<p class='phone'>34 to be decided</p>
<p class='phone'>we will use mediaType, wonsuk to edit</p>
<p class='phone'>43 to be done by john</p>
<p class='phone'>there is a new version of the ontology doc
online, and we still have a list of todos (wonsuk is adding
them to the wiki)</p>
<p class='phone'>vote for LC will be on the condition that the
issues in this list are done</p>
<p class='phone'>issues for LC are collected at <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/index.php?title=Issues_for_LC">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/index.php?title=Issues_for_LC</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>fsasaki</cite>> wbailer, all: I
have sent a mail to Joakim, see also <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-archive/2010Apr/0134.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-archive/2010Apr/0134.html</a>
- that closes my action item ACTION-254</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>daniel</cite>> straw poll here:
what's your preference ? ma:compression vs ma:coding vs
ma:encoding....Please select only one now</p>
<h3 id="item03">review of changes to API document</h3>
<p class='phone'>going through the issues in the excel file
(<a href=
"https://www.dimis.fim.uni-passau.de/~stegmai/API_issues.xlsx)">https://www.dimis.fim.uni-passau.de/~stegmai/API_issues.xlsx)</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chpoppe</cite>> Robin's comment was
based on an earlier version of the API-document. IMO the new
version is more clear on this aspect</p>
<p class='phone'>issue 7 is considered resolved</p>
<p class='phone'>chris, issue 11: has the example been
added?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chpoppe</cite>> yes, see section
3.1.1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>daniel</cite>> ma:compression (0),
ma:encoding (6), ma:coding (1) - What about you ? Tell me in
IRC now</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chpoppe</cite>> I have no strong
opinion on this matter so I give a blanco vote :)</p>
<p class='phone'>12 done</p>
<p class='phone'>14 done, but some issues with embedded svg in
some browsers</p>
<p class='phone'>15 setContext to be changes to selectContext
(to avoid confusion with a setter), to be done by chris</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chpoppe</cite>> setContext is
deprecated, it has been changed to setMAResource and according
to comments it is now selectMAResource</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chpoppe</cite>> see section
3.1.1</p>
<p class='phone'>15 is done</p>
<p class='phone'>20 to be completed by florian</p>
<p class='phone'>21 wonsuk to add same example as in ontology
doc</p>
<p class='phone'>25 to be done, drop sentence "possibilities
are ..." (wonsuk)</p>
<p class='phone'>30 to be done by wonsuk</p>
<p class='phone'>36 to be done by joakim</p>
<p class='phone'>38 to be done by wonsuk</p>
<p class='phone'>39 changes to be checked between wonsuk and
chris (inheritance from maobject)</p>
<p class='phone'>40 same issue as with 39</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chpoppe</cite>> hmm yes the format
and samplingrate interface should inherit from the MAObject</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chpoppe</cite>> as all other
properties</p>
<p class='phone'>46 list of error codes to be included by
chris</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chpoppe</cite>> wonsuk can you just
change this? so "interface Samplingrate {" should be "interface
Samplingrate: MAObject {"</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chpoppe</cite>> hmm it's better
that wonsuk includes these error codes</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chpoppe</cite>> I have a meeting in
15 minutes and don't have time to do this now</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>wonsuk</cite>> chris, I will do the
change the format and samplingrate...</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>wonsuk</cite>> so please upload
last version to the cvs repository before you go to the
meeting.</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chpoppe</cite>> I dont have a last
version</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chpoppe</cite>> my last version was
that of noon</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>wonsuk</cite>> ok. chris.
thanks.</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chpoppe</cite>> btw if you change
the Format interface, also change it in appendix</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chpoppe</cite>> appendix A</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>wonsuk</cite>> ok.. i will do
that</p>
<p class='phone'>53 florian to provide an example (considering
the recommendations from dominique, see <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Apr/0134.html)">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Apr/0134.html)</a></p>
<p class='phone'>54 to be done by john</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chpoppe</cite>> I need to go, keep
up the good work guys, and have a safe trip home!</p>
<p class='phone'>vote for going to lc with ontology doc:</p>
<p class='phone'>latest draft: <a href=
"http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-1.0/mediaont-1.0.html">
http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-1.0/mediaont-1.0.html</a></p>
<p class='phone'>going to LC when issues at are resolved:
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/index.php?title=Issues_for_LC">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/index.php?title=Issues_for_LC</a></p>
<p class='phone'>do you agree to lc when the listed changes are
applied to the current draft?</p>
<p class='phone'>+1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>daniel</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>martinh</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>wonsuk</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>fsasaki</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>joakim:</cite> +1</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>john:</cite> +1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>wonsuk</cite>> open issues of api
doc: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/Open_issues_of_API_doc_for_LC">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/Open_issues_of_API_doc_for_LC</a></p>
<p class='phone'>vote for going to lc with api doc:</p>
<p class='phone'>going to LC when issues at are resolved:
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/index.php?title=Issues_for_LC">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/index.php?title=Issues_for_LC</a>
(see lower section for API doc issues)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>fsasaki</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='phone'>latest draft of api doc: <a href=
"http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-api-1.0/mediaont-api-1.0.html">
http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-api-1.0/mediaont-api-1.0.html</a></p>
<p class='phone'>do you agree to go to lc when the listed
changes are applied to the current draft?</p>
<p class='phone'>+1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>daniel</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>wonsuk</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>martinh</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>fsasaki</cite>> but *now*: 1+</p>
<p class='phone'><cite>john:</cite> +1</p><a name="action07"
id="action07"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> wonsuk to integrate felix' "usage as a
service" changes into the api doc [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action07</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-256
- Integrate felix' "usage as a service" changes into the api
doc [on WonSuk Lee - due 2010-05-05].</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>daniel</cite>> Joakim: +1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>daniel</cite>> voting results on
both ontology and API docs: YES (7), NO (0)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>joakim</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='phone'>[F2F closed]</p>
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<h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> felix to propose
namespace URI for mawg [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action05</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> florian to supply
jpeg images with exif [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action02</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> joakim to draft
text concerning mawg namespace and ma prefix [recorded in
<a href="http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action06">
http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action06</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> joakim to prepare
a document containing the examples from thes introduction (to be
used for test cases) [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> tobias to provide
mp3 file with id3 info [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action03</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> werner to provide
mpeg-7 describing a moview [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action04</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> wonsuk to
integrate felix' "usage as a service" changes into the api doc
[recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action07</a>]<br />
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