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<h1>- DRAFT -</h1>
<h1>W3C Multimedia Semantics XG - Telecon 26-04-2007, 16:00
UTC</h1>
<h2>26 Apr 2007</h2>
<p><a href=
'http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2007Apr/0079.html'>
Agenda</a></p>
<p>See also: <a href="http://www.w3.org/2007/04/26-mmsem-irc">IRC
log</a></p>
<h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>
<div class="intro">
<dl>
<dt>Present</dt>
<dd>Raphael, Zeljko, Paola, TobiasBuerger, Giovanni, alessio,
Oscar, Chrisa, Jeff, ErikMannens, Melli, Massimo</dd>
<dt>Regrets</dt>
<dd>Roberto_Ellero, Suzanne_Little, Susanne_Boll,
Pasquale_Popolizo, Michael_Hausenblas, Thomas_Franz,
Stamatia, Thierry_Declerk, Sofia</dd>
<dt>Chair</dt>
<dd>Jeff, Raphael</dd>
<dt>Scribe</dt>
<dd>Raphael</dd>
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<h2>Contents</h2>
<ul>
<li>
<a href="#agenda">Topics</a>
<ol>
<li><a href="#item01">1. ADMIN</a></li>
<li><a href="#item02">2. LINKS Pages (5')</a></li>
<li><a href="#item03">3. Image Annotation on the Semantic
Web Deliverable (5')</a></li>
<li><a href="#item04">4. Interoperability Deliverable
(20')</a></li>
<li><a href="#item05">4.1 Structure (Vassilis,
Jeff)</a></li>
<li><a href="#item06">4.2 Music Use case: (Oscar)</a></li>
<li><a href="#item07">4.3 News Use case: (Thierry, Chris,
Raphael)</a></li>
<li><a href="#item08">4.4 Photo Use case: (Susanne Boll,
Erik Mannens)</a></li>
<li><a href="#item09">5. MPEG-7 Deliverable (5')</a></li>
<li><a href="#item10">6. Future of the XG (20')</a></li>
<li><a href="#item11">7. AOB</a></li>
</ol>
</li>
<li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
</ul>
<hr />
<div class="meeting">
<p class='phone'> </p>
<p class='phone'> </p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> Scribe: Raphael</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>> Scribenick:
raphael</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> hi raphael</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>alessio_</cite>> hi all</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chrisa</cite>> hi all!</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>alessio_</cite>> one number it's
mine, zakim</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>alessio_</cite>> yes :)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>alessio_</cite>> italy</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>alessio_</cite>> yes</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> zakim:mute me</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> ops .. coluns</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> :-)</p>
<h3 id="item01">1. ADMIN</h3>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> oscar oscar..</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>ocelma</cite>> I'm close to a
window, that's where to noise come from :-)</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>ocelma</cite>> to->the</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>ocelma</cite>> come->comes</p>
<p class='phone'>chrisa, you will join us on the phone ?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> PROPOSED to accept
the minutes of the 12th April 2007 telecon: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-mmsem-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-mmsem-minutes.html</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> RESOLUTION: Accept
the minutes of the 12th April 2007 telecon: <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-mmsem-minutes.html">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-mmsem-minutes.html</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chrisa</cite>> no</p>
<h3 id="item02">2. LINKS Pages (5')</h3>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chrisa</cite>> I am from
home...</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> Pages are stable</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> PROPOSED: Publish
"Multimedia Vocabularies on the Semantic Web" as an</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> XGR, see: <a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2007Apr/0061.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2007Apr/0061.html</a></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> Some comments on the
list, more to come</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> All the comments
have been addressed</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> No major comments,
that should delay publication</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> RESOLUTION: Publish
"Multimedia Vocabularies on the Semantic Web" as an</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> XGR, after see:
<a href=
"http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2007Apr/0061.html">
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-mmsem/2007Apr/0061.html</a></p>
<h3 id="item03">3. Image Annotation on the Semantic Web
Deliverable (5')</h3>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> Not all comments
have been addressed</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> PROPOSED: Publish
"Image Annotation on the Semantic Web" as an XGR</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> No objections</p>
<h3 id="item04">4. Interoperability Deliverable (20')</h3>
<h3 id="item05">4.1 Structure (Vassilis, Jeff)</h3>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> Jeff to change the
document and send email to the group</p>
<p class='phone'>Jeff, Vassilis to turn the wiki page into an
XGR</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>TobiasBuerger</cite>> Raphael, I
would prefer interoperability</p><a name="action01" id=
"action01"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Jeff and Vasilis to fill 3.1 and 3.2
-- drop [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/04/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> Interoperability as
a term insteda of framework</p><a name="action02" id=
"action02"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Jeff and Vasilis to fill 3.1 and 3.2
[recorded in [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/04/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action02</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action07</a>]
<strong>[DROPPED]</strong></p>
<h3 id="item06">4.2 Music Use case: (Oscar)</h3><a name=
"action03" id="action03"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Giovanni to explain in more detail
parts of the music use [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/04/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action03</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> case, defining how
to generate play lists [recorded in</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action09">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action09</a>]
<strong>[DONE]</strong></p><a name="action04" id=
"action04"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Oscar to update a possible scenario
with classical music [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/04/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action04</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> (thanks to Ivan
Herman) [recorded in</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action07</a>]
{DONE]</p><a name="action05" id="action05"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Oscar to update the UC and the interop
deliverable [recorded [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/04/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action05</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action06</a>]
<strong>[DONE]</strong></p>
<h3 id="item07">4.3 News Use case: (Thierry, Chris,
Raphael)</h3>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> CTION: Raphael to
contact Susanne regarding converge for a solution</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> for the use case
[recorded in</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action14">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action14</a>]
<strong>[DONE]</strong></p>
<h3 id="item08">4.4 Photo Use case: (Susanne Boll, Erik
Mannens)</h3><a name="action06" id="action06"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Chris, Thierry and Raphael to update
the UC and the interop [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/04/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action06</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> deliverable
[recorded in</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/02/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action12">http://www.w3.org/2007/02/01-mmsem-minutes.html#action12</a>]
<strong>[DONE]</strong></p>
<h3 id="item09">5. MPEG-7 Deliverable (5')</h3><a name=
"action07" id="action07"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Oscar, Stamatia, Raphael, Suzanne,
Chrisa, Michael to give an [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/04/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action07</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> update of the MPEG-7
deliverable by next telecon [recorded in</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-mmsem-minutes.html#action20">http://www.w3.org/2007/02/15-mmsem-minutes.html#action20</a>]
<strong>[DROPPED]</strong></p>
<h3 id="item10">6. Future of the XG (20')</h3><a name=
"action08" id="action08"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Jeff to contact W3C representative to
discuss charter [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/04/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action08</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> extension [recorded
in</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-mmsem-minutes.html#action04</a>]
<strong>[DONE]</strong></p><a name="action09" id=
"action09"></a>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Jeff, Raphael and Erik to ask written
W3C about formal written [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/04/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action09">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action09</a>]</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> request [recorded
in</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action11">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/29-mmsem-minutes.html#action11</a>]
<strong>[DONE]</strong></p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> Raphael: summarizing
today's discussion about the future of XG</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> ... need to compile
use cases into visionary document...</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> ... second document,
link of MPEG-7 with outher standards...</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> ... third document
about industrial problems...</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> .. additional
documents, Vassilis about cultural domain...</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> ... talk with
companies and industrial partners ...</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> ... starting time in
September...</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> ...having a chair
from academic world and industry...</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> ... support for
document about cultural problems...</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> ... wiki and public
mailing list are always open...</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Paola</cite>> can I ask a
question?</p>
<p class='phone'>sure paola, I give you the ball afterwards</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> Paola: sponsorship
by compnies, additional, or just participation of W3C
members?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> Raphael: non W3C
cannot participate.</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> Paola: is that
asking for more money?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> Jeff: no additional
money.</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> Paola: if it is not
additional money, than it is much better</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> Jeff: keep the
original ones</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> Raphael: industrial
W3C partners have interest to participate and sponsor this
group</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> Jeff: we need to
have at least three sponsoring partners</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> Giovanni: how long
is XG extended</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> Raphael: W3C extend
XG for a year</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> Jeff: workshop
before WG</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> +?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> ok</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> sorry i didnt
have that clear</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> i was proposing
ISWC then as a workshop venue</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> Paola: industrial
partners, difficult to get them together in one place</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> Raphael: circulate
charter during the writing</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Melli</cite>> one comment on
getting new industry sponsors - if possible I think we should
try and get them from the different aspects of media management
- media generation companies, media processing companies, and
so on. If such companies adopt these ideas, it will make it
easier for a company focused on media management like Oracle to
adopt these technologies.</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> Jeff: would like
that XG extension starts right now</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>ocelma</cite>> +1 in september</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>TobiasBuerger</cite>> +1 in
september</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>erik_chris_gaetan</cite>> +1 in
september</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> Several people
(seven) replied to the list that they prefer XG starts in
September</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chrisa</cite>> +1 in september</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Massimo</cite>> +1 in september</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> Giovanni: continue
now and finish, and then the workshop</p>
<p class='phone'>+1 in september</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Melli</cite>> I have a question</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> +1 in september</p>
<p class='phone'>yes melli</p>
<p class='phone'>i give you the ball</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> problem is the
workshop (official ones) are closed for ISWC, but we can
somehow do it anyway i think if we say "colocated" instead of
"ISWC workshop"</p>
<p class='phone'>we are not talking yet about that giovanni</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> Melli: not clear how
the group will go together if we stop it now and reopen in
September</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> Raphael: keep going
= using the mailing list and the wiki</p>
<p class='phone'>+1 with Paola's opinion ...</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> Paola: gap between
stop and restart give industrial members feeling that they can
change and propose something</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> ... make the people
feel they are there from the begining...</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> Raphael: most of
people agrre that next four months are busy period</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> Jeff: XG is not a
working group</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> ... just a
platform...</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> Raphael: several
proposal for new deliverables</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> Jeff: not enough
manpower for new contributions</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>TobiasBuerger</cite>> I personally
would find it very usefull if industry members would be
included in initial discussion in the new XG (to define new use
cases, deliverables, etc.). Thus supporting Paolas
argument.</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> Raphael: proposals
are for new charters</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>TobiasBuerger</cite>> +q About new
proposed deliverable "Addressing Concrete Industry Problems
with MMSEM"</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> Tobias: new
deliverable: addressing industry problems, how industry could
benefit from multimedia semantics</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> Erik: another
viewpoint: still keep on working, but on less strick base</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>alessio_</cite>> I agree to
re-start in september</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> ... lots of
obligations, not possible to have teleconf every two
weeks...</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Paola</cite>> sorry I have to
leave. Please count me in to help during the "gap" until
September</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>giovannit</cite>> what about a
workshop anyway?</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>TobiasBuerger</cite>> sorry I have
to leave, too. I would find it very useful if we produce a
position statement on adressing industry problems through mmsem
to get industry members on board - I would be available.</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> Raphael: workshop
not a deliveralbel, too strong a commitment</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> ... as a
deliverable, it is mandatory, all participants have to agrre on
it...</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> ... workshop is a
good idea, state it in in a less strict way...</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>erik_chris_gaetan</cite>> what
about a workshop in september? ... to introduce the new
members, charter & get the momentum back</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Melli</cite>> I had to leave the
phone, but I think if the visionary document that is proposed
to be part of the charter is a recommendation from the group
that will be good. Not sure whether an XG is empowered to do
that.</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> Raphael: in
september (new beginning) not a workshop but face to face
meeting</p>
<h3 id="item11">7. AOB</h3>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Massimo</cite>> We agree with the
line traced by Raphael. We would like to have only one telecon
per month and to have more written things (mailing-list, wiki,
).</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> Tobias: use the
"gap" to state the industry statement</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> ... startet to write
a paper about how to address industry programs...</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> ... can share it
with the group, send it to the list...</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> RESOLUTION:
(re)start a new activity in September</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>erik_chris_gaetan</cite>> +1 on
conclusion of Rafael</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>chrisa</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>zeljko</cite>> Raphael: things can
keep going on mailing list and wiki</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Massimo</cite>> +1</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>erik_chris_gaetan</cite>> will see
some of you soon ... WWW</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>ocelma</cite>> bye!</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>Massimo</cite>> bye !</p>
<p class='irc'><<cite>alessio_</cite>> bye all!</p>
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<h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Chris, Thierry
and Raphael to update the UC and the interop [recorded in
<a href="http://www.w3.org/2007/04/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action06">
http://www.w3.org/2007/04/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action06</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Giovanni to
explain in more detail parts of the music use [recorded in
<a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/04/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action03</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Jeff and Vasilis
to fill 3.1 and 3.2 -- drop [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/04/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Jeff and Vasilis
to fill 3.1 and 3.2 [recorded in [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/04/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action02</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Jeff to contact
W3C representative to discuss charter [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/04/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action08">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action08</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Jeff, Raphael and
Erik to ask written W3C about formal written [recorded in
<a href="http://www.w3.org/2007/04/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action09">
http://www.w3.org/2007/04/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action09</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Oscar to update a
possible scenario with classical music [recorded in <a href=
"http://www.w3.org/2007/04/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action04</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Oscar to update
the UC and the interop deliverable [recorded [recorded in
<a href="http://www.w3.org/2007/04/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action05">
http://www.w3.org/2007/04/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action05</a>]<br />
<strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> Oscar, Stamatia,
Raphael, Suzanne, Chrisa, Michael to give an [recorded in
<a href="http://www.w3.org/2007/04/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action07">
http://www.w3.org/2007/04/26-mmsem-minutes.html#action07</a>]<br />
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