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  <h1>- DRAFT -</h1>

  <h1>MAWG Vienna F2F day 3</h1>

  <h2>28 Apr 2010</h2>

  <p>See also: <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-irc">IRC log</a></p>

  <h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2>

  <div class="intro">
    <dl>
      <dt>Present</dt>

      <dd>daniel, wonsuk, tobias, florian, john, joakim, martin,
      werner, Felix(afternoon_partially_on_IRC)</dd>

      <dt>Regrets</dt>

      <dt>Chair</dt>

      <dd>daniel, joakim</dd>

      <dt>Scribe</dt>

      <dd>wbailer</dd>
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  <h2>Contents</h2>

  <ul>
    <li>
      <a href="#agenda">Topics</a>

      <ol>
        <li><a href="#item01">Test suite</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item02">review of changes to ontology
        document</a></li>

        <li><a href="#item03">review of changes to API
        document</a></li>
      </ol>
    </li>

    <li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
  </ul>
  <hr />

  <div class="meeting">
    <p class='phone'></p>

    <p class='phone'></p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>daniel</cite>&gt; get started the last
    day...editing times for both documents.</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>daniel</cite>&gt; no scriber this
    morning session</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>daniel</cite>&gt; chris: IRC will be
    mute, do you need to join the call bridge ?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>daniel</cite>&gt; chris: IRC will be
    mute, do you need to join the call bridge ?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chris</cite>&gt; hi daniel, I will
    only call in if absolutely necessary</p>

    <p class='phone'>chris, what is the status of your action items
    for the document?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chris</cite>&gt; wait, Im checking my
    APs</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chris</cite>&gt; actionitem 237 is
    done ( added lots of examples for the properties)</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chris</cite>&gt; actionitem 238 is
    also done I think, since this is related I assume</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chris</cite>&gt; ah no wait action 238
    is not done, I need to create an example with metadata in
    different languages</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>joakim</cite>&gt; Hi Chris, we will
    have an editing session until 11.00</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chris</cite>&gt; actionitem 244 is
    done</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chris</cite>&gt; actionitem 245 is
    done</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>joakim</cite>&gt; Ok thats great!</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chris</cite>&gt; so if I want to make
    additional changes to the document, where do I start from?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chris</cite>&gt; is there a new
    version somewhere?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>joakim</cite>&gt; How about writing
    webIdl example for the use cases we sent yesterday?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chris</cite>&gt; I will try (it wil be
    javascript examples by the way since webIDL is only for
    interfaces)</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>joakim</cite>&gt; ok :-)</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chris</cite>&gt; check that in the API
    document in section 3.8.1.1 there is still an old example that
    can be removed (the second one)</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chris</cite>&gt; the same for section
    3.10.2.1</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chris</cite>&gt; and 3.11.2.1</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chris</cite>&gt; and 3.12.1.1 and
    3.12.6.1 and 3.12.8.1</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>joakim</cite>&gt; and then there is
    the list of status codes sent by Florian (according to Robin
    #46)</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chris</cite>&gt; yes I leave it up to
    you guys to integrate this in the document</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chris</cite>&gt; I will focus on the
    examples</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>joakim</cite>&gt; Ok great. BTW your
    version of the API is the last one!</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>joakim</cite>&gt; When you are
    finished we can integrate changes from Felix in to your
    version</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chris</cite>&gt; hmm my version can
    not be the last one since there are action items for Wonsuk and
    Werner that have not been integrated (by me)</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chris</cite>&gt; converting the image
    to svg, changing the name of setMAResource, adding units for
    framesize</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>wonsuk</cite>&gt; Chris, in my case i
    didn't do that :)</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>wonsuk</cite>&gt; don't worry ;)</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>daniel</cite>&gt; action to werner is
    *unit*. he will do this laer, therefore your version can be the
    latest one...please go ahead with yours</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Sorry, couldn't
    find user - to</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>wonsuk</cite>&gt; chris, concerning
    the svg version of image, it's not working correctly in the
    Chrome and firefox. so i think that we need to apply this
    later.</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chris</cite>&gt; I just noticed that
    numTracks in the ontology document is updated to hold the
    number and the specification?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chris</cite>&gt; can somebody confirm
    this so that I can change it in the API?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>florian</cite>&gt; chris</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chris</cite>&gt; yes?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>florian</cite>&gt; yeah, thats
    right</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tobiasb</cite>&gt; <a href=
    "http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-1.0/mediaont-1.0.html">
    http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-1.0/mediaont-1.0.html</a></p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>tobiasb</cite>&gt; section 4.1.2</p>

    <p class='phone'>it's the style referenced in the mapping
    tables, eg. <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/WD/summary.html">
    http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/WD/summary.html</a></p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chris</cite>&gt; lunch time for me</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chris</cite>&gt; I have sent a mail
    with the updated API doc</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chris</cite>&gt; And another mail with
    proposal of example code for the use cases that Joakim
    described (and some open questions :))</p>

    <p class='phone'>we are going to start with the test suite now,
    if some of you want to phone in</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chris</cite>&gt; so action item 238 is
    done</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>martinh</cite>&gt; rdfs:range sec.3.1
    <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-schema/#ch_property">http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-schema/#ch_property</a></p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>martinh</cite>&gt; rdfs:range sec.3.1
    <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-schema/#ch_property">http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-schema/#ch_property</a></p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chris</cite>&gt; werner, I am assuming
    that you got mail of wednesday 14th concerning the test
    suites</p>

    <p class='phone'>yes, the one concerion action-227</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>martinh</cite>&gt; <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/TR/owl-ref/">http://www.w3.org/TR/owl-ref/</a>
    wbailer 4.1.3</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt; scribe: wbailer</p>

    <h3 id="item01">Test suite</h3><a name="action01" id=
    "action01"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> joakim to prepare a document
    containing the examples from thes introduction (to be used for
    test cases) [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-250
    - Prepare a document containing the examples from thes
    introduction (to be used for test cases) [on Joakim Söderberg -
    due 2010-05-05].</p>

    <p class='phone'>felix' proposal for test suite: <a href=
    "http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Feb/0065.html">
    http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Feb/0065.html</a></p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>tobias:</cite> thierry commented that
    this is not a test suite design</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>joakim:</cite> assume we have a test
    case, how could we implement it?<br />
    ... conclusion was to have a generic return format in test
    cases, but not for the input<br />
    ... no decision on intermediate format to decouple extraction
    from format and the actual api implementation</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>werner:</cite> could rdf/owl based
    representation be an intermedia representation?</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>joakim:</cite> could be considered as
    some kind of xml, without the need to specifically deal with
    rdf/owl in the implementation<br />
    ... scheduling: may will be taken by dealing with lc feedback,
    so we should try to get progress on the test suite before
    summer<br />
    ... is this feasible?<br />
    ... using the rdf format would be an advantage, as it's already
    there by then</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>daniel:</cite> there is no official
    document related to test suite<br />
    ... result of conformance testing is relevant</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>joakim:</cite> there is no document to
    be delivered, but there will be a web service</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>wonsuk:</cite> the example we look at
    from html 5 is just a page accessed with the different
    browsers<br />
    ... in our case there will be implementations in a browser or
    standalone application</p>

    <p class='phone'>(joakim draws example on flip chart)</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>daniel:</cite> have a way to select test
    cases for certain formats<br />
    ... certain implementers will only support certain formats</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>joakim:</cite> start with test cases for
    one property</p>

    <p class='phone'>we need several test per property</p><a name=
    "action02" id="action02"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> florian to supply jpeg images with
    exif [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action02</a>]</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-251
    - Supply jpeg images with exif [on Florian Stegmaier - due
    2010-05-05].</p><a name="action03" id="action03"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> tobias to provide mp3 file with id3
    info [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action03</a>]</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-252
    - Provide mp3 file with id3 info [on Tobias Bürger - due
    2010-05-05].</p><a name="action04" id="action04"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> werner to provide mpeg-7 describing a
    moview [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action04</a>]</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-253
    - Provide mpeg-7 describing a moview [on Werner Bailer - due
    2010-05-05].</p>

    <p class='phone'>(group photo!)</p>

    <h3 id="item02">review of changes to ontology document</h3>

    <p class='phone'>going through issues in excel sheet</p>

    <p class='phone'>3 is pending</p>

    <p class='phone'>10 is not done, but dfn should be ok</p>

    <p class='phone'>11: we have text, needs to be edited, john
    will do when going through document</p>

    <p class='phone'>14 to be done</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>daniel</cite>&gt; resume our session
    this afternoon. checking out the status of all comments</p>

    <p class='phone'>16 to be done</p>

    <p class='phone'>17 checked xml schema types with html 5, need
    to add text discussing our choice</p>

    <p class='phone'>22 formating to be done</p>

    <p class='phone'>25 to be done, felix to propose namespace
    uri</p><a name="action05" id="action05"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> felix to propose namespace URI for
    mawg [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action05</a>]</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-254
    - Propose namespace URI for mawg [on Felix Sasaki - due
    2010-05-05].</p><a name="action06" id="action06"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> joakim to draft text concerning mawg
    namespace and ma prefix [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action06">http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action06</a>]</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-255
    - Draft text concerning mawg namespace and ma prefix [on Joakim
    Söderberg - due 2010-05-05].</p>

    <p class='phone'>26: example provided, wonsuk to insert</p>

    <p class='phone'>34 to be decided</p>

    <p class='phone'>we will use mediaType, wonsuk to edit</p>

    <p class='phone'>43 to be done by john</p>

    <p class='phone'>there is a new version of the ontology doc
    online, and we still have a list of todos (wonsuk is adding
    them to the wiki)</p>

    <p class='phone'>vote for LC will be on the condition that the
    issues in this list are done</p>

    <p class='phone'>issues for LC are collected at <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/index.php?title=Issues_for_LC">
    http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/index.php?title=Issues_for_LC</a></p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>fsasaki</cite>&gt; wbailer, all: I
    have sent a mail to Joakim, see also <a href=
    "http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-archive/2010Apr/0134.html">
    http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-archive/2010Apr/0134.html</a>
    - that closes my action item ACTION-254</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>daniel</cite>&gt; straw poll here:
    what's your preference ? ma:compression vs ma:coding vs
    ma:encoding....Please select only one now</p>

    <h3 id="item03">review of changes to API document</h3>

    <p class='phone'>going through the issues in the excel file
    (<a href=
    "https://www.dimis.fim.uni-passau.de/~stegmai/API_issues.xlsx)">https://www.dimis.fim.uni-passau.de/~stegmai/API_issues.xlsx)</a></p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chpoppe</cite>&gt; Robin's comment was
    based on an earlier version of the API-document. IMO the new
    version is more clear on this aspect</p>

    <p class='phone'>issue 7 is considered resolved</p>

    <p class='phone'>chris, issue 11: has the example been
    added?</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chpoppe</cite>&gt; yes, see section
    3.1.1</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>daniel</cite>&gt; ma:compression (0),
    ma:encoding (6), ma:coding (1) - What about you ? Tell me in
    IRC now</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chpoppe</cite>&gt; I have no strong
    opinion on this matter so I give a blanco vote :)</p>

    <p class='phone'>12 done</p>

    <p class='phone'>14 done, but some issues with embedded svg in
    some browsers</p>

    <p class='phone'>15 setContext to be changes to selectContext
    (to avoid confusion with a setter), to be done by chris</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chpoppe</cite>&gt; setContext is
    deprecated, it has been changed to setMAResource and according
    to comments it is now selectMAResource</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chpoppe</cite>&gt; see section
    3.1.1</p>

    <p class='phone'>15 is done</p>

    <p class='phone'>20 to be completed by florian</p>

    <p class='phone'>21 wonsuk to add same example as in ontology
    doc</p>

    <p class='phone'>25 to be done, drop sentence "possibilities
    are ..." (wonsuk)</p>

    <p class='phone'>30 to be done by wonsuk</p>

    <p class='phone'>36 to be done by joakim</p>

    <p class='phone'>38 to be done by wonsuk</p>

    <p class='phone'>39 changes to be checked between wonsuk and
    chris (inheritance from maobject)</p>

    <p class='phone'>40 same issue as with 39</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chpoppe</cite>&gt; hmm yes the format
    and samplingrate interface should inherit from the MAObject</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chpoppe</cite>&gt; as all other
    properties</p>

    <p class='phone'>46 list of error codes to be included by
    chris</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chpoppe</cite>&gt; wonsuk can you just
    change this? so "interface Samplingrate {" should be "interface
    Samplingrate: MAObject {"</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chpoppe</cite>&gt; hmm it's better
    that wonsuk includes these error codes</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chpoppe</cite>&gt; I have a meeting in
    15 minutes and don't have time to do this now</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>wonsuk</cite>&gt; chris, I will do the
    change the format and samplingrate...</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>wonsuk</cite>&gt; so please upload
    last version to the cvs repository before you go to the
    meeting.</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chpoppe</cite>&gt; I dont have a last
    version</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chpoppe</cite>&gt; my last version was
    that of noon</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>wonsuk</cite>&gt; ok. chris.
    thanks.</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chpoppe</cite>&gt; btw if you change
    the Format interface, also change it in appendix</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chpoppe</cite>&gt; appendix A</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>wonsuk</cite>&gt; ok.. i will do
    that</p>

    <p class='phone'>53 florian to provide an example (considering
    the recommendations from dominique, see <a href=
    "http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Apr/0134.html)">
    http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Apr/0134.html)</a></p>

    <p class='phone'>54 to be done by john</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>chpoppe</cite>&gt; I need to go, keep
    up the good work guys, and have a safe trip home!</p>

    <p class='phone'>vote for going to lc with ontology doc:</p>

    <p class='phone'>latest draft: <a href=
    "http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-1.0/mediaont-1.0.html">
    http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-1.0/mediaont-1.0.html</a></p>

    <p class='phone'>going to LC when issues at are resolved:
    <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/index.php?title=Issues_for_LC">
    http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/index.php?title=Issues_for_LC</a></p>

    <p class='phone'>do you agree to lc when the listed changes are
    applied to the current draft?</p>

    <p class='phone'>+1</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>daniel</cite>&gt; +1</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>martinh</cite>&gt; +1</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>wonsuk</cite>&gt; +1</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>fsasaki</cite>&gt; +1</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>joakim:</cite> +1</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>john:</cite> +1</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>wonsuk</cite>&gt; open issues of api
    doc: <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/Open_issues_of_API_doc_for_LC">
    http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/Open_issues_of_API_doc_for_LC</a></p>

    <p class='phone'>vote for going to lc with api doc:</p>

    <p class='phone'>going to LC when issues at are resolved:
    <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/index.php?title=Issues_for_LC">
    http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/index.php?title=Issues_for_LC</a>
    (see lower section for API doc issues)</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>fsasaki</cite>&gt; +1</p>

    <p class='phone'>latest draft of api doc: <a href=
    "http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-api-1.0/mediaont-api-1.0.html">
    http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-api-1.0/mediaont-api-1.0.html</a></p>

    <p class='phone'>do you agree to go to lc when the listed
    changes are applied to the current draft?</p>

    <p class='phone'>+1</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>daniel</cite>&gt; +1</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>wonsuk</cite>&gt; +1</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>martinh</cite>&gt; +1</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>fsasaki</cite>&gt; but *now*: 1+</p>

    <p class='phone'><cite>john:</cite> +1</p><a name="action07"
    id="action07"></a>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>scribe</cite>&gt;
    <strong>ACTION:</strong> wonsuk to integrate felix' "usage as a
    service" changes into the api doc [recorded in <a href=
    "http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action07</a>]</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>trackbot</cite>&gt; Created ACTION-256
    - Integrate felix' "usage as a service" changes into the api
    doc [on WonSuk Lee - due 2010-05-05].</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>daniel</cite>&gt; Joakim: +1</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>daniel</cite>&gt; voting results on
    both ontology and API docs: YES (7), NO (0)</p>

    <p class='irc'>&lt;<cite>joakim</cite>&gt; +1</p>

    <p class='phone'>[F2F closed]</p>
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  <h2><a name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
  Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> felix to propose
  namespace URI for mawg [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action05">http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action05</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> florian to supply
  jpeg images with exif [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action02">http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action02</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> joakim to draft
  text concerning mawg namespace and ma prefix [recorded in
  <a href="http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action06">
  http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action06</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> joakim to prepare
  a document containing the examples from thes introduction (to be
  used for test cases) [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action01">http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> tobias to provide
  mp3 file with id3 info [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action03">http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action03</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> werner to provide
  mpeg-7 describing a moview [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action04">http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action04</a>]<br />

  <strong>[NEW]</strong> <strong>ACTION:</strong> wonsuk to
  integrate felix' "usage as a service" changes into the api doc
  [recorded in <a href=
  "http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action07">http://www.w3.org/2010/04/28-mediaann-minutes.html#action07</a>]<br />

  &nbsp;<br />
  [End of minutes]<br />
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