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<body><p><a href="http://www.w3.org/"><img src="http://www.w3.org/Icons/w3c_home" alt="W3C"
border="0" height="48" width="72"/></a></p><h1>Media Annotations
WG</h1><h2>30 Sep 2008</h2><p><a
href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2008Sep/0081.html">
Agenda</a></p><p>See also: <a href="http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-mediaann-irc">IRC
log</a></p><h2><a name="attendees" id="attendees">Attendees</a></h2><div class="intro">
<dl>
<dt>Present</dt>
<dd>hui, raphael, frank, felix, Tobias, Davy, Dave, Erik, Vassilis, Joakim</dd>
<dt>Regrets</dt>
<dd>Daniel, Veronique</dd>
<dt>Chair</dt>
<dd>Felix</dd>
<dt>Scribe</dt>
<dd>hui</dd>
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</div><h2>Contents</h2><ul>
<li>
<a href="#agenda">Topics</a>
<ol>
<li><a href="#item02">review of agenda / minutes approval</a></li>
<li><a href="#item03">Selection of scribe for next meeting</a></li>
<li><a href="#item04">Future telephone conferences and f2f meetings / call time</a></li>
<li><a href="#item05">Action items</a></li>
<li><a href="#item06">Open issues</a></li>
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<li><a href="#ActionSummary">Summary of Action Items</a></li>
</ul><hr/><div class="meeting"><p class="irc"><<cite>raphael</cite>> Frank Nack and I will
share a phone</p><p class="irc"><<cite>frank</cite>> hi all</p><a name="action01"
id="action01"/>
<p class="irc"><<cite>fsasaki</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Felix to check WG participant mailing list subscription mechanism
to make sure that new participants are subscribed automatically [recorded in <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action01"
>http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action01</a>]</p><p class="irc"
><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-6 - Check WG participant mailing list
subscription mechanism to make sure that new participants are subscribed automatically [on
Felix Sasaki - due 2008-10-07].</p><p class="irc"><<cite>fsasaki</cite>>
<a
href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2008Sep/att-0081/00-part"
>
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2008Sep/att-0081/00-part</a></p><h3
id="item02">review of agenda / minutes approval</h3><p class="phone">something asking about
how to have the meeting</p><p class="phone"><cite>fsasaki:</cite> for today we will not
discuss much, but mainly go briefly through each issue and distribute action items. </p><p
class="irc"><<cite>fsasaki</cite>> previous minutes approved: <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2008/09/23-mediaann-minutes.html"
>http://www.w3.org/2008/09/23-mediaann-minutes.html</a></p><h3 id="item03">Selection of
scribe for next meeting</h3><p class="phone"><cite>fsasaki:</cite> next week will be Oct 7.
13 UTC</p><p class="irc"><<cite>wbailer</cite>> i volunteer for scribing next
week</p><p class="phone"><cite>fsasaki:</cite> that's great.</p><h3 id="item04">Future
telephone conferences and f2f meetings / call time</h3><p class="irc"
><<cite>fsasaki</cite>>
<a href="http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/42786/december-f2f/results"
>http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/42786/december-f2f/results</a></p><p class="phone"
><cite>fsasaki:</cite> Dec. 9,10 including joint meeting with Media Fragments WG</p><p
class="phone"><cite>raphael:</cite> media fragments WG decided last week, f2f meeting, on
Dec 9, 10</p><p class="irc"><<cite>dsinger</cite>> alas, dec 9,10 I will be at a
Blu-ray meeting (probably Japan)</p><h3 id="item05">Action items</h3><p class="irc"
><<cite>fsasaki</cite>>
<a href="http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/open">
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/open</a></p><p class="phone"
><cite>fsasaki:</cite> only one, new added. check the scribe and emails</p><p class="irc"
><<cite>raphael</cite>> wonders whether the group participants should create a wiki
account of if such an account has already been created?</p><p class="irc"
><<cite>fsasaki</cite>>
<a href="http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/Main_Page"
>http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/Main_Page</a></p><p class="phone"
><cite>fsasaki:</cite> you can edit wiki pages with your w3c login name / pw for this
working group</p><h3 id="item06">Open issues</h3><p class="phone">Joakim: many candidate use
cases relate to mobile aspects</p><a name="action02" id="action02"/>
<p class="irc"><<cite>Joakim</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Joakim to describe mobile aspects to use cases [recorded in <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action02"
>http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action02</a>]</p><p class="irc"
><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-7 - Describe mobile aspects to use cases [on
Joakim Söderberg - due 2008-10-07].</p><p class="irc"><<cite>fsasaki</cite>> 6054
Formats in scope / out of scope <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/42786/formats/results"
>http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/42786/formats/results</a></p><p class="phone"
><cite>fsasaki:</cite> did not have lots of responses on 6054<br/> ... delay discussion of
the questionnaire again</p><p class="irc"><<cite>frank</cite>> regarding the mobile
use case: is the aim to add automatically localisation data - as for images on flickr?</p><p
class="irc"><<cite>fsasaki</cite>> 6064 Use case "Services by using an unified media
annotation"</p><p class="phone"><cite>fsasaki:</cite> call for volunteer to provide more
information<br/> ... and put the information for the use case to wiki</p><p class="phone"
>Tobias: will put XG related use case into the WIki</p><a name="action03" id="action03"/>
<p class="irc"><<cite>fsasaki</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Tobias to put XG use cases into wiki [recorded in <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action03"
>http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action03</a>]</p><p class="irc"
><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-8 - Put XG use cases into wiki [on Tobias
Bürger - due 2008-10-07].</p><p class="phone">6065 Use case "Video on IPTV"</p><p
class="phone"><cite>fsasaki:</cite> any ideas about this one ?</p><p class="phone">wbailer
no use cases linked with video at all expect this one</p><p class="phone"
><cite>fsasaki:</cite> ask somebody to elaborate this use case</p><p class="phone">Joakim
will do this</p><a name="action04" id="action04"/>
<p class="irc"><<cite>Joakim</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Joakim elaborates on the video use case [recorded in <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action04"
>http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action04</a>]</p><p class="irc"
><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-9 - Elaborates on the video use case [on
Joakim Söderberg - due 2008-10-07].</p><p class="phone">6066 Requirement "Covering
variations across locales"</p><p class="phone"><cite>fsasaki:</cite> anybody want to work on
this requirement ?<br/> ... propose to drop it ?</p><p class="phone"><cite>Dave:</cite>
pretty tricky one, maybe leave it, will provide more information later</p><p class="phone"
>ACTION-9 Dave to elaborate 6066</p><a name="action05" id="action05"/>
<p class="irc"><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Dave to elaborate 6066 [recorded in <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action05"
>http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action05</a>]</p><p class="irc"
><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Sorry, couldn't find user - Dave</p><p class="irc"
><<cite>dsinger</cite>> dsinger</p><p class="phone">6067 Use case "Audiovisual
archive as a Cultural Heritage institution"</p><p class="phone"><cite>fsasaki:</cite> any
volunteers want to create information in wiki</p><p class="irc"><<cite>raphael</cite>>
Veronique is interested in this use case</p><a name="action06" id="action06"/>
<p class="irc"><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Vassilis to create information in wiki about 6067 [recorded in <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action06"
>http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action06</a>]</p><p class="irc"
><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Sorry, couldn't find user - ??</p><p class="phone"
><cite>Vassilis:</cite> what about split the use case into two</p><p class="phone"
><cite>werner:</cite> application / technique points of view, interoperate problem, search
problem</p><p class="phone"><cite>Vassilis:</cite> very important issue, not only ontology,
but more to be covered</p><p class="irc"><<cite>frank</cite>> if the search problem is
seperated - what is the difference to 6083</p><p class="phone"><cite>fsasaki:</cite> we have
to see the result to seperate 6067</p><p class="phone">6068 Use case "Metadata to help
promoting safe environments"</p><p class="phone"><cite>fsasaki:</cite> ask for volunteer to
work on this oen</p><p class="irc"><<cite>raphael</cite>> this use case comes from the
POWDER WG</p><p class="irc"><<cite>raphael</cite>> ... and Phil Archher</p><p
class="phone"><cite>fsasaki:</cite> more discussions were required</p><p class="phone">6069
Use case "Multi media and semantic web technologies"</p><p class="phone"
><cite>fsasaki:</cite> too general, will be dropped</p><p class="irc"
><<cite>raphael</cite>> agree to drop</p><p class="phone">6077 Use case "Photo"</p><p
class="phone"><cite>fsasaki:</cite> call for volunteers to work on it</p><p class="phone"
><cite>Felix:</cite> look for volunteers 6083</p><p class="phone"><cite>Vassilis:</cite>
it's too specific to semantic technology, also to multi media</p><p class="phone">6078 Use
case "Music"</p><p class="phone"><cite>fsasaki:</cite> use wiki to write is recommend</p><p
class="phone">6085 Use case "multimedia sharing"</p><p class="phone"><cite>fsasaki:</cite>
call for volunteers to produce material<br/> ... volunteers for 6086, 6109 ?</p><p
class="irc"><<cite>frank</cite>> happy to fill in 6084 and 6086</p><a name="action07"
id="action07"/>
<p class="irc"><<cite>scribe</cite>>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> frank will work on 6084 and 6086 [recorded in <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action07"
>http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action07</a>]</p><p class="irc"
><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Created ACTION-10 - Will work on 6084 and 6086 [on Frank
Nack - due 2008-10-07].</p><p class="phone">6113 Requirement "Allowing for a simple API,
abstraction in the ontology, and a clear mediation inbetween"</p><p class="irc"
><<cite>dsinger</cite>> I like the way this is phrased! (Maybe it was from my
mail)</p><p class="phone"><cite>fsasaki:</cite> explaining 6113 , question is how to make it
happen</p><p class="phone">ACTION dsinger will work more on this issue 6113</p><p
class="irc"><<cite>trackbot</cite>> Sorry, couldn't find user - dsinger</p><p
class="phone">Raphael: it would be better have a idea what does it mean to provide this
API</p><p class="phone">Raphael: better to postpone this issue when ontology is ready</p><p
class="phone"><cite>fsasaki:</cite> if we postpone work on the API, we will be very slow,
and the relation between the API and the ontology will become unclear & hard to create
later. Maybe we should work on both of them at the same time.<br/> ... most of people here
are interested on ontology, so I am also looking for people to working on this API</p><p
class="phone">6126 Machine readable license data</p><p class="phone"><cite>fsasaki:</cite>
already discussed a lot in the mail list, any feeling whether we need to specify ontology on
this kind of data</p><p class="phone"><cite>rapheal:</cite> IPTC, they did some work on it,
the result is to put this part as a link to other vocabularies, such as MPEG-21,</p><p
class="irc"><<cite>frank</cite>> I agree with Raphael</p><p class="irc"
><<cite>davy</cite>> +1</p><p class="irc"><<cite>wbailer</cite>> +1</p><p
class="irc"><<cite>vassilis</cite>> +1</p><p class="phone"><cite>fsasaki:</cite> it's
a good approach<br/> ... it's a good approach<br/> ... thanks for all,</p><p class="irc"
><<cite>fsasaki</cite>> thanks for scribing, hui</p></div><h2><a
name="ActionSummary" id="ActionSummary">Summary of Action
Items</a></h2><!-- Action Items -->
<strong>[NEW]</strong>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Vassilis to create information in wiki about 6067 [recorded in <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action06"
>http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action06</a>]<br/>
<strong>[NEW]</strong>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Dave to elaborate 6066 [recorded in <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action05"
>http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action05</a>] <br/><strong>[NEW]</strong>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Dave to work on 6113<br/>
<strong>[NEW]</strong>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Felix to check WG participant mailing list subscription mechanism to
make sure that new participants are subscribed automatically [recorded in <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action01"
>http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action01</a>]<br/>
<strong>[NEW]</strong>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> frank will work on 6084 and 6086 [recorded in <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action07"
>http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action07</a>]<br/>
<strong>[NEW]</strong>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Joakim elaborates on the video use case [recorded in <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action04"
>http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action04</a>]<br/>
<strong>[NEW]</strong>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Joakim to describe mobile aspects to use cases [recorded in <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action02"
>http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action02</a>]<br/>
<strong>[NEW]</strong>
<strong>ACTION:</strong> Tobias to put XG use cases into wiki [recorded in <a
href="http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action03"
>http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-mediaann-minutes.html#action03</a>]<br/> <br/> [End of
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